Obama on ISIS: 'We Don't Have a Strategy Yet'

[zolace]

My God!  This country is so screwed with this incompetent POS at the helm.  Listened to his press conference....no mention of destroying ISIS...just more of the same silliness in regards to containing them.   The only way to stop these savages is by killing them all.

Obama: ‘We Don't Have a Strategy Yet’

In a statement from the White House on Thursday, President Obama addressed the world on fire. ISIS terrorists are losing arms and equipment because of U.S. strikes, Obama said, adding that “our focus right now is to protect American personnel on the ground in Iraq.” However, he also cautioned against rushing in. "I don't want to put the cart before the horse, we don't have a strategy yet," he said. The Daily Beast reported that the president asked for a war plan for ISIS in Syria by Friday. On the topic of the slow-motion invasion of Ukraine by Russia, Obama placed full blame on Moscow. “Russia is responsible for the violence in East Ukraine,” he said. The number of Russian troops fighting in Ukraine has swollen to over 10,000, according to a pro-Russian rebel leader, and a Ukrainian official claimed that Russian tanks fired at a border post on Thursday then moved into Ukraine.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/08/28/obama-talks-ukraine-isis.html

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[Mr.Bitty]

Unbelievable, isn't it?  When will he have a strategy? After they blow up New York or Las Vegas?  Maybe then?

[noviapriani]

If we wait long enough, maybe they'll kill each other off.
Fighting in Syria spawns separate civil war in global jihadist movement
The civil war in Syria has spawned another civil war in the global jihadist movement, with Islamic State, ruled by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (l.), and Al Qaeda, led by Ayman al-Zawahiri, (r.), emerging as sworn enemies.

Syria’s bloody civil war has spawned a separate rift with ramifications well beyond the region known as the Levant -- a battle for the very soul of the global jihad movement.

Islamic militants who poured into the embattled nation to help the Free Syrian Army in its bid to topple dictator Bashar Assad are now fighting Assad, the rebels and each other in a barbaric free-for-all. At the center is the split between Al Qaeda’s regional affiliate, Jabhat al-Nusra, and the newly emerged Islamic State, which are fighting each other on the battlefield and in the war for recruits to the cause of Islamic terrorism.


“The two groups are now in an open war for supremacy of the global jihadist movement,” according to Middle East scholar Aaron Zelin in a research paper published by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a U.S.-based think tank.

Throw in the jihadist-led insurgency in neighboring Iraq, which has become intertwined in the insurrection in Syria, and the shifting alliances are becoming for many even harder to understand.

    “The two groups are now in an open war for supremacy of the global jihadist movement.”

    - Aaron Zelin, Middle east scholar

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/28/fighting-in-syria-spawns-separate-civil-war-in-global-jihadist-movement/

[zolace]

Unbelievable, isn't it?  When will he have a strategy? After they blow up New York or Las Vegas?  Maybe then?

Yes,unbelievable, only if George Bush stop and think things over before diving into Iraq head first. Obama do not need to rush just to satisfy your thirst for blood.

[Chef Ramsay]

I caution you to look beneath the surface on this one. Prez 0 has always had a strategy for everything which has led us to where we are financially and he certainly did his own thing in Egypt and Libya. Now there's this meme of no strategy and golf everyday, which to me, is allowing the neoconservative elements to play this up in the right wing media and get their intervention message trending once again. I'm hearing the same talking points as prior to us going into Iraq and only now, these are the new and improved terrorists. There's been a concerted effort to use covert ops to arm and train these guys to go up against Assad while allegedly not knowing they would turn and start a bigger crusade as we have been seeing. Either way, this was a set up by those bipartisan interests in the MIC to create something big where something was small and give them everything they needed to succeed and draw us back into the fold. The average American and even a majority of republicans were growing sick of the war expenditures and Rand Paul was trending. Quite a coincidence that all this is timing and unfolding in such a period leading into the next primary season. Just when the war hawks were fading now we have the perfect storm to get them trending again. Furthermore, the US needs another war to showcase to the domestic audience to hide the dismal conditions elsewhere. This shell game isn't going to end well.

[umair127]

If we wait long enough, maybe they'll kill each other off.
Fighting in Syria spawns separate civil war in global jihadist movement
The civil war in Syria has spawned another civil war in the global jihadist movement, with Islamic State, ruled by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (l.), and Al Qaeda, led by Ayman al-Zawahiri, (r.), emerging as sworn enemies.

Syria’s bloody civil war has spawned a separate rift with ramifications well beyond the region known as the Levant -- a battle for the very soul of the global jihad movement.

Islamic militants who poured into the embattled nation to help the Free Syrian Army in its bid to topple dictator Bashar Assad are now fighting Assad, the rebels and each other in a barbaric free-for-all. At the center is the split between Al Qaeda’s regional affiliate, Jabhat al-Nusra, and the newly emerged Islamic State, which are fighting each other on the battlefield and in the war for recruits to the cause of Islamic terrorism.


“The two groups are now in an open war for supremacy of the global jihadist movement,” according to Middle East scholar Aaron Zelin in a research paper published by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a U.S.-based think tank.

Throw in the jihadist-led insurgency in neighboring Iraq, which has become intertwined in the insurrection in Syria, and the shifting alliances are becoming for many even harder to understand.

    “The two groups are now in an open war for supremacy of the global jihadist movement.”

    - Aaron Zelin, Middle east scholar

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/28/fighting-in-syria-spawns-separate-civil-war-in-global-jihadist-movement/

Are you kidding? Have you read the history of the ME and their nonstop wars over the last 1400 years? They have been killing each other for centuries and no matter how many die they keep killing and killing and killing and killing. You would think that by now all the muzzies would be killed off and the moderate muslims would be in control but that hasn't happened. Egypt is trying and just might succeed if the US stays out of their way and stops promoting the MB. The one thing we can be hopeful about is that all the muzzie killers will be in the same place killing each other when obama finally decides to blast them all to eternity, that way we can knock off two sets of radicals for the price of one.

