Please delete

[gpools]

loser you are loser Rynomster  not ask you buy cinni.  gameofcoin.

[sdersdf2]

Can not we try to report the crime? It now seems that cinnicoin conscious people have scammed.

We can report it online, let the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) investigate it.

Government overregulation and interference in the economy has basically destroyed growth and innovation across the western world - crypto is one of the few free markets left. We should all try to keep it that way.

We're all responsible for the decisions we make or don't make in this ecosystem. What happened is not a crime requiring regulators. I think it's enough to simply post the facts of what happened (or rather, what didn't happen) so that people can make better informed decisions in the future going forward. With POD and other developments sure to come, the ecosystem will hopefully get a lot healthier and transparent, and better able to regulate itself.

The people looking to regulation now are forgetting one of the basic principles of crypto - that free informed people, eventually, are capable of self-regulating themselves for mutual benefit, without corrupt bureaucrats and governments bringing their own corruption into the mix. Well, at least, here's hoping.

[sdersdf2]

For Battbot I can't tell at all, but for Ryno my own synthesis is that he didn't try to scam anyone. I'll keep it simple by saying that, cause I don't have the time nor the energy to write a long speech about how and why i made that conclusion.

Of course, you are free to have your opinion on that one, but it becomes a bit of problem if your action have consequences for others. I mean... As long as you can't show clearly with perfect proofs that someone is a scammer, i'd not post things that can hurt his work, or reputation because he might be not guilty of what you think he's guilty for.

I posted the facts and leave it to people to interpret them for themselves. Also, this is an open, unmoderated, uncensored thread - unlike other threads. People are free to contest what I've written, although most of it is copy-paste of the facts. Interesting that no one's come to battbot's defense, except maybe Cinnicoin dev.

[HappyHogan]

Can not we try to report the crime? It now seems that cinnicoin conscious people have scammed.

We can report it online, let the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) investigate it.

Government overregulation and interference in the economy has basically destroyed growth and innovation across the western world - crypto is one of the few free markets left. We should all try to keep it that way.

We're all responsible for the decisions we make or don't make in this ecosystem. What happened is not a crime requiring regulators. I think it's enough to simply post the facts of what happened (or rather, what didn't happen) so that people can make better informed decisions in the future going forward. With POD and other developments sure to come, the ecosystem will hopefully get a lot healthier and transparent, and better able to regulate itself.

The people looking to regulation now are forgetting one of the basic principles of crypto - that free informed people, eventually, are capable of self-regulating themselves for mutual benefit, with corrupt bureaucrats and governments bringing their own corruption into the mix. Well, at least, here's hoping.

Sorry, but I'm serious. I understand the government's story. But that is not a license for scammers. Hackers often steal bitcoin of people. Would you say that someone should do not make a report of it?

I never complained about my losses in other currencies. This is indeed a risk.

but cinnicoin deliberately people scammed.

so it seems anyway.

Unfortunately, I'm almost certain governments are going to start interfering with markets that have practices such as this. It's already happening to a certain degree. I have no doubt that a lot of the scammers in crypto are going to get away with it, I also have no doubt that some are going to land in hot water.

[sdersdf2]

Can not we try to report the crime? It now seems that cinnicoin conscious people have scammed.

We can report it online, let the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) investigate it.

Government overregulation and interference in the economy has basically destroyed growth and innovation across the western world - crypto is one of the few free markets left. We should all try to keep it that way.

We're all responsible for the decisions we make or don't make in this ecosystem. What happened is not a crime requiring regulators. I think it's enough to simply post the facts of what happened (or rather, what didn't happen) so that people can make better informed decisions in the future going forward. With POD and other developments sure to come, the ecosystem will hopefully get a lot healthier and transparent, and better able to regulate itself.

The people looking to regulation now are forgetting one of the basic principles of crypto - that free informed people, eventually, are capable of self-regulating themselves for mutual benefit, with corrupt bureaucrats and governments bringing their own corruption into the mix. Well, at least, here's hoping.

