A new religion: Shitlam

[BCEmporium]

Sorry, but those wackos are using M4 and other American gear.
I understand what was the idea behind it, just it wasn't a bright idea.

To add injury to sorrow, now US and EU will supply weapons to the Kurdish... do they realise it can and most likely will backfire, don't they?

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[Matze]

No doubt there is some of Islam on those movements, but even for Islam (or Islamism) they are way too radical. Even from Al-Qaeda POV, these guys are nuts!

Should not forget some of the radical Islam are trained by the CIA. The world is just a chessboard for the US.

The world is a cheesboard for the most powerful not just the us, look at Ukraine conflict for example.

[Spendulus]

Being study Islam for over a decade and even if I don't like it overall, I try to be focus and not fall into plain hate speech accusing Islam of every evil in the World.
Well then, it comes the time when I need to agree with general Muslims; ISIS and Boko Haram aren't Islam. They are way too radical even to the ways of the prophet, they are nothing but ignorant violent crackpots using the flag of Islam just because.
So I would propose to coin a new term to define this new Islamic-based non-sense, and that would be Shitlam, making ISIS and Boko Haram Shitlamic movements.

Would the Holiest of Holy Men in the Shitlamic movement be named?

Holy Shit?

[BCEmporium]

Would the Holiest of Holy Men in the Shitlamic movement be named?

Holy Shit?

 

[shogdite]

I'll applaud your rational view, WHEN AND ONLY WHEN I SEE A FATWA AGAINST EVERY LAST MEMBER OF ISIS AND BOKO HARAM, declared by prominent members of the Islamic clergy.

Until then, every last Muslim owns these creeps.

There have been plenty of muslim leaders/scholars denouncing ISIS:

http://www.arabamericannews.com/news/news/id_9262/Muslim-scholars-denounce-Islamic-State,-Israel-at-press-conference.html

The Imams Council of the Michigan Muslim Community Council (MMCC) condemned the continuing atrocities committed against religious minorities across Iraq and Syria by the Islamic State.

http://iqra.ca/2014/manitoba-muslims-denounce-isis/

We, the undersigned Muslim leaders in Winnipeg, unconditionally declare the actions of ISIS against the Iraqi Christians and Yazidis an affront to our faith, and we forcefully condemn any attempts by ISIS to associate their heinous crimes to Islam and to our prophetic tradition.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/02/Indonesian-Muslim-Leaders-Condemn-ISIS-The-Public-Have-to-be-Critical

More Muslims are speaking out against the Islamic State (IS), formerly known as ISIS. Two Muslim leaders in Indonesia condemned the group and those who support it, while the Supreme Religious Authority in Iraq asked the world to help the country fight the jihadists.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140825/NEWS05/308250218/Muslim-Detroit-ISIS-criminals

Muslim leaders gathered Monday on the steps of Dearborn City Hall to strongly condemn ISIS, saying the militant group in Iraq and Syria doesn’t represent Islam or Muslims.

[BCEmporium]

Strong condemning... but not a single Fatwa.

[Lethn]

Sorry, but those wackos are using M4 and other American gear.
I understand what was the idea behind it, just it wasn't a bright idea.

To add injury to sorrow, now US and EU will supply weapons to the Kurdish... do they realise it can and most likely will backfire, don't they?

I'd like to know why people seem to think the kurds are a bad choice? That said, considering how aggressive the U.S is to other nations who want to be independent of them I'm not surprised to see this kind of attitude amongst Americans.

[BCEmporium]

Sorry, but those wackos are using M4 and other American gear.
I understand what was the idea behind it, just it wasn't a bright idea.

To add injury to sorrow, now US and EU will supply weapons to the Kurdish... do they realise it can and most likely will backfire, don't they?

I'd like to know why people seem to think the kurds are a bad choice? That said, considering how aggressive the U.S is to other nations who want to be independent of them I'm not surprised to see this kind of attitude amongst Americans.

An escalate of violence afterwards, as Kurds will attack Iraq to try to be independent.
Advanced weapons requires advanced responsibility or you will end up doing nothing but the same as the guys in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU

[Lethn]

Oh well that's the U.S' fault to begin with because they refuse to recognise the Kurds and acknowledge they were an independent people before the Ottoman Empire ( and as it turns out the Mongol Empire now I'm reading more about them ) but there you go, you're digging yourselves into a hole.

