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January 23, 2015, 06:35:26 PM Last edit: January 23, 2015, 10:36:52 PM by miffman |
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Looking to trade:
My 1 Casascius bearer bar in original wrap
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Your loaded Lealana 25LTC piece (non-buyer funded) + 2 0.1 lealana brass tenth loaded (non-buyer funded)
negotiable of course.
Edited to avoid ambiguity lol.
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January 23, 2015, 06:39:53 PM |
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Looking to trade:
1 Casascius bearer bar in original wrap
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loaded Lealana 25LTC piece (non-buyer funded) + 2 0.1 lealana brass tenth loaded (non-buyer funded)
negotiable of course.
Is a loaded Lealana coin really worth less than an unloaded Casascius bearer bar?
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miffman
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January 23, 2015, 07:08:34 PM |
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Looking to trade:
1 Casascius bearer bar in original wrap
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loaded Lealana 25LTC piece (non-buyer funded) + 2 0.1 lealana brass tenth loaded (non-buyer funded)
negotiable of course.
Is a loaded Lealana coin really worth less than an unloaded Casascius bearer bar? Well, when I put up offers like these I usually push my luck a bit. But some of these go for 400$ on ebay, and around 1.8BTC here. And I'd say the price of a 25LTC would be 1.1 - 1.2BTC or so. I guess I could be wrong about the 25LTC price, but LTC itself has gone down significantly.
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January 23, 2015, 08:06:04 PM |
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Looking to trade:
1 Casascius bearer bar in original wrap
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loaded Lealana 25LTC piece (non-buyer funded) + 2 0.1 lealana brass tenth loaded (non-buyer funded)
negotiable of course.
Is a loaded Lealana coin really worth less than an unloaded Casascius bearer bar? Well, when I put up offers like these I usually push my luck a bit. But some of these go for 400$ on ebay, and around 1.8BTC here. And I'd say the price of a 25LTC would be 1.1 - 1.2BTC or so. I guess I could be wrong about the 25LTC price, but LTC itself has gone down significantly. Just want to add, that the 25 LTC is relative rare (less than 500 I belive?) and in my opinion the most beautiful of all the Lealana coins, 1.1-1.2 is definitely realistic, would even consider buying it from you
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February 22, 2015, 07:32:17 PM |
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I' looking for 1 Cryptolator 999 Silver edition.
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February 23, 2015, 04:52:39 AM |
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I am also looking for the silver unchained element series. Plz pm me or post here your offer. Thanks !!!
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February 23, 2015, 09:36:55 AM |
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Looking to trade:
My 1 Casascius bearer bar in original wrap
for
Your loaded Lealana 25LTC piece (non-buyer funded) + 2 0.1 lealana brass tenth loaded (non-buyer funded)
negotiable of course.
Edited to avoid ambiguity lol.
hey mate, really interested in your bearer bar, I have 3 x 5ltc funded coins on silver
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February 23, 2015, 10:04:29 AM |
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Looking to trade:
My 1 Casascius bearer bar in original wrap
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Your loaded Lealana 25LTC piece (non-buyer funded) + 2 0.1 lealana brass tenth loaded (non-buyer funded)
negotiable of course.
Edited to avoid ambiguity lol.
hey mate, really interested in your bearer bar, I have 3 x 5ltc funded coins on silver I didn't update, sorry. It sold a while back.
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Kialara 2014 Coin : Blazedout
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Casascuis St. Petersburg : Blazedout Casascuis St. Petersburg : eBay ( Gyft ) Bought. Casascuis St. Petersburg : ?? Still looking. Casascuis St. Petersburg : ?? Still looking. Casascuis St. Petersburg : ?? Still looking. Kialara 2015 Coin : ?? Still looking Kialara 2015 Coin : ?? Still looking Kialara 2015 Coin : ?? Still looking
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March 11, 2015, 06:48:34 PM |
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Kialara 2014 Coin : Blazedout
Kialara 2014 Coin : AT101ET
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Casascuis St. Petersburg : Blazedout Casascuis St. Petersburg : eBay ( Gyft ) Bought. Casascuis St. Petersburg : ?? Still looking. Casascuis St. Petersburg : ?? Still looking. Casascuis St. Petersburg : ?? Still looking. Kialara 2015 Coin : ?? Still looking Kialara 2015 Coin : ?? Still looking Kialara 2015 Coin : ?? Still looking
Casascius 2013 0.5 Ungraded Brass : iglasses Roll of 10 CryptoImperator's Dogecoin 10.000 Gold 2014. 1/ 10
I only have Bitcoin for now, that is my payment. I am building up my collection.
