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I admit I didn't watch the whole video, and I'm no expert, but I'm guessing the Gold is coming from tiny particles in the sand used to make the glass. If that's the case, I don't know how economical that would be. I would recommend getting a metal detector and hitting up your local parks.
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August 29, 2014, 04:29:53 PM |
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This is just a form of gold refining where he's taking traces of gold from the glass that he's gotten, it's not actually making gold FROM glass if that makes sense, I think it's just a misleading title, it might be a new chemical process he's discovered though to do this but he isn't actually making gold like the philosopher's stone ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) . I wasn't aware there was any gold in modern day glass though, there are all sorts of places gold and silver is used where you can get gold/silver from if you know the chemical refining for it, electronic components are one example and then the classic examples are taking broken bits of silver ornaments, vases and things like that, then there's the obvious stuff like coins which have a percentage of silver in them. Gold in particular I know is often used because it's an excellent conductor of electricity and heat and Jewellers ( Like me ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) use it because of how soft it is like silver, no idea why anyone would put it in glass though, that's beyond my knowledge.
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August 29, 2014, 04:41:38 PM |
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Whats gets me is why would they need funding if they found a cheaper way then they could be self funding haha. Ah well interesting stuff still.
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August 30, 2014, 11:54:05 AM |
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That's the thing, I think they're exaggerating what it can do they probably can't make that much money off it without buying up lots which will be why they claim they need funding, I don't understand the whole glass thing though this seems ridiculous, a bit like collected gold/silver dust when you're a Jewellery, if the Gold/Silver price is that high dust is valuable you shouldn't be selling it for paper currencies, better to just melt the stuff down into bars or coins and trade it directly with people.
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August 30, 2014, 01:46:58 PM |
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Never knew that Lepirate thanks! I suppose it should be possible because we've made artificial diamonds before haven't we?
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August 30, 2014, 01:50:53 PM |
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That's nothing, the other day I saw a half hour report (video) of a company making diamonds. Just in case you dont know diamonds takes millions of years to be made by nature, but this company was making it in just days, i'm sure if you do research you will find this report.
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August 30, 2014, 02:31:15 PM |
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That's nothing, the other day I saw a half hour report (video) of a company making diamonds. Just in case you dont know diamonds takes millions of years to be made by nature, but this company was making it in just days, i'm sure if you do research you will find this report.
I saw that documentary too. But there still a way to differentiate the synthetic from organic diamonds. I think all things can be synthesized but what remains is the high cost of synthesing than the cost of getting it naturally.
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This is not feasible - the net gain is depleted through the marginal costs of heating and extraction. Better chance of recovering gold from electronic scrap processing.
In simple terms with my own opinion utilized - You pay 300 bucks for 2000 lbs of cheap used glass - you pay 100 dollars for chemicals - you pay $1000 dollars in heating and processing costs - and it gets you about $15 dollars worth of Gold reclaimed.
Update: Food for thought: elements cannot be created nor destroyed - they can be deconstructed downward through fission processes which will also release neutrons and radioactive energy. Particles are not created (in the typical sense IIRC volatile exotic isotopes as well as synthesized atoms with unstable half-lives do come into creation). He says you can "recover the gold through hydraulic separation" - well wait a minute, weren't we doing that in the step where we crushed the glass into a powder to begin with? Furthermore, the OP never goes into detail on how much source glass material is needed - he does a comparison and says that scientists would be highly skeptical and his answer to this "Thank God for the advancements in science"
Seriously this guy is a total crackpot. Google is your friend: Glass is made by melting together several minerals at very high temperatures. Silica in the form of sand is the main ingredient and this is combined with soda ash and limestone and melted in a furnace at temperatures of 1700°C.
Soooo, by breaking down glass into a powder form, you are simply getting metamorphosized silica crystals, NOTHING MORE.
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August 30, 2014, 02:46:50 PM |
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Never knew that Lepirate thanks! I suppose it should be possible because we've made artificial diamonds before haven't we?
Changing elements is a lot tougher and different than changing state.
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August 30, 2014, 02:46:58 PM Last edit: August 30, 2014, 03:28:57 PM by Watoshi-Dimobuto |
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This is not feasible - the net gain is depleted through the marginal costs of heating and extraction. Better chance of recovering gold from electronic scrap processing.
In simple terms with my own opinion utilized - You pay 300 bucks for 2000 lbs of cheap used glass - you pay 100 dollars for chemicals - you pay $1000 dollars in heating and processing costs - and it gets you about $15 dollars worth of Gold reclaimed.
You cannot create gold from glass chemically. Glass is mostly silicon element and gold is another element. Both of this elements are stable. If you create gold from glass maybe it is possible by altering the silicon element in sub atomic level. You cannot do it from melting the glass alone.
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August 30, 2014, 02:57:09 PM |
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Never knew that Lepirate thanks! I suppose it should be possible because we've made artificial diamonds before haven't we?
Changing elements is a lot tougher and different than changing state. Wouldn't know about that as I'm just a Jeweller and have an interest in minting my own coins and bars ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I'm not a chemical expert ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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August 30, 2014, 03:09:30 PM |
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I guess getting silver from old and broken mirrors and from filters has more chance of being profitable than that.
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August 30, 2014, 03:25:43 PM |
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This is ridiculous the amount of gold you would get from glass would not be worth the money to extract it because obviously someone else would have done it already.
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August 30, 2014, 03:43:25 PM |
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Mining gold from Asteriod is more feasible than creating gold from a glass. That video is nonsense.
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August 30, 2014, 03:56:18 PM |
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Mining gold from Asteriod is more feasible than creating gold from a glass. That video is nonsense.
Finally! People are coming round to my way of thinking! ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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August 30, 2014, 03:59:39 PM |
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As some people already have pointed out: It most likely isn't worth the trouble, to be honest. There are more simple ways of doing it. It always depends on the gold price, though. It's a bit like bitcoin. You can still opt to use outdated hardware if you speculate on a higher future price!
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August 30, 2014, 04:50:32 PM |
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The video was completely crap.I don't believe in such shit.I mean what the hell is he tryna prove?
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August 30, 2014, 04:56:47 PM |
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How about buying a small ocean-going boat to travel the world and see the sights. Have a high-speed centrifuge, run by solar energy, that separates the gold in seawater from the water. Use the gold to pay for the things that you can't get from the sea. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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