Sorry, but I'm serious. I understand the government's story. But that is not a license for scammers. Hackers often steal bitcoin of people. Would you say that someone should do not make a report of it?

I never complained about my losses in other currencies. This is indeed a risk.

but cinnicoin deliberately people scammed.

so it seems anyway.

As far as the specifics of what Cinnicoin did or didn't do - I certainly think he's a joke and that he has mismanaged Cinnicoin into the ground. I still think Cinni can be rebuilt if he's kicked out. Going beyond that doesn't really help the situation.

As far as the separate example of hackers, obviously that's a crime, but that's not what Cinnicoin did. I think the biggest problem with Cinnicoin is that he iis passive (or pretends to be) and does nothing. I just wish he'd hand over the thread to someone who actually does something for Cinni.

On the larger issue of government interference - beware unintended consequences. I think what many of us have learned, and what brought many of us to crypto, is the awareness that many governments, regulators and bureaucrats often are not serving the public interest - they are often serving their own interests. Government interference is a Trojan Horse that turned what was once America, a constitutional republic, into a socialist cesspool of influence peddling and power concentrated among elites in Washington that would have made Louis XIV's Versailles blush. And it's turned much of Western Europe into a museum for Chinese tourists.

[gorgo]

If you really want to take over cinni and he is not willing to do so you can do it anyway
The only thing you really need is the community behind you

1. gather the community
2. create a new thread
3. fork the cinnicoin repository
4. contact exchanges
5. proceed cinnicoin development with your new team

it would be easier if cinnicoindev agrees to hand over the thread and github repo but since it is all open source there are ways around that

[sdersdf2]

If you really want to take over cinni and he is not willing to do so you can do it anyway
The only thing you really need is the community behind you

1. gather the community
2. create a new thread
3. fork the cinnicoin repository
4. contact exchanges
5. proceed cinnicoin development with your new team

it would be easier if cinnicoindev agrees to hand over the thread and github repo but since it is all open source there are ways around that

As I've written on the CINNI thread, the concern, from a marketing perspective, is that, at least for a while, people searching on Google or Bing for CINNI will end up on a thread controlled (passively) by Cinnicoin "dev". No one's willing to commit any time, energy or resources to any development/marketing rescue plan that could conceivably at some point in time -- some critical point in time -- be held hostage by Cinnicoin "dev"'s absence, incompetence and/or passivity.

btw, he's been promising that his "plan" is coming "soon" for weeks, and who's to say, even if such a plan exists that it wouldn't conflict with any other plan. Just too much risk to try something new unless he's out and there's a responsive leadership team that coordinates and speaks with one voice.

[Schild_]

For Battbot I can't tell at all, but for Ryno my own synthesis is that he didn't try to scam anyone. I'll keep it simple by saying that, cause I don't have the time nor the energy to write a long speech about how and why i made that conclusion.

Of course, you are free to have your opinion on that one, but it becomes a bit of problem if your action have consequences for others. I mean... As long as you can't show clearly with perfect proofs that someone is a scammer, i'd not post things that can hurt his work, or reputation because he might be not guilty of what you think he's guilty for.

I posted the facts and leave it to people to interpret them for themselves. Also, this is an open, unmoderated, uncensored thread - unlike other threads. People are free to contest what I've written, although most of it is copy-paste of the facts. Interesting that no one's come to battbot's defense, except maybe Cinnicoin dev.

They are not FACTS. Since when what people write on forum become 100% indiscutable facts? Why are you interpreting everything literal?  The forum is not the holly bible.

Things have to be replaced in their own context. When you quote me, you are not being objective, you use it as a proof to illustrate your theory.
I can tell you your interpretations of my OWN quote, are absolutely partial, plus you were not in my mind nor shared my experience, the reality you imagine is not the one that i experienced...