[Wilikon]

Being study Islam for over a decade and even if I don't like it overall, I try to be focus and not fall into plain hate speech accusing Islam of every evil in the World.
Well then, it comes the time when I need to agree with general Muslims; ISIS and Boko Haram aren't Islam. They are way too radical even to the ways of the prophet, they are nothing but ignorant violent crackpots using the flag of Islam just because.
So I would propose to coin a new term to define this new Islamic-based non-sense, and that would be Shitlam, making ISIS and Boko Haram Shitlamic movements.

I have been "studying" islam for at least the past 16 years and I came to the same fitting name conclusion around 2001...

[tsoPANos]

No doubt there is some of Islam on those movements, but even for Islam (or Islamism) they are way too radical. Even from Al-Qaeda POV, these guys are nuts!

Should not forget some of the radical Islam are trained by the CIA. The world is just a chessboard for the US.

Finally someone with same views as me.
Being ISIS-friendly doesn't make you anti-American.
It makes you American-friendly.

[Spendulus]

I'll applaud your rational view, WHEN AND ONLY WHEN I SEE A FATWA AGAINST EVERY LAST MEMBER OF ISIS AND BOKO HARAM, declared by prominent members of the Islamic clergy.

Until then, every last Muslim owns these creeps.

There have been plenty of muslim leaders/scholars denouncing ISIS:

http://www.arabamericannews.com/news/news/id_9262/Muslim-scholars-denounce-Islamic-State,-Israel-at-press-conference.html

The Imams Council of the Michigan Muslim Community Council (MMCC) condemned the continuing atrocities committed against religious minorities across Iraq and Syria by the Islamic State.

http://iqra.ca/2014/manitoba-muslims-denounce-isis/

We, the undersigned Muslim leaders in Winnipeg, unconditionally declare the actions of ISIS against the Iraqi Christians and Yazidis an affront to our faith, and we forcefully condemn any attempts by ISIS to associate their heinous crimes to Islam and to our prophetic tradition.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/02/Indonesian-Muslim-Leaders-Condemn-ISIS-The-Public-Have-to-be-Critical

More Muslims are speaking out against the Islamic State (IS), formerly known as ISIS. Two Muslim leaders in Indonesia condemned the group and those who support it, while the Supreme Religious Authority in Iraq asked the world to help the country fight the jihadists.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140825/NEWS05/308250218/Muslim-Detroit-ISIS-criminals

Muslim leaders gathered Monday on the steps of Dearborn City Hall to strongly condemn ISIS, saying the militant group in Iraq and Syria doesn’t represent Islam or Muslims.

Let's SEE THAT FATWA or your linkies a bunch of crybabies!

[Spendulus]

Strong condemning... but not a single Fatwa.

Tell you what, too.  Don't be fooled by this.  Ever try looking at the English of a major Middle Eastern news source, then at the Farsi or other native language?

Lots of time they say one thing in the English, the opposite in the actual paper.

No FATWA?

You own them.

[Balthazar]

Shitlam

[BCEmporium]

I am an American and i would like to ask for an Explanation of the difference of ISIS Extremists killing people for Various reasons they deem right and the Normal Islamist let's say in Pakistan that Stones a woman to death for the "ACCUSATION" of adultery or marrying out of their Religion such as a Christian?

I know there are many Muslim Bitcoin users here and simply ask for an explanation as to how the Extremists ISIS and Regular Islamist see the difference as to how Stoning a Woman to death for Adultery is ok but condemn ISIS for attacks based on what they believe is ok?

Now just for the Record i'm not taking sides  because when i read about an Insane group of people Who dig a hole put a women in it and throw stones at her until she is dead because they accuse her of Adultery is just as insane as an ISIS member Beheading Syrians because they won't convert to Islam.

To me both Instances are insane. Both are Wrong. Both are Barbaric and even animals Do not have this behavior.

So can 1 Rational Muslim please Explain to me what is the difference between the way of thinking and how a God would deem this as normal behavior?


Yes i am Ignorant in this subject and that's why i'm posting. To learn and inform myself. Anyone?

Islam is pretty much violent, no doubt about it. I understand for some "shitlam" is a good name for Islam as a whole.
But within the violent madness, Islam has a set of rules, one abiding by such rules shouldn't be harmed or harassed. Those movements, like Boko or ISIS, simply have no rules at all. They say "convert" whether you are already a Muslim or not, they are a sect of violent Muslims more violent than usual, sort of the exact opposite of the Ahammadya, a sect of pacifist Muslims (who they cast all sort of Fatwas against, kill their members and destroy their mosques - like I said early, they are pretty strong... but just for the weak. Kind of those guys who beat women but run like hell and cry out loud if a man goes after them).

