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April 13, 2012, 01:53:07 PM
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Shoving your kids in daycare and public school all day, everyday is not raising your children. Sorry. All you are creating is severely institutionalized individuals. Sadly, we are only going to see more of it with a further increasing cost-of-living, innovation and companies leaving the first-world and so forth.

In the eyes of the banking elite, both parents working towards an ever-consuming, indebted household, this is just a huge wet dream. It only enables further control and dependence along with more labor going towards their benefit.

If you just shove your kid in some institution all week and call them your kid:

Why did you even bother having them? What is the point?

Also, the whole "women's rights" propaganda about having both parents working as a matter of "justice" and "equality" is a load of bollocks.

The fact is in a reasonable economy, we should only need one parent working, period, man or woman. We were a first-world country at one point but now we are degrading to where we have whole families working to just sustain.

Why do you think children slave over factory work elsewhere? Because they are developing.

Here it's because we are regressing.

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April 13, 2012, 02:05:30 PM
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is this why you turned out this way?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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April 13, 2012, 02:11:05 PM
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is this why you turned out this way?
Three years of bootcamp, verbal abuse and in-school suspension for not doing homework can do a number on you.

However, fortunately, I had a stay-at-home portion for a good portion of my early life. She read with me often. She gave me countless opportunities to try new things. She gave me a great foundation.

I never saw my father though. He worked far too often.

Anyways, I would prefer every child to have the care and dedication of a true nurturing mother/father and not some random social worker.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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April 13, 2012, 02:17:26 PM
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is this why you turned out this way?
Three years of bootcamp, verbal abuse and in-school suspension for not doing homework can do a number on you.

However, fortunately, I had a stay-at-home portion for a good portion of my early life. She read with me often. She gave me countless opportunities to try new things. She gave me a great foundation.

I never saw my father though. He worked far too often.

Anyways, I would prefer every child to have the care and dedication of a true nurturing mother/father and not some random social worker.
then im all for "creating severely institutionalized individuals", if the alternative is someone like you.

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April 13, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
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is this why you turned out this way?
Three years of bootcamp, verbal abuse and in-school suspension for not doing homework can do a number on you.

However, fortunately, I had a stay-at-home portion for a good portion of my early life. She read with me often. She gave me countless opportunities to try new things. She gave me a great foundation.

I never saw my father though. He worked far too often.

Anyways, I would prefer every child to have the care and dedication of a true nurturing mother/father and not some random social worker.
then im all for "creating severely institutionalized individuals", if the alternative is someone like you.

What don't you prefer about me, heh?

I think I am a pretty stand-up guy. I respect all of you guys.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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April 13, 2012, 02:19:34 PM
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is this why you turned out this way?
Three years of bootcamp, verbal abuse and in-school suspension for not doing homework can do a number on you.

However, fortunately, I had a stay-at-home portion for a good portion of my early life. She read with me often. She gave me countless opportunities to try new things. She gave me a great foundation.

I never saw my father though. He worked far too often.

Anyways, I would prefer every child to have the care and dedication of a true nurturing mother/father and not some random social worker.

LOL. Fucking do your homework. And staying home creates a mentally and socially handicapped person. No wonder you turned this way.
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April 13, 2012, 02:20:31 PM
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What don't you prefer about me, heh?

I think I am a pretty stand-up guy. I respect all of you guys.

You're mentally handicapped?
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April 13, 2012, 02:22:35 PM
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is this why you turned out this way?
Three years of bootcamp, verbal abuse and in-school suspension for not doing homework can do a number on you.

However, fortunately, I had a stay-at-home portion for a good portion of my early life. She read with me often. She gave me countless opportunities to try new things. She gave me a great foundation.

I never saw my father though. He worked far too often.

Anyways, I would prefer every child to have the care and dedication of a true nurturing mother/father and not some random social worker.

LOL. Fucking do your homework. And staying home creates a mentally and socially handicapped person. No wonder you turned this way.

Non sequitor. I don't stay home.

Additionally, the homework was bureaucracy. I aced the tests. I had no reason to do it thus I felt it was my duty to not do it.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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April 13, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
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What don't you prefer about me, heh?

I think I am a pretty stand-up guy. I respect all of you guys.

You're mentally handicapped?
see atlas people hate you.

i hate you because you apply black-OR-white logic in every thing you say, and you conclusions are stupid, childish and wrong, and you think you are the most popular and knowledgeable person in the world, when you are not.


but keep on WINNING!

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April 13, 2012, 02:24:15 PM
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What don't you prefer about me, heh?