[bryant.coleman]

The right title would be Obama on ISIS: "I don't care about them".

He is spending time playing golf and going on vacations to Hawaii, while the ISIS is butchering Yazidis, Turkmens and Christians in the areas which they now control. As long as the oil flows from Iraq, Obama wouldn't mind the ISIS. And why risk alienating some of your best friends (Saudis and Qataris), who are actively supporting the ISIS?

[jcoin200]

Hahaha this has been his "strategy" on every single issue.  Make lots of wild promises, and when anything starts to catch up with them, mvoe on to the next distraction.  Funny thing is he still has supporters.

[johncarpe64]

The right title would be Obama on ISIS: "I don't care about them".

He is spending time playing golf and going on vacations to Hawaii, while the ISIS is butchering Yazidis, Turkmens and Christians in the areas which they now control. As long as the oil flows from Iraq, Obama wouldn't mind the ISIS. And why risk alienating some of your best friends (Saudis and Qataris), who are actively supporting the ISIS?

I agree with your title. Obama is almost actively allowing the ISIS to continue to take over Iraq and commit genocide.

I would argue that the ISIS never crossed any "red line" because they were never on the other side of it. It could not be a simpler/easier choice to at the absolute least use airstrikes against them.

[bryant.coleman]

I would argue that the ISIS never crossed any "red line" because they were never on the other side of it. It could not be a simpler/easier choice to at the absolute least use airstrikes against them.

If Obama was serious about the ISIS, then he should have at least allowed arms shipment to the Kurdish Peshmerga. The Kurds are fighting the heavily armed ISIS with just light weapons and medieval ammunition. And trust me, to this date mercenaries from the EU and the Middle East are crossing in to Syria through the Turkish-Syrian border.

[shogdite]

What strategy does everyone want? Another war in Iraq? Worked out great the last few times the US intervened

ISIS is pretty much a zero threat to the US mainland, talk of blowing up New York is just scaremongering bullshit. No doubt something needs to be done, would have thought Obama could send in special ops to assassinate the leaders of these psychos.

[countryfree]

Of course, he doesn't have a strategy, but the real situation is much worse than that. The question to ask is who has a strategy?
I don't think a single head of state has one, but the American president is the closest to have one, since he decided in favor of air raids, but against sending troops. That's a start.

Besides the US, I'm waiting for Turkey to have a clear strategy, as it will be the first to suffer if there's a large islamic caliphate next to its border.
What about Egypt?

[bryant.coleman]

ISIS is pretty much a zero threat to the US mainland, talk of blowing up New York is just scaremongering bullshit. No doubt something needs to be done, would have thought Obama could send in special ops to assassinate the leaders of these psychos.

You are wrong. There are hundreds of American citizens among the ISIS fighters, and the NSA don't have information about all of them. Some of them could slip back in to the US, re-organize themselves and can commit serious terrorist attacks there. They may not be able to blow up New York, but these people are surely capable of doing some nasty stuff.

[RICHBOSS]

Obama's just watching 2 journalists beheaded. No action for now.

[hangar18]

Last time islamist terrorists provoked the US(9/11) they got the US to create a power vacuum in the middle east that allowed groups like ISIS to emerge. Best case for groups like ISIS is that the US goes in again, fucks something up, retreats and creates more instability that they can exploit

[bryant.coleman]

Last time islamist terrorists provoked the US(9/11) they got the US to create a power vacuum in the middle east that allowed groups like ISIS to emerge. Best case for groups like ISIS is that the US goes in again, fucks something up, retreats and creates more instability that they can exploit

Without the financial, technical and manpower support from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, ISIS is nothing. If Obama is serious about stopping the ISIS threat, then he can stop them within a few days. Just tell those Saudis and Qataris to stop supporting ISIS. But off course, he will not do that, as the US wants to topple Assad in the first place.

[meadefreling]

Last time islamist terrorists provoked the US(9/11) they got the US to create a power vacuum in the middle east that allowed groups like ISIS to emerge. Best case for groups like ISIS is that the US goes in again, fucks something up, retreats and creates more instability that they can exploit

Without the financial, technical and manpower support from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, ISIS is nothing. If Obama is serious about stopping the ISIS threat, then he can stop them within a few days. Just tell those Saudis and Qataris to stop supporting ISIS. But off course, he will not do that, as the US wants to topple Assad in the first place.

May be a repeat of September 11 twin bombing will make Obama spring up a strategy to stopping this bunch of blood drunk extremists called ISIS instead of running for first place ranking.

[oceans]

I personally do not believe they ever have a strategy to be fair. They always go in head first without thinking hoping that it will help and it always comes back to haunt them in the end. I understand that at the moment the situation they are in is pretty bad but going in all guns blazing is not going to help anyone in my opinion. He really does need a strategy and one that is better than what he is doing now.

[countryfree]

Seems the mood is changing in Washington:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rise-of-islamic-state-tests-gop-anti-interventionists/2014/09/03/efbe6b86-3382-11e4-9e92-0899b306bbea_story.html

I believe Obama will have a strategy soon, it just takes time to weigh all the options. How much American critics if he send troops? How much bad press all over the Middle East? How will moderate muslims will react, in America and in Europe?

[Fabrizio89]

I don't think that's the case, they are just waiting to see how things will play out as there are so many big question marks around there, it's not only about middle east. Anyway ISIS and Maliki's side are causing so much problems there it's actually a good thing for US, when they will cease to be a useful asset he will then say what his strategy is.