OKPAY is scam (probably not)

[rjk]

Only the fact that they list an A record followed by a MX record that's exactly the same hostname as the A on their SPF says everything. The +all at the end is just the icing on the cake lol

It's possible for both values to be different, and happens often with large installations.

Your statement would only be true if they used IP addresses. Given that they are using a hostname using the same value on both is redundant, even if the hostname resolves to 10 IP addresses.
I didn't word it correctly, sorry about that. I fixed my statement on the above quote.

No, I could have an A for mail.example.com pointing to 192.168.1.1 and an MX for mail.example.com pointing to not-mail.example.com, and not-mail.example.com could be on a different IP address (192.168.1.2). Yes, in this case it may not make sense, since they are the same, but it allows for the MX for mail.regall.net to be on a different host and still send mail.

I won't get into why this is a bad idea though, too much ot.

[Raoul Duke]

Only the fact that they list an A record followed by a MX record that's exactly the same hostname as the A on their SPF says everything. The +all at the end is just the icing on the cake lol

It's possible for both values to be different, and happens often with large installations.

Your statement would only be true if they used IP addresses. Given that they are using a hostname using the same value on both is redundant, even if the hostname resolves to 10 IP addresses.
I didn't word it correctly, sorry about that. I fixed my statement on the above quote.

No, I could have an A for mail.example.com pointing to 192.168.1.1 and an MX for mail.example.com pointing to not-mail.example.com, and not-mail.example.com could be on a different IP address (192.168.1.2). Yes, in this case it may not make sense, since they are the same, but it allows for the MX for mail.regall.net to be on a different host and still send mail.

I won't get into why this is a bad idea though, too much ot.

Have you noticed that the MX record for mail.regall.net is empty, as in non-existant?
They probably meant to say mx:regall.net
And you are correct, in this case it doesn't make sense. And it's about THIS case we are talking about.
This would work "v=spf1 a mx ip4:173.224.112.179 ~all" and it would save external servers from resolving hostnames to find the IP addresses.

They would probably do a better job if they asked their mail service provider to write the SPF for them instead of just guessing.

But yeah, I'll just STFU and let them be.

[feebs]

i like to update this post, it is now december 7, 2013

the short message is: okpay is a scammer company who is keeping my wired funds of $2000 and ignoring me of all my support tickets, i am not alone, other folks in this forum are also waiting for their funds to get credited, the sad story is - most likely we will never get credited, okpay need to be arrested by the authorities/anti-fraud/anti-scam group

sadly there will be more victims, so this is my way of sharing to everyone who reads this - wait for a good reputable bitcoin/altcoin exchange - the top exchanges right now are questionable and risky

here is my story:

i am a victim of okpay which i used to fund my btc-e account, btc-e introduced me to okpay, its the lowest way to fund my btc-e account, i inquired to okpay and they were quick to answer, once i sent my funds by wire, that's it, goodbye money, they do not answer anymore, they ignore my support tickets, and delete any new support tickets i make

i called their phone no. and it turns out to be just an answering machine and london phone no. that is an answering machine

i check their office address and its a po box number in the british virgin island - very convenient to hide from the authorities and the from the police

i make several more support tickets and okpay deletes my new support tickets

they have a forum.okpay.com - posted complaints there - after a few hours - they have a forum admin who cleans up all the negative post, so its always clean, a shiny forum of forum.okpay.com - all negative post deleted, victims go here and they will see okpay is such a good company - beware they are not, they are a scammer company

the tipping point of how i know i was scammed is this article about btc-e:  http://www.coindesk.com/btc-e-exchange-banking-issues/

this tells me a lot about btc-e and okpay and any bitcoin exchange who uses okpay - one such exchange is the famous  mtgox.com

you can fund your mtgox.com account using okpay - if you do - most likely you will be a victim as well

some say okpay is a selective scammer, search reddit.com - selective or not - okpay is still scammer, doing selective scamming gives them plus points in forums from okpay customers who are not victims - a scammer company strategy

okpay is also in ripoffreport.com

okpay to my surprise has a green color in mywot.com - which makes mywot.com a flawed reputation tool - i believe you can buy yourself reputation points in this site (green color as of nov-dec 2013)

sadly i did all this checking after i got rip offed my $2000 by this scammer okpay.com

life lesson for me - hope you get to read this.. before sending any money to okpay