When i said Ryno refused to post, you cannot consider it as Ryno refused to post because he didn't care and was creating his new way to rip us off or whatever you might imagine. The only "fact" that seems objective in this story is that he didn't post, and that's it, but you cannot claim you know why he didn't post as a fact.


I'd tend to say if you guys wants to discuss all of this, just go on SDC IRC, find Rynomster and debate.

[HEISENAIR]

Schild, it's obvious you get on well with Ryonmaster and feel obligated to defend him. I have no doubt you believe him and he has done no wrong.

I wholeheartedly disagree though. Ryonmaster had family issues at a very very coincidental time. Complete lie IMO. But, again, just my opinion.

Probably better to let people speak for themselves Schild. It looks a bit weird tbh the way you are his spokesperson.

[battbot]

Okay, I just noticed this thread this morning. Here are my initial thoughts.

I'm not a coder so I was not directly involved in any of the actual coding development. But for every post I made regarding the anonymous transfer feature for Cinni, I was under the impression that it was in progress, and had no reason to think otherwise.  

As for the reason I stepped down as community manager, I had a summer internship that obligated 80 hour work weeks from June to August. I am just returning home from that internship now. I will return on Thursday, after which I would be happy to discuss any and all clarifying questions on IRC to the best of my knowledge.

Again, I joined cinni project as a volunteer community manager after the project was about 1-2 weeks old. This much should be evident if you go digging through the old thread. I was not involved in the original creation of this coin. Neither did I know cinnidev or rynomster prior to the creation of cinni, but only afterwards.

 I don't know what to say regarding the conspiracy theories other than that they are simply not true. I would be happy to provide a log of every single private message between cinnicoin dev and myself via bitcointalk when I return on Thursday - from reading this, it should become clear that i was not collaborative with him with any ill intention, and that I did not know him prior to cinnicoin.

I have sent cinnidev in the first weeks of cinni being created, numerous PMs trying to get him to publicly reveal his identity to me and the community for the good of the coins image - why would I do this if I was already conspiring with him? I have also sent cinnidev numerous PMs to get him to communicate with the team via irc, email, etc, but he would only communicate via bct.  Communication with him was infuriating, to say the least. Anyways, I will post this if desired.

I would ask that we be respectful to each other, if possible, and I apologize for any confusion on my part.

[Schild_]

Schild, it's obvious you get on well with Ryonmaster and feel obligated to defend him. I have no doubt you believe him and he has done no wrong.

I wholeheartedly disagree though. Ryonmaster had family issues at a very very coincidental time. Complete lie IMO. But, again, just my opinion.

Probably better to let people speak for themselves Schild. It looks a bit weird tbh the way you are his spokesperson.

I've let people fight each other during a long time without saying a word. I started posting when tevayo first posted about me, and shorty after this thread was created. I didn't post because i felt obligated to defend him,  I posted because this was not fair and this theory, regarding the elements I know isn't true, not to mention i have a right to give precision, because I got quoted to illustrate something.

EDIT: The only thing I see is that we are losing our time posting in here.  As you said  "I have no doubt you believe him and he has done no wrong" .

I'm also sure you believe he scammed you and nothing can change that apparently.

Now regarding all these elements, people will judge by themselves and think whatever they want about this situation. At least i made my contribution.

Regards...

[Schild_]

Okay, I just noticed this thread this morning. Here are my initial thoughts.

I'm not a coder so I was not directly involved in any of the actual coding development. But for every post I made regarding the anonymous transfer feature for Cinni, I was under the impression that it was in progress, and had no reason to think otherwise.  

As for the reason I stepped down as community manager, I had a summer internship that obligated 80 hour work weeks from June to August. I am just returning home from that internship now. I will return on Thursday, after which I would be happy to discuss any and all clarifying questions on IRC to the best of my knowledge.

