Dawkins: Immoral Not To Abort Down’s Syndrome Child

[Wilikon]

He's got a point, ya know. It's not just an issue of the child's rights, either, it's an issue of responsibility. Most parents can't afford to pay for the medical costs of raising children with certain disorders, yet choose to have them anyway knowing full well they'll be a tax burden on society. I kind of have a problem with that.

Some people have a problem with sex change operations paid by society too.

[BADecker]

Down's varies in people. Some people you would never guess that they have it. Others are vegetables, barely alive. Abortion is murder.

[Honeypot]

What's a fun fact is that Stephen Hawkings would have been declared unfit and denied a right to live, sending us back about forty years in astrophysics.

A real scholar with a physical handicap is of course better than any wannabe demagogue like dawkins. One has substance, the other has nothing but mouth.

[Yeezus]

What's a fun fact is that Stephen Hawkings would have been declared unfit and denied a right to live, sending us back about forty years in astrophysics.

Doubt it. He wasn't diagnosed with his disease until he was in his early twenties, but that's besides the point.

What's a fun fact is that Stephen Hawkings would have been declared unfit and denied a right to live, sending us back about forty years in astrophysics.

A real scholar with a physical handicap is of course better than any wannabe demagogue like dawkins. One has substance, the other has nothing but mouth.

Funny seeing as 'nothing but mouth' adequately describes your input here.

[Rigon]

I don't agree with his wording, but at the end of the day it has to be the choice of the parents and nobody else. I believe that people with Downs Syndrome can make a hugely positive contribution to society, but I have also seen cases where people who are more severely affected by the condition are abandoned to the system when their parents pass away or become too old to look after them. This is a particular problem as Downs parents tend to be older when the child is born. This is a heartbreaking decision for any expectant parent to make and there is no right or wrong answer.

[awesome31312]

Edit: never mind, misunderstood

[PotatoPie]

I don't agree with his wording, but at the end of the day it has to be the choice of the parents and nobody else. I believe that people with Downs Syndrome can make a hugely positive contribution to society, but I have also seen cases where people who are more severely affected by the condition are abandoned to the system when their parents pass away or become too old to look after them. This is a particular problem as Downs parents tend to be older when the child is born. This is a heartbreaking decision for any expectant parent to make and there is no right or wrong answer.

I totally agree with this. I've been around quite a few people with Downs syndrome and some are really nice people and can care for themselves but some are literally vegetables. "Abort and try again" - Has this guy ever been a parent? That's fucking disgusting.

[awesome31312]

He's always trying to be the center of attention. Whether he's making controversial rape comments, complaining about the terrorists winning because he lost his honey, talking about how babies with Down's should be aborted, or making sexist comments about women, Dawkins will never be famous for what he was supposed to be famous for, his crappy book.

[umair127]

Down's children have a lot more positives than negatives in terms of character. If he wants to get rid of people on the basis of imperfections lets start with psychopaths and sadists. Laughably all of these toe rags would have passed is subjective little test! Lets think just for one minute how the world will be when scientists are allowed to play God. Who exactly is going to define perfect in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years as the human quest for a marketing man's ideal person reaches ever more ridiculous specifications?

[awesome31312]

The first right mentioned in the Bill of Rights is the right to life.



Dawkins can take his eugenicist fascist ideology back to the UK, where they are all miserable and restricted.

[FreedomCoin]

The first right mentioned in the Bill of Rights is the right to life.



Dawkins can take his eugenicist fascist ideology back to the UK, where they are all miserable and restricted.

actually the first amendment is freedom of speech, which Dawkins is doing.

[awesome31312]

The first right mentioned in the Bill of Rights is the right to life.



Dawkins can take his eugenicist fascist ideology back to the UK, where they are all miserable and restricted.

actually the first amendment is freedom of speech, which Dawkins is doing.

Not the first amendment, I'm talking about the Bill of Rights

The "Right to Life, love, liberty"

[Balls]

Down's children have a lot more positives than negatives in terms of character. If he wants to get rid of people on the basis of imperfections lets start with psychopaths and sadists. Laughably all of these toe rags would have passed is subjective little test! Lets think just for one minute how the world will be when scientists are allowed to play God. Who exactly is going to define perfect in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years as the human quest for a marketing man's ideal person reaches ever more ridiculous specifications?

You can detect whether someone is going to be a psychopaths or a sadist in the womb? 

[awesome31312]

Down's children have a lot more positives than negatives in terms of character. If he wants to get rid of people on the basis of imperfections lets start with psychopaths and sadists. Laughably all of these toe rags would have passed is subjective little test! Lets think just for one minute how the world will be when scientists are allowed to play God. Who exactly is going to define perfect in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years as the human quest for a marketing man's ideal person reaches ever more ridiculous specifications?

