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September 02, 2014, 06:12:08 PM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes, yet now they're offering 3 tiers of cloud hosting, including 3TH/s for less than $1,000 per month. (1/13 the cost of the Neptunes) Unlike the still shipping Neptunes, you don't have to pay for shipping or power costs.

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September 02, 2014, 06:28:08 PM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes, yet now they're offering 3 tiers of cloud hosting, including 3TH/s for less than $1,000 per month. (1/13 the cost of the Neptunes) Unlike the still shipping Neptunes, you don't have to pay for shipping or power costs.

It is too bad that people paid $13,000 for KNC Neptunes that haven't started mining. It will mine around 10 BTC, which is worth less than half of that now.

BTW, even KNC's price of $1.79 assumes a pretty optimistic prediction for the rise in the difficulty. I wouldn't pay more than $1.50 per GH/s.

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September 02, 2014, 06:31:24 PM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes, yet now they're offering 3 tiers of cloud hosting, including 3TH/s for less than $1,000 per month. (1/13 the cost of the Neptunes) Unlike the still shipping Neptunes, you don't have to pay for shipping or power costs.

Please discuss.

It is too bad that people paid $13,000 for the KNC Neptune. It will mine around 10 BTC, which is worth less than half of that now.

BTW, even KNC's price of $1.79 assumes a pretty optimistic prediction for the rise in the difficulty. I wouldn't pay more than $1.50 per GH/s.

I'm not sure how you get 10BTC, but monthly you'll get a smidgen over 1.65BTC.

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September 02, 2014, 06:53:50 PM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes, yet now they're offering 3 tiers of cloud hosting, including 3TH/s for less than $1,000 per month. (1/13 the cost of the Neptunes) Unlike the still shipping Neptunes, you don't have to pay for shipping or power costs.

It is too bad that people paid $13,000 for KNC Neptunes that haven't started mining. It will mine around 10 BTC, which is worth less than half of that now.

BTW, even KNC's price of $1.79 assumes a pretty optimistic prediction for the rise in the difficulty. I wouldn't pay more than $1.50 per GH/s.

Whats even worse is that is only 6 month contracts...at least Cex.io lets you buy and sell for indefinite periods of time...
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September 02, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes, yet now they're offering 3 tiers of cloud hosting, including 3TH/s for less than $1,000 per month. (1/13 the cost of the Neptunes) Unlike the still shipping Neptunes, you don't have to pay for shipping or power costs.

Please discuss.

It is too bad that people paid $13,000 for the KNC Neptune. It will mine around 10 BTC, which is worth less than half of that now.

BTW, even KNC's price of $1.79 assumes a pretty optimistic prediction for the rise in the difficulty. I wouldn't pay more than $1.50 per GH/s.

I'm not sure how you get 10BTC, but monthly you'll get a smidgen over 1.65BTC.


This sucks a lot, I used to have a 50GH/s miner that pulled off this amount a month.

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September 02, 2014, 06:58:25 PM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes, yet now they're offering 3 tiers of cloud hosting, including 3TH/s for less than $1,000 per month. (1/13 the cost of the Neptunes) Unlike the still shipping Neptunes, you don't have to pay for shipping or power costs.

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KNC is major scammers and people losts a lot of money on them. dont do business with any cloud hasing bs. the GHS price drops down almost every day and just keeps going down and down. unless bitcoin prices go back up your only going to lose money
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September 02, 2014, 07:17:36 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2014, 07:29:04 PM by odolvlobo
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It is too bad that people paid $13,000 for the KNC Neptune. It will mine around 10 BTC, which is worth less than half of that now.
BTW, even KNC's price of $1.79 assumes a pretty optimistic prediction for the rise in the difficulty. I wouldn't pay more than $1.50 per GH/s.
I'm not sure how you get 10BTC, but monthly you'll get a smidgen over 1.65BTC.

I assume rising difficulty at the rate of 7% every 2016 blocks for the next year. Don't use the CoinWarz calculator. It assumes that the difficulty never changes. You might earn 1.4 BTC the first month, but you will earn much less in the following months. You will never earn 1.65 BTC monthly.


KNC is major scammers and people losts a lot of money on them. dont do business with any cloud hasing bs. the GHS price drops down almost every day and just keeps going down and down. unless bitcoin prices go back up your only going to lose money

The falling GH/s value is not the fault of KNC. You can't blame them for the difficulty increases.


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September 02, 2014, 07:28:21 PM
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There s no way to reach ROI with this KNC cloud mining offer. Real do not understand who buys this? Guess people who flunked math in elementary school.