Again, I joined cinni project as a volunteer community manager after the project was about 1-2 weeks old. This much should be evident if you go digging through the old thread. I was not involved in the original creation of this coin. Neither did I know cinnidev or rynomster prior to the creation of cinni, but only afterwards.

 I don't know what to say regarding the conspiracy theories other than that they are simply not true. I would be happy to provide a log of every single private message between cinnicoin dev and myself via bitcointalk when I return on Thursday - from reading this, it should become clear that i was not collaborative with him with any ill intention, and that I did not know him prior to cinnicoin.

I have sent cinnidev in the first weeks of cinni being created, numerous PMs trying to get him to publicly reveal his identity to me and the community for the good of the coins image - why would I do this if I was already conspiring with him? I have also sent cinnidev numerous PMs to get him to communicate with the team via irc, email, etc, but he would only communicate via bct.  Communication with him was infuriating, to say the least. Anyways, I will post this if desired.

I would ask that we be respectful to each other, if possible, and I apologize for any confusion on my part.

would like to see these PM from Cinnidev.

Lol. No need to see them, here everybody will believe batbott on that point. We all experienced that.

[sdersdf2]

Can not we try to report the crime? It now seems that cinnicoin conscious people have scammed.

We can report it online, let the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) investigate it.

Government overregulation and interference in the economy has basically destroyed growth and innovation across the western world - crypto is one of the few free markets left. We should all try to keep it that way.

We're all responsible for the decisions we make or don't make in this ecosystem. What happened is not a crime requiring regulators. I think it's enough to simply post the facts of what happened (or rather, what didn't happen) so that people can make better informed decisions in the future going forward. With POD and other developments sure to come, the ecosystem will hopefully get a lot healthier and transparent, and better able to regulate itself.

The people looking to regulation now are forgetting one of the basic principles of crypto - that free informed people, eventually, are capable of self-regulating themselves for mutual benefit, with corrupt bureaucrats and governments bringing their own corruption into the mix. Well, at least, here's hoping.

Sorry, but I'm serious. I understand the government's story. But that is not a license for scammers. Hackers often steal bitcoin of people. Would you say that someone should do not make a report of it?

I never complained about my losses in other currencies. This is indeed a risk.

but cinnicoin deliberately people scammed.

so it seems anyway.

Unfortunately, I'm almost certain governments are going to start interfering with markets that have practices such as this. It's already happening to a certain degree. I have no doubt that a lot of the scammers in crypto are going to get away with it, I also have no doubt that some are going to land in hot water.

You may be right - it will be an absolute tragedy if the short-sightedness of scammer devs and the short sightedness of buyers calling for all the wrong-headed regulation and government interference and corruption that has distorted and ruined commerce across the West bring that corruption here. Absolutely tragic. I am optimistic that, in fits and starts, we're evolving toward something better and that higher standards (cryptoasian, POD, etc.) and more p2p innovation (Ethereum, blockchain 2.0, decentralised autonomous organisations, smart contracts) will head this off before it's too late.

[sdersdf2]

For Battbot I can't tell at all, but for Ryno my own synthesis is that he didn't try to scam anyone. I'll keep it simple by saying that, cause I don't have the time nor the energy to write a long speech about how and why i made that conclusion.

Of course, you are free to have your opinion on that one, but it becomes a bit of problem if your action have consequences for others. I mean... As long as you can't show clearly with perfect proofs that someone is a scammer, i'd not post things that can hurt his work, or reputation because he might be not guilty of what you think he's guilty for.

I posted the facts and leave it to people to interpret them for themselves. Also, this is an open, unmoderated, uncensored thread - unlike other threads. People are free to contest what I've written, although most of it is copy-paste of the facts. Interesting that no one's come to battbot's defense, except maybe Cinnicoin dev.

They are not FACTS. Since when what people write on forum become 100% indiscutable facts? Why are you interpreting everything literal?  The forum is not the holly bible.