Are you looking to buy a whole roll of CI Dogecoins? I can maybe let go of one or two coins.
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Equinoxx
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March 11, 2015, 06:51:02 PM |
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Kialara 2014 Coin : Blazedout
Kialara 2014 Coin : AT101ET
4ct Gold Plated & Bronze Physical Bitcoins: eBay
Casascuis St. Petersburg : Blazedout Casascuis St. Petersburg : eBay ( Gyft ) Bought. Casascuis St. Petersburg : ?? Still looking. Casascuis St. Petersburg : ?? Still looking. Casascuis St. Petersburg : ?? Still looking. Kialara 2015 Coin : ?? Still looking Kialara 2015 Coin : ?? Still looking Kialara 2015 Coin : ?? Still looking
Casascius 2013 0.5 Ungraded Brass : iglasses Roll of 10 CryptoImperator's Dogecoin 10.000 Gold 2014. 1/ 10
I only have Bitcoin for now, that is my payment. I am building up my collection.
Are you looking to buy a whole roll of CI Dogecoins? I can maybe let go of one or two coins. I got it sorted thanks. I will contact soon about the Kialara we talked about.
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March 11, 2015, 06:54:06 PM |
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Is there a thread where people can ask for price checks of physical crypto coins or a place that has the average prices listed? I'd like to see one as it'd make it easier for people to agree on a price. Most crypto coins don't have a large enough market to determine the exact value of them.
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March 11, 2015, 06:55:43 PM |
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Is there a thread where people can ask for price checks of physical crypto coins or a place that has the average prices listed? I'd like to see one as it'd make it easier for people to agree on a price. Most crypto coins don't have a large enough market to determine the exact value of them.
Agreed. There are so many times where someone has a coin on offer and I have no clue what to bid.
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Possum577
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March 11, 2015, 07:16:43 PM |
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Is there a thread where people can ask for price checks of physical crypto coins or a place that has the average prices listed? I'd like to see one as it'd make it easier for people to agree on a price. Most crypto coins don't have a large enough market to determine the exact value of them.
Agreed. There are so many times where someone has a coin on offer and I have no clue what to bid. I've tried to get people to agree on a stable valuation for the different coins, but honestly it's not realistic. It's not right to control prices like that. It's all about what a buyer and a seller agree upon. Personally I believe a 2-3x valuation is appropriate for a loaded Casascius coin in mint condition. You're paying 1x for the face value of the coin and 1-2x for the numismatic value that is "Casascius". There is some information you can use to help you understand what to bid, based on the size of the mintage (some coins have lower mint numbers and therefore are more rare). You also want to consider the condition of the coin. This is the most concise source I've used: http://www.spotcoins.com/bitcoin/casascius
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March 11, 2015, 07:26:47 PM |
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Is there a thread where people can ask for price checks of physical crypto coins or a place that has the average prices listed? I'd like to see one as it'd make it easier for people to agree on a price. Most crypto coins don't have a large enough market to determine the exact value of them.
Agreed. There are so many times where someone has a coin on offer and I have no clue what to bid. I've tried to get people to agree on a stable valuation for the different coins, but honestly it's not realistic. It's not right to control prices like that. It's all about what a buyer and a seller agree upon. Personally I believe a 2-3x valuation is appropriate for a loaded Casascius coin in mint condition. You're paying 1x for the face value of the coin and 1-2x for the numismatic value that is "Casascius". There is some information you can use to help you understand what to bid, based on the size of the mintage (some coins have lower mint numbers and therefore are more rare). You also want to consider the condition of the coin. This is the most concise source I've used: http://www.spotcoins.com/bitcoin/casasciusI think it's be appropriate so the seller isn't getting scammed out of their money and they have a ballpark estimate of what the coin is worth and they can use that base price as a guideline whether they want to pay higher or lower for it. It's really easy to just claim a price on a coin or collectible and someone will pay or sell at that price because they are misinformed of the actual item and the seller or buyer knows that and takes advantage of them.
