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August 26, 2014, 12:57:13 AM Last edit: August 26, 2014, 11:51:55 PM by digitalindustry |
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People seem hostile to this initiative but in reality i'm just trying to provide a voice of reason i really believe our investments here rely on this :
key updates in bold
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- - Bitcoin is stagnating
- - This is a failure of the free market.
- - Bitcoin needs to replace its broken central authority (mining monopoly standoff) with an authorized authority
- - This could be Democratic similar to the UN.
- - Also Bitcoin needs a Global ID so that the Central Authority can enforce and ensure that no double spends occur.
People already seem malleable to the idea as they are actively giving hand ID and other such ID at "Bitcoin ATMs" i think there would be net net low resistance.
maybe a few "free market rebels" here and there, but if we can control and distract the flow of information we could crowd these guys out and hope that though, Problem > Reaction > Solution we can get the desired effect?
feedback is welcome.
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Bitcoin needs to step up, becoming a structural system that has the confidence of the business community.
in the end. as i said it's your investment, chaotic market forces will not be kind to Bitcoin price valuation.
the Points:
- half a central authority is not going to work. (where you are now)
- move to a full central system that has the support of key business financial community members.
- make the "Global ID" sound friendly and geared towards to consumer, like "safety verification" etc.
- this policy/protocol also ensures good community practice with the ability to block questionable transactions, i.e Terrorists pedophile transactions etc.
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August 26, 2014, 01:10:33 AM |
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Bitcoin isn't fucking stagnating and neither are cryptocurrencies, have you seen the volume coming in? This is actually something that was theorised years ago back when I first joined at Bitcoin was at $50 or so and people were crying about the volatility. What's happened now is because we've got a ton of people coming in the price is actually beginning to stabilise compared to before as a lot of new money has come in and you can't have people throwing a few thousand at the market and then screwing with the price.
Also, you're proposing to 'fix' this 'problem' is essentially an organised oligarchy and I've had enough of that kind of bullshit so fuck you.
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August 26, 2014, 01:48:15 AM |
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As title suggests:
- - Bitcoin is stagnating
- - This is a failure of the free market.
- - Bitcoin needs to replace its broken central authority (mining monopoly standoff) with an authorized authority
- - This could be Democratic similar to the UN.
- - Also Bitcoin needs a Global ID so that the Central Authority can enforce and ensure that no double spends occur.
People already seem malleable to the idea as they are actively giving hand ID and other such ID at "Bitcoin ATMs" i think there would be net net low resistance.
maybe a few "free market rebels" here and there, but if we can control and distract the flow of information we could crowd these guys out and hope that though, Problem > Reaction > Solution we can get the desired effect?
feedback is welcome.
All I had to do was read your "Quark Free Market" and I knew why you posted this. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 26, 2014, 01:57:42 AM |
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Create exactly what you describe above, exactly what you want, exactly what you think people want and need.
Compete head to head with Bitcoin
Winner take all.
You will lose. I am betting on it because I own a boatload of BTC.
BTW what it the name of the thing you are pushing? Just curious.
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August 26, 2014, 02:06:04 AM |
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digitalindustry (OP)
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August 26, 2014, 02:21:37 AM |
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Create exactly what you describe above, exactly what you want, exactly what you think people want and need.
Compete head to head with Bitcoin
Winner take all.
You will lose. I am betting on it because I own a boatload of BTC.
BTW what it the name of the thing you are pushing? Just curious.
hmm interesting so you are saying the free market will win? i suppose there is some evidence to suggest that. but on the other side there is a lot of evidence to suggest that monopoly and central authority is more efficient: - the Bitcoin Price has caused its success so far for example. - Also this "Bit License" regulation could open doors to key areas of the corporate world. - A proper central authority and a Global ID would be key in gaining support for Bitcoin from key financial institutions that seem to be now standing aside due to its "free market volatility" so in Summary:Bitcoin needs to choose a side, its monopoly central authority is breaking down, the only way to gain KEY support from KEY financial institutions is if they are confidence that there is a fixed central authority. The Global ID would be needed to assure security and be certain that no double spend occurs. If you haev invested a "boatload" in Bitcoin you should properly now want the further proliferation of this assets to the authority that can have confidence in it. no ?
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August 26, 2014, 02:29:20 AM |
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The Global ID would be needed to assure security and be certain that no double spend occurs.