Things have to be replaced in their own context. When you quote me, you are not being objective, you use it as a proof to illustrate your theory.
I can tell you your interpretations of my OWN quote, are absolutely partial, plus you were not in my mind nor shared my experience, the reality you imagine is not the one that i experienced...

When i said Ryno refused to post, you cannot consider it as Ryno refused to post because he didn't care and was creating his new way to rip us off or whatever you might imagine. The only "fact" that seems objective in this story is that he didn't post, and that's it, but you cannot claim you know why he didn't post as a fact.


I'd tend to say if you guys wants to discuss all of this, just go on SDC IRC, find Rynomster and debate.

Respectfully, Schild_, all of these quotes are facts directly copied from the thread and any one is welcome to visit CINNI's thread to see if my summary takes anything out of context or out of chronological order. It doesn't. I don't say anything about Ryno's refusal to post, I just copied the comments from him, you and battbot.

[sdersdf2]

Okay, I just noticed this thread this morning. Here are my initial thoughts.

I'm not a coder so I was not directly involved in any of the actual coding development. But for every post I made regarding the anonymous transfer feature for Cinni, I was under the impression that it was in progress, and had no reason to think otherwise.  

As for the reason I stepped down as community manager, I had a summer internship that obligated 80 hour work weeks from June to August. I am just returning home from that internship now. I will return on Thursday, after which I would be happy to discuss any and all clarifying questions on IRC to the best of my knowledge.

Again, I joined cinni project as a volunteer community manager after the project was about 1-2 weeks old. This much should be evident if you go digging through the old thread. I was not involved in the original creation of this coin. Neither did I know cinnidev or rynomster prior to the creation of cinni, but only afterwards.

 I don't know what to say regarding the conspiracy theories other than that they are simply not true. I would be happy to provide a log of every single private message between cinnicoin dev and myself via bitcointalk when I return on Thursday - from reading this, it should become clear that i was not collaborative with him with any ill intention, and that I did not know him prior to cinnicoin.

I have sent cinnidev in the first weeks of cinni being created, numerous PMs trying to get him to publicly reveal his identity to me and the community for the good of the coins image - why would I do this if I was already conspiring with him? I have also sent cinnidev numerous PMs to get him to communicate with the team via irc, email, etc, but he would only communicate via bct.  Communication with him was infuriating, to say the least. Anyways, I will post this if desired.

I would ask that we be respectful to each other, if possible, and I apologize for any confusion on my part.

Sorry, but the timing is all really suspect - and, yes, that's my interpretation. Also, and this isn't even touched upon in the summary, the reality is that you became disengaged from CINNI before your made your absence official. Again, I dont fault anyone for pursuing their own interests and other coins - heck, I have, who wouldn't. I just feel the CINNI community was hyper-sold a bill of goods about this anon tech before key devs all left around the same time, leaving CINNI an empty shell. The chronology and quotes are all there for people to review, challenge and "interpret" for themselves.

Feel free to add anything independently verifiable to the record of what happened, because the facts I know that were public paint a pretty clear picture to me.

[sdersdf2]

Okay, I just noticed this thread this morning. Here are my initial thoughts.

I'm not a coder so I was not directly involved in any of the actual coding development. But for every post I made regarding the anonymous transfer feature for Cinni, I was under the impression that it was in progress, and had no reason to think otherwise.  

As for the reason I stepped down as community manager, I had a summer internship that obligated 80 hour work weeks from June to August. I am just returning home from that internship now. I will return on Thursday, after which I would be happy to discuss any and all clarifying questions on IRC to the best of my knowledge.

Again, I joined cinni project as a volunteer community manager after the project was about 1-2 weeks old. This much should be evident if you go digging through the old thread. I was not involved in the original creation of this coin. Neither did I know cinnidev or rynomster prior to the creation of cinni, but only afterwards.

 I don't know what to say regarding the conspiracy theories other than that they are simply not true. I would be happy to provide a log of every single private message between cinnicoin dev and myself via bitcointalk when I return on Thursday - from reading this, it should become clear that i was not collaborative with him with any ill intention, and that I did not know him prior to cinnicoin.

