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September 05, 2014, 12:31:45 PM
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When I think of Norway I don't see too many pros from a no cash policy...

The major pro is stopping the mints. Norway is largely non-cash as it were already. You cannot pay with cash in hospitals or medical centers. Many shops already have cashless counters. If you try to pay with cash for public transportation in Oslo, you pay higher price than if you were using a prepayed card (equivalent of €6.15 per hour instead of €3.70) and such cards can be mostly charged cashlessly. When I think about it, the last time I held cash was about 4 months ago...

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September 06, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
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When I think of Norway I don't see too many pros from a no cash policy...

The major pro is stopping the mints. Norway is largely non-cash as it were already. You cannot pay with cash in hospitals or medical centers. Many shops already have cashless counters. If you try to pay with cash for public transportation in Oslo, you pay higher price than if you were using a prepayed card (equivalent of €6.15 per hour instead of €3.70) and such cards can be mostly charged cashlessly. When I think about it, the last time I held cash was about 4 months ago...

Is your ID linked to all those prepaid cards?

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September 07, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
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I so am gonna short this... If US gov couldn't do a homepage for health care, good luck that Ecuador will be able to secure a bad implementation of bitcoin.
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September 08, 2014, 10:33:30 AM
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When I think of Norway I don't see too many pros from a no cash policy...

The major pro is stopping the mints. Norway is largely non-cash as it were already. You cannot pay with cash in hospitals or medical centers. Many shops already have cashless counters. If you try to pay with cash for public transportation in Oslo, you pay higher price than if you were using a prepayed card (equivalent of €6.15 per hour instead of €3.70) and such cards can be mostly charged cashlessly. When I think about it, the last time I held cash was about 4 months ago...

Is your ID linked to all those prepaid cards?

For the most part, yes. You buy them using your bank card (national payment system), so there is a link. And most people nowadays pay for their tickets (either single fare or 7- or 30-day) through their phones, using VISA payment - another link. And then many directly link their travel cards to an on-line account "for ease of monitoring what your active tickets look like".

Actually, using the phone and a 30-day ticket is the most anonymous way after cash - you pay once and then you only have to show the phone's screen to the driver.

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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September 08, 2014, 10:42:27 AM
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When I think of Norway I don't see too many pros from a no cash policy...

The major pro is stopping the mints. Norway is largely non-cash as it were already. You cannot pay with cash in hospitals or medical centers. Many shops already have cashless counters. If you try to pay with cash for public transportation in Oslo, you pay higher price than if you were using a prepayed card (equivalent of €6.15 per hour instead of €3.70) and such cards can be mostly charged cashlessly. When I think about it, the last time I held cash was about 4 months ago...

Is your ID linked to all those prepaid cards?

For the most part, yes. You buy them using your bank card (national payment system), so there is a link. And most people nowadays pay for their tickets (either single fare or 7- or 30-day) through their phones, using VISA payment - another link. And then many directly link their travel cards to an on-line account "for ease of monitoring what your active tickets look like".

Actually, using the phone and a 30-day ticket is the most anonymous way after cash - you pay once and then you only have to show the phone's screen to the driver.



Can you buy a sim card wit no id in Norway?

There are talks about a new law here that would require everyone to present their id and be registered in the mobile operator database even for prepaid card. This would kill the anonymity of those kind of payments.



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September 08, 2014, 10:45:43 AM
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Can you buy a sim card wit no id in Norway?

There are talks about a new law here that would require everyone to present their id and be registered in the mobile operator database even for prepaid card. This would kill the anonymity of those kind of payments.

No. You must provide an ID for any type of SIM card.

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September 08, 2014, 06:10:52 PM
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Can you buy a sim card wit no id in Norway?

There are talks about a new law here that would require everyone to present their id and be registered in the mobile operator database even for prepaid card. This would kill the anonymity of those kind of payments.

No. You must provide an ID for any type of SIM card.

Wow. That sucks. Big time. Of course "why be worry if you have nothing to hide" can be heard all over your place I would imagine.

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September 08, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
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Can you buy a sim card wit no id in Norway?

There are talks about a new law here that would require everyone to present their id and be registered in the mobile operator database even for prepaid card. This would kill the anonymity of those kind of payments.

No. You must provide an ID for any type of SIM card.

Wow. That sucks. Big time. Of course "why be worry if you have nothing to hide" can be heard all over your place I would imagine.



Actually I did a small research about calls..
Last year we had 17.4m calls to the emergency 112 in our country , out of which 70,91%  have been false.

10.892 people have received a fine while more than 5 times this number , over to 50 000 haven't been yet identified.
One of the most outrageous case happened last winter when such a fake call put an ambulance on a 1.5 hour drive to a snow covered village where they got stuck. In the meantime in the same county 1 man died because there was no ambulance available.

Just by looking at those numbers I can see why an id would be required.

Ps.
I think that a ten year sentence would be mild for such a "prank" Instead ,  the maximum you can get is a ~250 euros fine.


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September 08, 2014, 06:34:53 PM
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Ecuador's digital currency would be a great joke.

If the people of Ecuador get used to trading in an electronic currency on cell phones, one of the existing barrier to entry for bitcoin will be weakened

True, that would be the only good outcome, after all.
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