You can detect whether someone is going to be a psychopaths or a sadist in the womb? 

Gene technology is progressing us to that point

[BADecker]

Down's children have a lot more positives than negatives in terms of character. If he wants to get rid of people on the basis of imperfections lets start with psychopaths and sadists. Laughably all of these toe rags would have passed is subjective little test! Lets think just for one minute how the world will be when scientists are allowed to play God. Who exactly is going to define perfect in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years as the human quest for a marketing man's ideal person reaches ever more ridiculous specifications?

You can detect whether someone is going to be a psychopaths or a sadist in the womb?  

Gene technology is progressing us to that point

Besides, it doesn't really matter, since the Elite of the world need to drastically reduce world population, anyway.  

[Wilikon]

Down's children have a lot more positives than negatives in terms of character. If he wants to get rid of people on the basis of imperfections lets start with psychopaths and sadists. Laughably all of these toe rags would have passed is subjective little test! Lets think just for one minute how the world will be when scientists are allowed to play God. Who exactly is going to define perfect in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years as the human quest for a marketing man's ideal person reaches ever more ridiculous specifications?

You can detect whether someone is going to be a psychopaths or a sadist in the womb? 

Gene technology is progressing us to that point

One good side of gene tech detection: less people like dawkins in the future? 

[awesome31312]

Down's children have a lot more positives than negatives in terms of character. If he wants to get rid of people on the basis of imperfections lets start with psychopaths and sadists. Laughably all of these toe rags would have passed is subjective little test! Lets think just for one minute how the world will be when scientists are allowed to play God. Who exactly is going to define perfect in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years as the human quest for a marketing man's ideal person reaches ever more ridiculous specifications?

You can detect whether someone is going to be a psychopaths or a sadist in the womb? 

Gene technology is progressing us to that point

One good side of gene tech detection: less people like dawkins in the future? 

That's just being the thought police

[Balls]

Down's children have a lot more positives than negatives in terms of character. If he wants to get rid of people on the basis of imperfections lets start with psychopaths and sadists. Laughably all of these toe rags would have passed is subjective little test! Lets think just for one minute how the world will be when scientists are allowed to play God. Who exactly is going to define perfect in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years as the human quest for a marketing man's ideal person reaches ever more ridiculous specifications?

You can detect whether someone is going to be a psychopaths or a sadist in the womb? 

Gene technology is progressing us to that point

One good side of gene tech detection: less people like dawkins in the future? 

I'm thinking we can use it to get rid of people like Honeypot to be honest  . Jk, I'm not a Nazi eugenicist unlike him.

[awesome31312]

Down's children have a lot more positives than negatives in terms of character. If he wants to get rid of people on the basis of imperfections lets start with psychopaths and sadists. Laughably all of these toe rags would have passed is subjective little test! Lets think just for one minute how the world will be when scientists are allowed to play God. Who exactly is going to define perfect in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years as the human quest for a marketing man's ideal person reaches ever more ridiculous specifications?

You can detect whether someone is going to be a psychopaths or a sadist in the womb? 

Gene technology is progressing us to that point

One good side of gene tech detection: less people like dawkins in the future? 

I'm thinking we can use it to get rid of people like Honeypot to be honest  . Jk, I'm not a Nazi eugenicist unlike him.

Unless you were implying so in an optimistic manner. You could declare education and health care a human right, not a privilege to those who can afford it (like in 'Murka!). Once you make education readily available to all citizens regardless of race/sex/religion, the world would see a much smaller chance of producing more HoneyPots

[BADecker]

Down's children have a lot more positives than negatives in terms of character. If he wants to get rid of people on the basis of imperfections lets start with psychopaths and sadists. Laughably all of these toe rags would have passed is subjective little test! Lets think just for one minute how the world will be when scientists are allowed to play God. Who exactly is going to define perfect in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years as the human quest for a marketing man's ideal person reaches ever more ridiculous specifications?

You can detect whether someone is going to be a psychopaths or a sadist in the womb? 

Gene technology is progressing us to that point

One good side of gene tech detection: less people like dawkins in the future? 

I'm thinking we can use it to get rid of people like Honeypot to be honest  . Jk, I'm not a Nazi eugenicist unlike him.

Unless you were implying so in an optimistic manner. You could declare education and health care a human right, not a privilege to those who can afford it (like in 'Murka!). Once you make education readily available to all citizens regardless of race/sex/religion, the world would see a much smaller chance of producing more HoneyPots

Of course, Health Care is simply another way of raping the world using the idea that there is real health care available from them.