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March 11, 2015, 07:40:36 PM |
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Personally I believe a 2-3x valuation is appropriate for a loaded Casascius coin in mint condition. You're paying 1x for the face value of the coin and 1-2x for the numismatic value that is "Casascius".
Are you looking to sell for 2x face value or what
I see this often enough that I feel like I need to address it. The value of a collectible coin doesn't have anything to do with its face value."2x face value", etc, is simply not how coins are priced, and it doesn't make sense to say things like this. Here's how a coin is priced: <intrinsic value> + <numismatic value> + <seller's premium> = <price of coin> For bullion coins, like Krugerrands or silver Maple Leafs, the intrinsic value is the value of the metal. For a Casascius coin, the intrinsic value is the face value plus the value of any precious metals. The numismatic value is the amount of additional money the coin would fetch, based on its rarity or desirability as a collectible. The seller's premium is the profit margin of the seller. Note how there are no multiplication (x) symbols in the above equation; only plus (+) symbols. Using the "?x face value" system does nothing but help people with high-face value coins rip off the general coin-buying public. "Buy my 10btc coin for 30btc -- only 3x face value! It's just like getting an 0.5btc coin for 1.5btc!" -- this glosses over the fact that the seller is asking a TWENTY BTC PREMIUM for a coin that's not even one of the most rare Casascius coins. Think about that. Even at today's exchange rates, that's a TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLAR premium. For a privately-minted round issued in 2013. Go into a coin store and tell them about this, watch their jaw hit the floor. Something to think about This "x face value" gibberish is one of the more enduring stupidities around this place (no offense, possum...)
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March 11, 2015, 07:41:21 PM |
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I think it's be appropriate so the seller isn't getting scammed out of their money and they have a ballpark estimate of what the coin is worth and they can use that base price as a guideline whether they want to pay higher or lower for it. It's really easy to just claim a price on a coin or collectible and someone will pay or sell at that price because they are misinformed of the actual item and the seller or buyer knows that and takes advantage of them.
Anyone who purchases a collectible item without knowing its value is a fool.
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March 11, 2015, 07:52:57 PM |
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I think it's be appropriate so the seller isn't getting scammed out of their money and they have a ballpark estimate of what the coin is worth and they can use that base price as a guideline whether they want to pay higher or lower for it. It's really easy to just claim a price on a coin or collectible and someone will pay or sell at that price because they are misinformed of the actual item and the seller or buyer knows that and takes advantage of them.
Anyone who purchases a collectible item without knowing its value is a fool. Price guides + becketts are the reason people are informed of the price of collectibles. They arent only used for trading guidance either but a number of other things. Without price guides the exact situation would happen as it is here where people are confused on the price of something and then they get ripped off. It's hard to put prices on crypto coins because of the limited market for them but there is a ball park estimate of what each coin is worth.
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March 11, 2015, 11:25:36 PM |
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It's a free market, I don't think anybody is "scammed" or ripped off if they voluntarily buy something- no one forced them to buy it. A collectible item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Obviously people are going to try and get the most money they can when selling their items- because life costs money and they're trying to make money. If I'm selling a Casascius coin and someone offers me 2BTC and another person offers me 3BTC, who do you think I would sell it to? The person paying 3BTC obviously. Now if someone said- "3BTC is too much for me to pay for a Casascius coin, I think I'm going to look other places for a better price," then good for them- that is their choice and their option to do so as a consumer in a free market. No one held a gun to their head and forced them to buy that coin for 3BTC.
Just my opinion.
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March 12, 2015, 01:38:30 AM |
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Price guides + becketts are the reason people are informed of the price of collectibles. They arent only used for trading guidance either but a number of other things. Without price guides the exact situation would happen as it is here where people are confused on the price of something and then they get ripped off. It's hard to put prices on crypto coins because of the limited market for them but there is a ball park estimate of what each coin is worth.
Fair enough, you're right on both counts. These things are harder to price than bitcoins themselves
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