[Spendulus]

I am an American and i would like to ask for an Explanation of the difference of ISIS Extremists killing people for Various reasons they deem right and the Normal Islamist let's say in Pakistan that Stones a woman to death for the "ACCUSATION" of adultery or marrying out of their Religion such as a Christian?

I know there are many Muslim Bitcoin users here and simply ask for an explanation as to how the Extremists ISIS and Regular Islamist see the difference as to how Stoning a Woman to death for Adultery is ok but condemn ISIS for attacks based on what they believe is ok?

Now just for the Record i'm not taking sides  because when i read about an Insane group of people Who dig a hole put a women in it and throw stones at her until she is dead because they accuse her of Adultery is just as insane as an ISIS member Beheading Syrians because they won't convert to Islam.

To me both Instances are insane. Both are Wrong. Both are Barbaric and even animals Do not have this behavior.

So can 1 Rational Muslim please Explain to me what is the difference between the way of thinking and how a God would deem this as normal behavior?


Yes i am Ignorant in this subject and that's why i'm posting. To learn and inform myself. Anyone?

You have a pretty good point.  Note that I've gone WAY out on a limb and suggested these guys needed to FAWTA down their own crazies.

All the Muslims I have personally known were good people and would not abide with any of this behavior.

[dank]

Religion is based off the spiritual experiences of others.  Spirituality is based off your own experiences.

Religions have been hijacked by the power structure, long long ago.  They contaminate the truth with fallacious logic and sentiments of falsity, hate and derision.

Instead of looking to others for answers, look within yourself.  See for yourself.

[crocko]

I hope these terrorists don't mine for Bitcoin or any other digital currency.
After the Silk Road, this will be a major setback for our community of honest miners and traders.

[tooil]

Sorry, but those wackos are using M4 and other American gear.
I understand what was the idea behind it, just it wasn't a bright idea.

To add injury to sorrow, now US and EU will supply weapons to the Kurdish... do they realise it can and most likely will backfire, don't they?

The goal is to let the enemies fight among themselves, then bribe the corrupted one and get him into position of power.

Once that is done, the legitimate regime will become a vassal state of the US.

[shogdite]

I'll applaud your rational view, WHEN AND ONLY WHEN I SEE A FATWA AGAINST EVERY LAST MEMBER OF ISIS AND BOKO HARAM, declared by prominent members of the Islamic clergy.

Until then, every last Muslim owns these creeps.

There have been plenty of muslim leaders/scholars denouncing ISIS:

http://www.arabamericannews.com/news/news/id_9262/Muslim-scholars-denounce-Islamic-State,-Israel-at-press-conference.html

The Imams Council of the Michigan Muslim Community Council (MMCC) condemned the continuing atrocities committed against religious minorities across Iraq and Syria by the Islamic State.

http://iqra.ca/2014/manitoba-muslims-denounce-isis/

We, the undersigned Muslim leaders in Winnipeg, unconditionally declare the actions of ISIS against the Iraqi Christians and Yazidis an affront to our faith, and we forcefully condemn any attempts by ISIS to associate their heinous crimes to Islam and to our prophetic tradition.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/02/Indonesian-Muslim-Leaders-Condemn-ISIS-The-Public-Have-to-be-Critical

More Muslims are speaking out against the Islamic State (IS), formerly known as ISIS. Two Muslim leaders in Indonesia condemned the group and those who support it, while the Supreme Religious Authority in Iraq asked the world to help the country fight the jihadists.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140825/NEWS05/308250218/Muslim-Detroit-ISIS-criminals

Muslim leaders gathered Monday on the steps of Dearborn City Hall to strongly condemn ISIS, saying the militant group in Iraq and Syria doesn’t represent Islam or Muslims.

Let's SEE THAT FATWA or your linkies a bunch of crybabies!

lol no crybabies here

Leading British Muslims issue fatwa condemning terror group:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/isis-terror-threat-leading-british-muslims-issue-fatwa-condemning-terror-group-9702042.html

"Muslim leaders have issued a fatwa condemning Islamic extremist group Isis, and have said that British jihadis are “betraying their own societies” by getting involved in the conflicts in Iraq and Syria.

The fatwa represents the British Muslim community’s strongest denunciation of Isis yet, calling the extremist group “heretical” and “an oppressive and tyrannical group.”