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September 02, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
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Phew, I don't know if this really qualifies as a scam, but it definitely has a very strange aftertaste if those accusations really are true! People who pre-ordered a Neptune for FIAT indeed have lost the gamble when it comes to the BTC they're about to mine and the current Bitcoin price!

I should have gotten into Bitcoin back in 1992...
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September 02, 2014, 08:50:01 PM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes, yet now they're offering 3 tiers of cloud hosting, including 3TH/s for less than $1,000 per month. (1/13 the cost of the Neptunes) Unlike the still shipping Neptunes, you don't have to pay for shipping or power costs.

Please discuss.

Regardless, of the problems of pre-ordering, anyone who cares about Bitcoin should reframe from purchasing cloud hashing as it incentivizes bad behavior from ASIC manufacturers and doesn't address any problems with centralization.... plus its just stupid from an investment perspective... people should just buy bitcoins directly if they only care about making money.

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September 02, 2014, 09:59:29 PM
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This is a much better deal than the the Neptune, however, when i input 3TH into mining calculator, it gives 1.65 BTC per month.. so it  maybe better to directly buy Bitcoin with the money..
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September 02, 2014, 11:04:52 PM
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Wow never thought the cexio scam could be topped

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September 02, 2014, 11:21:15 PM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes

These guys are card-carrying thieves.  They used that $13,000 to build their data center while their customers got nothing.  Still no Neptune delivery.  All the while, they promised not to mine over 5% of what they sold to customers.  

On the day they announced the opening of this new Cloud Mining service, the promise not to mine over 5% was removed from the FAQ page of their website.  

Fucking Swedish Scum.  No less.

Now they hash at about 5% of the entire network - that is ALL the mining equipment EVERYONE made. 

Liars, cheaters and thieves. 

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September 02, 2014, 11:23:39 PM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes

These guys are card-carrying thieves.  They used that $13,000 to build their data center while their customers got nothing.  Still no Neptune delivery.  All the while, they promised not to mine over 5% of what they sold to customers.  

On the day they announced the opening of this new Cloud Mining service, the promise not to mine over 5% was removed from the FAQ page of their website.  

Fucking Swedish Scum.  No less.

Now they hash at about 5% of the entire network - that is ALL the mining equipment EVERYONE made. 

Liars, cheaters and thieves. 

Wow... You're right. They did.

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September 02, 2014, 11:24:29 PM
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This is a much better deal than the the Neptune, however, when i input 3TH into mining calculator, it gives 1.65 BTC per month.. so it  maybe better to directly buy Bitcoin with the money..
Just my opinion Smiley

Don't use that mining calculator. It doesn't account for difficulty changes. 3 TH/s will never generate 1.65 BTC per month.

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September 03, 2014, 02:35:36 AM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes, yet now they're offering 3 tiers of cloud hosting, including 3TH/s for less than $1,000 per month. (1/13 the cost of the Neptunes) Unlike the still shipping Neptunes, you don't have to pay for shipping or power costs.

It is too bad that people paid $13,000 for KNC Neptunes that haven't started mining. It will mine around 10 BTC, which is worth less than half of that now.

BTW, even KNC's price of $1.79 assumes a pretty optimistic prediction for the rise in the difficulty. I wouldn't pay more than $1.50 per GH/s.

Whats even worse is that is only 6 month contracts...at least Cex.io lets you buy and sell for indefinite periods of time...
The electric costs for the GH/s at cex will soon exceed the revenue they produce unless they find more efficient miners or the rate difficulty is increasing decreases substantially very soon.
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September 03, 2014, 04:11:30 AM
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6 month contract?  Shocked
Even its infinity, hard to tell when we have BEP, now only for 6 month.

Invest just for losing money, its worst than ponzi game

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September 03, 2014, 04:11:41 AM
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I would never trust KNC again for whatever reason.

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September 03, 2014, 04:37:27 AM
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After recent events they trustworthy rating is not the greatest. I would like to see this project of theirs works first, check some people's opinions and then judge.
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September 03, 2014, 05:15:44 AM
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KNC hasn't yet finished shipping their $13,000 Neptunes, yet now they're offering 3 tiers of cloud hosting, including 3TH/s for less than $1,000 per month. (1/13 the cost of the Neptunes) Unlike the still shipping Neptunes, you don't have to pay for shipping or power costs.

Please discuss.
You are comparing the monthly cost of renting their hashpower to the overall cost of owning their machine. This is like comparing apples to oranges. It is not a fair comparison.

They are essentially trying to sell off excess miners that they were unable to sell.

I ran the numbers and you would be almost certain to not ROI at the rates KnC is offering.
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