I have sent cinnidev in the first weeks of cinni being created, numerous PMs trying to get him to publicly reveal his identity to me and the community for the good of the coins image - why would I do this if I was already conspiring with him? I have also sent cinnidev numerous PMs to get him to communicate with the team via irc, email, etc, but he would only communicate via bct.  Communication with him was infuriating, to say the least. Anyways, I will post this if desired.

I would ask that we be respectful to each other, if possible, and I apologize for any confusion on my part.

would like to see these PM from Cinnidev.

You know, amid all this, sometimes I forget Cinnidev exists.

[sdersdf2]

Schild, it's obvious you get on well with Ryonmaster and feel obligated to defend him. I have no doubt you believe him and he has done no wrong.

I wholeheartedly disagree though. Ryonmaster had family issues at a very very coincidental time. Complete lie IMO. But, again, just my opinion.

Probably better to let people speak for themselves Schild. It looks a bit weird tbh the way you are his spokesperson.

I've let people fight each other during a long time without saying a word. I started posting when tevayo first posted about me, and shorty after this thread was created. I didn't post because i felt obligated to defend him,  I posted because this was not fair and this theory, regarding the elements I know isn't true, not to mention i have a right to give precision, because I got quoted to illustrate something.

EDIT: The only thing I see is that we are losing our time posting in here.  As you said  "I have no doubt you believe him and he has done no wrong" .

I'm also sure you believe he scammed you and nothing can change that apparently.

Now regarding all these elements, people will judge by themselves and think whatever they want about this situation. At least i made my contribution.

Regards...

Agree about the time spent. Fair enough, but I will respond where a response is merited. This CINNI history was just a bad memory for me, until I saw battbot's comments, which to me required a response.

[battbot]

Okay, I just noticed this thread this morning. Here are my initial thoughts.

I'm not a coder so I was not directly involved in any of the actual coding development. But for every post I made regarding the anonymous transfer feature for Cinni, I was under the impression that it was in progress, and had no reason to think otherwise.  

As for the reason I stepped down as community manager, I had a summer internship that obligated 80 hour work weeks from June to August. I am just returning home from that internship now. I will return on Thursday, after which I would be happy to discuss any and all clarifying questions on IRC to the best of my knowledge.

Again, I joined cinni project as a volunteer community manager after the project was about 1-2 weeks old. This much should be evident if you go digging through the old thread. I was not involved in the original creation of this coin. Neither did I know cinnidev or rynomster prior to the creation of cinni, but only afterwards.

 I don't know what to say regarding the conspiracy theories other than that they are simply not true. I would be happy to provide a log of every single private message between cinnicoin dev and myself via bitcointalk when I return on Thursday - from reading this, it should become clear that i was not collaborative with him with any ill intention, and that I did not know him prior to cinnicoin.

I have sent cinnidev in the first weeks of cinni being created, numerous PMs trying to get him to publicly reveal his identity to me and the community for the good of the coins image - why would I do this if I was already conspiring with him? I have also sent cinnidev numerous PMs to get him to communicate with the team via irc, email, etc, but he would only communicate via bct.  Communication with him was infuriating, to say the least. Anyways, I will post this if desired.

I would ask that we be respectful to each other, if possible, and I apologize for any confusion on my part.

Sorry, but the timing is all really suspect - and, yes, that's my interpretation. Also, and this isn't even touched upon in the summary, the reality is that you became disengaged from CINNI before your made your absence official. Again, I dont fault anyone for pursuing their own interests and other coins - heck, I have, who wouldn't. I just feel the CINNI community was hyper-sold a bill of goods about this anon tech before key devs all left around the same time, leaving CINNI an empty shell. The chronology and quotes are all there for people to review, challenge and "interpret" for themselves.

