If you are anti-Bitcoin or permabear, why are you here?

[bigtimespaghetti]

I'm anti what I think bitcoin will (has) become- centralised and controlled.

But I think the concept has value. I don't actually see any major drivers to push us to ATH either, though technical analysis seems to favour an increase over the medium-long term at least.

[An amorous cow-herder]

Disclaimer: Given prices, i´m a "perma-sceptic" since April ´13 and a "perma-bear" since November ´13.

I'm anti what I think bitcoin will (has) become- centralised and controlled.

The only thing bitcoin has going for it is "decentralised", without that premise it would be pretty mush bullshit.

[dropt]

The only thing bitcoin has going for it is "decentralised", without that premise it would be pretty mush bullshit.

So you're saying without decentralization it's about par with your opinion?

[bassguitarman]

So..why are you hear? To me, it seems quite obvious you aren't really pessimistic at all about Bitcoin's future. None of you is telling the truth. Well, certainly not the full truth.

..or are you guys like the Soccer Moms on Yahoo Answers responding to sex questions posted by 16 year old girls with answers like, "I got pregnant on my period 4 times...and I got AIDS *and* herpes from unprotected sex just one time!!" in a sad attempt to keep young girls from having fun that you yourself never had.

Enlighten us all. Why are you here?

They are only here because apparently years ago the Bitcointalk admins, in their infinite wisdom, decided that trolls should be able to have their day too... democracy, free speech and all that.

Umm, yeah.

So now we have sock puppet accounts being created 193930293493 times a day, just to troll this sub forum and spam the boards with constant troll-crap.  And apparently they never get banned.  If if they do, the trolls just create another throwaway account and troll some more.

Meanwhile, positive people and bitcoin believers eventually get squeezed out and run off by all the crap posting.  So with all the good people run off, all that's left is the trolls basically just reading and commenting on their own threads.  A troll-bear circle jerk.

Hooray.

Thats dumb.  Complete tolerance is almost as stupid as no tolerance

[Bitbirdhunt]

There are barely any anti-bitcoin and permabear people here. Jorge only that I know.

Others are just trolls who are trolling to help their short position or to buy low.

I love to see people alike,who make more sense out of less word and help people understand.

[An amorous cow-herder]

The only thing bitcoin has going for it is "decentralised", without that premise it would be pretty mush bullshit.

So you're saying without decentralization it's about par with your opinion?

Ad-Hominem attack detected. You loose by default.

But seriously. What is the advantage of using some "bockchain" vs. a simple database transaction?
Blockchain is bloody expensive and slow. Database is quick and efficient and cheap.
"Hot wallets" cannot be backed up. In case of an instrusion any theft is permanent.

Bitcoin prooves that a decentralised payment system is possible. But without decentralisation it is pure bullshit.
So, please provide information what BTC provides over a centralised system.

The following dont count:
* Fixed monetary supply.
  Reason: The "share holders" (and that happen to be the miners) decide what transactions are legit. Higher fees and/or further output of coins are possible if the mayority of miners collude.
* Anonymity:
  Bitcoin never was anonymous. It was pseudonymous. If or how many mixing pools are operated by gov institutions is up for debate, but even if it hasnt been done before it it highly likely law enforcemant will target money laundry (and face it, that pretty much the definition of "mixing pools")

So, please do tell me why bitcoin is better than "PayPal", "PerfectMoney", etc..

[itsAj]

I am not personally anti-bitcoin nor am I a "permabear" however I would imagine that these types of people are likely somewhat interested in bitcoin and are somewhat interested in the technical aspects of bitcoin and the economy behind bitcoin. This would really not so much explain the anti-bitcoin group but would explain why the permabears are here.