[malaimult]

i like to update this post, it is now december 7, 2013

the short message is: okpay is a scammer company who is keeping my wired funds of $2000 and ignoring me of all my support tickets, i am not alone, other folks in this forum are also waiting for their funds to get credited, the sad story is - most likely we will never get credited, okpay need to be arrested by the authorities/anti-fraud/anti-scam group

sadly there will be more victims, so this is my way of sharing to everyone who reads this - wait for a good reputable bitcoin/altcoin exchange - the top exchanges right now are questionable and risky

here is my story:

i am a victim of okpay which i used to fund my btc-e account, btc-e introduced me to okpay, its the lowest way to fund my btc-e account, i inquired to okpay and they were quick to answer, once i sent my funds by wire, that's it, goodbye money, they do not answer anymore, they ignore my support tickets, and delete any new support tickets i make

i called their phone no. and it turns out to be just an answering machine and london phone no. that is an answering machine

i check their office address and its a po box number in the british virgin island - very convenient to hide from the authorities and the from the police

i make several more support tickets and okpay deletes my new support tickets

they have a forum.okpay.com - posted complaints there - after a few hours - they have a forum admin who cleans up all the negative post, so its always clean, a shiny forum of forum.okpay.com - all negative post deleted, victims go here and they will see okpay is such a good company - beware they are not, they are a scammer company

the tipping point of how i know i was scammed is this article about btc-e:  http://www.coindesk.com/btc-e-exchange-banking-issues/

this tells me a lot about btc-e and okpay and any bitcoin exchange who uses okpay - one such exchange is the famous  mtgox.com

you can fund your mtgox.com account using okpay - if you do - most likely you will be a victim as well

some say okpay is a selective scammer, search reddit.com - selective or not - okpay is still scammer, doing selective scamming gives them plus points in forums from okpay customers who are not victims - a scammer company strategy

okpay is also in ripoffreport.com

okpay to my surprise has a green color in mywot.com - which makes mywot.com a flawed reputation tool - i believe you can buy yourself reputation points in this site (green color as of nov-dec 2013)

sadly i did all this checking after i got rip offed my $2000 by this scammer okpay.com

life lesson for me - hope you get to read this.. before sending any money to okpay

sad to hear that. i got 5600 in okpay and so far no problems at all. 2 year customer and almost 43k in transactions. got virtual and psychical debit card. its true i have to declare my money every 2 months but in rest all is ok so far.
i hope will stay that way

[feebs]

lucky you - for me okpay selected me to be scammed

[lcharles123]

Got it also, from support@okpay.com.

The email wording made it sound like someone who was pissed about the account being frozen, but it's very possible it was frozen for legitimate reasons. And definitely hacking their email server is not cool... so I'd reserve judgement either way in this case.

Many people WOT reported having their accounts frozen.
In addition to the support service is a drug.
Could it be that the money deposited in OKPAY is to a very high risk of being stolen?
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/okpay.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=rw-viewsc#page-1

[crypto97]

I don't know? I use OK PAY all of the time and it is a main payment system for many legitimate Bitcoin platforms. 

[jessica-smart]

i use sometimes okpay , 15700 usd inside my account , i never had any problem using their services (virtual credit card + physical credit card). May be you used a phishing link .

[M28MmickT]

Not a scam but terrible customer service  and near impossible verification for me even though i am fully verified with moneypolo with same id. gave up on them in the end probably not scam but just shit and wouldnt trust shit with a penny

[erikalui]

The email is just a scam to get the login details of a user. I don't own an apple iphone but still get mails saying that your account needs verification LOL. This is just to get the login details and the moment you login to your account from that link, your balanced is transferred automatically. One needs to beware of such phishing emails.

[fox19891989]

OKPAY is decent but it requires lots of documents, with very inefficient customer services, I did the identity verification for a week. And one of okpay recommended exchange is a scam.

[OtaconX]

OKPAY just started to work under Cyprus license. I found this info on their website in news section. Does any one know how it will effect on online banking?