Are you kidding me? You have that much activity and that many posts and you don't know the first thing about how Bitcoin actually works, the problems it solves and what makes it such an exciting invention? Sad. I see you registered March 09, 2013, 07:14:42 PM What the hell have you been doing all that time? Spouting forth shit on something you have not even taken the first baby steps in learning about?
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August 26, 2014, 02:46:51 AM |
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OP has listed all the things Bitcoin doesn't need, all the things that would effectively destroy its value as a currency.
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August 26, 2014, 02:48:12 AM |
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as the attitude of the OP seems very noobish. seems its a noob that has bought a 'experienced' username..
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I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER. Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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August 26, 2014, 02:50:02 AM |
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if you read Bitcoin paper then you will come to know that primary goal of Bitcoin is not to trust central authority. 2nd link in the introduction paragraph. Feel free to enlighten yourself: http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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August 26, 2014, 02:57:37 AM |
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I agree. Appears to be an infant trying to purchase adulthood. Didn't work.
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August 26, 2014, 03:42:29 AM |
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digitalindustry (OP)
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August 26, 2014, 03:48:18 AM |
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I agree. Appears to be an infant trying to purchase adulthood. Didn't work.
It's your prerogative it's your investment. I'm outlining key drivers for growth of the assest "Bitcoin" I'm specifically mentioning why it relates to Bitcoin and why this transition looks to me the only probable outcome for an increased valuation ascent.
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August 26, 2014, 03:52:10 AM |
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Honesty test: How long have you owned the digitalindustry account?
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August 26, 2014, 03:53:33 AM |
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I could not disagree more with the OP. We neither want nor need any sort of global authority and certainly not one similar to the UN.
As a newly minted bit coin business owner I prefer the flat pricing. It makes planning easier and shows stability.
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August 26, 2014, 04:17:05 AM |
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as the attitude of the OP seems very noobish. seems its a noob that has bought a 'experienced' username..
Nah, inane rambling are just a side effect of Quark.
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August 26, 2014, 04:35:47 AM |
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As title suggests:
- - Bitcoin is stagnating
- - This is a failure of the free market.
- - Bitcoin needs to replace its broken central authority (mining monopoly standoff) with an authorized authority
- - This could be Democratic similar to the UN.
- - Also Bitcoin needs a Global ID so that the Central Authority can enforce and ensure that no double spends occur.
People already seem malleable to the idea as they are actively giving hand ID and other such ID at "Bitcoin ATMs" i think there would be net net low resistance.
maybe a few "free market rebels" here and there, but if we can control and distract the flow of information we could crowd these guys out and hope that though, Problem > Reaction > Solution we can get the desired effect?
feedback is welcome.
Start your own "Central_Authority_Coin" and let it compete against Bitcoin. Let the free market decide. Besides isn't "Problem > Reaction > Solution" a shortened version of the communist/socialist think tank idea "Create Problem > Control Media Reaction > Propose Social Solution" that I use to run across a few decades ago? It is because of people like you, that Bitcoin has so much support. Go find a museum and have yourself mummified for future generations to laugh at.
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August 26, 2014, 04:57:15 AM |
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hey OP, this is the exact OPPOSITE of why Satoshi created Bitcoin!
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digitalindustry (OP)
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August 26, 2014, 06:59:19 AM Last edit: August 26, 2014, 11:48:24 PM by digitalindustry |
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i'm just trying to be the voice of reason, i'm trying to support the market view.
intentions shift, that's a part of the whole reason systems/protocols evolve.
for Bitcoin the trend seems to be that this would be "stepping up", becoming a structural system that has the confidence of the business community.
in the end. as i said it's your investment, chaotic market forces will not be kind to Bitcoin price valuation.
the Points:
- half a central authority is not going to work. (where you are now)
- move to a full central system that has the support of key business financial community members.
- make the "Global ID" sound friendly and geared towards to consumer, like "safety verification" etc.
- this policy/protocol also ensures good community practice with the ability to block questionable transactions, i.e Terrorists pedophile transactions etc.
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August 26, 2014, 07:38:38 AM |
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Bitcoin is stagnating
- - This is a failure of the free market.
- - Bitcoin needs to replace its broken central authority (mining monopoly standoff) with an authorized authority
- - This could be Democratic similar to the UN.
- - Also Bitcoin needs a Global ID so that the Central Authority can enforce and ensure that no double spends occur.
The programmers are strengthening the safety of the Bitcoin. As the degree of acceptance of Bitcoin increases, it will have a profound effect on the market. As so far, it has continued for a long period, and in the next tens of years, the payment method by Bitcoin will stir the payment market and other market based on credit.
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