Feel free to add anything independently verifiable to the record of what happened, because the facts I know that were public paint a pretty clear picture to me.

They also paint a clear picture of a community manager who was working voluntarily to try to help a coin, and made announcements of features that, at the time, he believed were truly in development.

Yes, I went silent and stepped down as comm mgr, mainly due to my internship obligations. I did at some point come to the understanding that no anon transfers would be released for Cinni, however this was after all announcements I made. Perhaps I should have been the one to break the bad news, but I decided to let rynomster open that can of worms as he saw best, it was his decision, after all. Ultimately, I had no control over his continued development for Cinni, but neither was he obligated. And cinnidev did not make things easier, though he seemed sincere enough, his poor communication was disabling, I can't blame rynomster for leaving one bit.

[sdersdf2]

Okay, I just noticed this thread this morning. Here are my initial thoughts.

I'm not a coder so I was not directly involved in any of the actual coding development. But for every post I made regarding the anonymous transfer feature for Cinni, I was under the impression that it was in progress, and had no reason to think otherwise.  

As for the reason I stepped down as community manager, I had a summer internship that obligated 80 hour work weeks from June to August. I am just returning home from that internship now. I will return on Thursday, after which I would be happy to discuss any and all clarifying questions on IRC to the best of my knowledge.

Again, I joined cinni project as a volunteer community manager after the project was about 1-2 weeks old. This much should be evident if you go digging through the old thread. I was not involved in the original creation of this coin. Neither did I know cinnidev or rynomster prior to the creation of cinni, but only afterwards.

 I don't know what to say regarding the conspiracy theories other than that they are simply not true. I would be happy to provide a log of every single private message between cinnicoin dev and myself via bitcointalk when I return on Thursday - from reading this, it should become clear that i was not collaborative with him with any ill intention, and that I did not know him prior to cinnicoin.

I have sent cinnidev in the first weeks of cinni being created, numerous PMs trying to get him to publicly reveal his identity to me and the community for the good of the coins image - why would I do this if I was already conspiring with him? I have also sent cinnidev numerous PMs to get him to communicate with the team via irc, email, etc, but he would only communicate via bct.  Communication with him was infuriating, to say the least. Anyways, I will post this if desired.

I would ask that we be respectful to each other, if possible, and I apologize for any confusion on my part.

Sorry, but the timing is all really suspect - and, yes, that's my interpretation. Also, and this isn't even touched upon in the summary, the reality is that you became disengaged from CINNI before your made your absence official. Again, I dont fault anyone for pursuing their own interests and other coins - heck, I have, who wouldn't. I just feel the CINNI community was hyper-sold a bill of goods about this anon tech before key devs all left around the same time, leaving CINNI an empty shell. The chronology and quotes are all there for people to review, challenge and "interpret" for themselves.

Feel free to add anything independently verifiable to the record of what happened, because the facts I know that were public paint a pretty clear picture to me.

They also paint a clear picture of a community manager who was working voluntarily to try to help a coin, and made announcements of features that, at the time, he believed were truly in development.

Yes, I went silent and stepped down as comm mgr, mainly due to my internship obligations. I did at some point come to the understanding that no anon transfers would be released for Cinni, however this was after all announcements I made. Perhaps I should have been the one to break the bad news, but I decided to let rynomster open that can of worms as he saw best, it was his decision, after all. Ultimately, I had no control over his continued development for Cinni, but neither was he obligated. And cinnidev did not make things easier, though he seemed sincere enough, his poor communication was disabling, I can't blame rynomster for leaving one bit.

Well, that's one thing we agree on - Cinnidev is a joke.

[battbot]

Would it help if I told you that my internship was with a Presbyterian Church and I'm currently a student in Seminary studying to be a pastor? I suppose you could call me a liar or perhaps a hypocritical Christian, or perhaps it means nothing at all to you. But I don't know what else to say. It seems nothing I can say will sway what you are already convinced of.