I think I am a pretty stand-up guy. I respect all of you guys.

You're mentally handicapped?

Heh, that would make you feel good, wouldn't it? I am far from mentally handicapped. My investments perform all too well.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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April 13, 2012, 02:26:28 PM
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What don't you prefer about me, heh?

I think I am a pretty stand-up guy. I respect all of you guys.

You're mentally handicapped?
see atlas people hate you.

i hate you because you apply black-OR-white logic in every thing you say, and you conclusions are stupid, childish and wrong, and you think you are the most popular and knowledgeable person in the world, when you are not.


but keep on WINNING!

No examples. No reasoning. Just statements.

Also, your internet persona hates me. Internet personas hate me. In real life, people adore me.

I am awesome, I know I am awesome and you resent that.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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April 13, 2012, 02:28:38 PM
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Heh, that would make you feel good, wouldn't it? I am far from mentally handicapped. My investments perform all too well.

No, it makes me sad. I have nothing against you, but a lot of posts that you made were complete rubbish.
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April 13, 2012, 02:36:58 PM
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I am awesome, I know I am awesome and you resent that.
keep telling yourself that.
in real life, when people say something like that, its because they are narcissistic assholes, who have no friends.

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April 13, 2012, 02:42:08 PM
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Heh, that would make you feel good, wouldn't it? I am far from mentally handicapped. My investments perform all too well.

No, it makes me sad. I have nothing against you, but a lot of posts that you made were complete rubbish.

They were likely not rubbish. You simply didn't prefer the means/ends. What didn't you like about my posts?


The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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April 13, 2012, 02:43:37 PM
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I am awesome, I know I am awesome and you resent that.
keep telling yourself that.
in real life, when people say something like that, its because they are narcissistic assholes, who have no friends.
It's called self-respect. It's called enjoying your own company.

Let's say I had no friends -- it would be of little relevance. I would still be happy.

Is it better to put all others above yourself? Is it better to sacrifice?

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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April 13, 2012, 03:11:42 PM
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I'm with jon.

People should take their families seriously - I see so many in my country who have 1-2 kids and then spend all their time travelling the world and in all ways possible wasting the limited resources available to mankind right now.

Our culture has degraded from a proud socialist working culture where you got educated, worked hard and when you were old or down on your luck you would get help.
I remember my old math teacher who would teach more than all the other teachers even if he qualified for a handicap pension.

Now its all "me-want", "me-deserve" and "paperwork/covering your ass instead of responsibility".


Anyway a working mother can't raise the 5-10 kids she biologically needs to to help the species along. Some people die or are unsuccessful, with 1-2 kids you can only go downhill.

My grandmother was a major and she took a lot of time off while she was having kids (3, good enough) so it really doesn't need to be as degrading as its portrayed today.

All these fancy travels, empty houses and oversized cars we are sacrificing our future for don't make anyone truly happy.


Our public schools are horrible too, just now they are trying to get my little cousin on medicine because he is so bored out of his skull by their slow teaching.
I'm not sure homeschooling alone is the best as kids need social interaction, but a re-think is necessary for sure.

What the f kind of society puts KIDS on medication if they don't fit in!?

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April 13, 2012, 03:22:22 PM
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I'm with Jon too.

My wife and I switched to part-time work when we had children. We've never regretted it, and the children are happy and well-adjusted. Plus they've learned all about living economically.
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April 13, 2012, 03:34:09 PM
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They were likely not rubbish. You simply didn't prefer the means/ends. What didn't you like about my posts?

You bitch about everything that forces you to do work. You just want for someone to take care of you.
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April 13, 2012, 03:37:30 PM
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They were likely not rubbish. You simply didn't prefer the means/ends. What didn't you like about my posts?

You bitch about everything that forces you to do work. You just want for someone to take care of you.

I don't see any examples of that. I live to take care of myself. I work over 30 hours a week. I hunt. I am very self-sufficient.

I bitch about everything that forces me to work for wasteful programs, wars and violence I don't support: Taxes.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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April 13, 2012, 04:08:38 PM
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They were likely not rubbish. You simply didn't prefer the means/ends. What didn't you like about my posts?

You bitch about everything that forces you to do work. You just want for someone to take care of you.

I don't see any examples of that. I live to take care of myself. I work over 30 hours a week. I hunt. I am very self-sufficient.

I bitch about everything that forces me to work for wasteful programs, wars and violence I don't support: Taxes.

That's why you need a semi-auto rifle? To hunt?
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