Do you download illegally?

[FlatTime]

stream but yeah same thing

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[Decksperiment]

stream but yeah same thing

I beg to differ here, to stream is to tune in to the transmission, after show is ended, you have no copy, unless of course you recorded it..

Like radio, there are radio broadcasters, and pirate radio broadcasters. You having the radio, you dont care who is transmitting what, as long as you get to hear what you want.. you are not the pirate, or the legit radio broadcaster. you tune in, njoi the show, and thats it.

However, downloading is another matter entirely.. just like recording EITHER illegal or legal broadcasts is also illegal without consent.

In my opinion, people cannot be called 'pirate's' for streaming what someone else is transmitting, unless of course, you make a copy, which makes you the pirate. Illegal streaming service's are the pirate's, not the person who tunes in.

[DodoriousMaximus]

I dont (jking im poor)

[hgerson]

In a world where digital content can be copied and pasted very easily, old laws like copyright just aren't useful anymore.  As a soon-to-be content creator myself, I've decided to roll with the donation model of business; there's no point in selling my work since the people who want to give me money, already will, and the people who don't want to give me money, get it off torrent sites.  Might as well cut out the middle man and offer content for free: it allows your content to get into as many hands as possible, which increases the odds of finding people willing to pay for your content.

Piracy can never be theft as there is no deprivation involved: if people want to pay, they will, and if they don't, they won't; it doesn't change your profits whether or not piracy gets involved.  When you steal someone's shoe, they don't have that shoe anymore; you can't steal a copy of his shoe since he still has his shoe, and you have your copy.  One could argue intellectual property in the sense that an idea exists and copying that idea without permission is wrong, but considering how great the state has been at enforcing IP law, it's pointless to consider it: whether or not you think it's right or wrong, people will copy+paste anyway.  We're amoral creatures: if we can get away with something and it benefits us, we'll do it.  We could spend years arguing over the validity of piracy, and in those years, piracy will continue: it doesn't help the content creator to take a stance.

Certain websites like Patreon have already caught onto this trend; there, people offer to pay you every time to create something.  This is great for small things like YouTube videos and comics, but what if you wanted to make something that requires a large investment to get rolling, such as a movie, or line of clothing?  You don't have to get a loan from a bank anymore, you can go to Kickstarter or Indiegogo and get funded that way.  While a pirate can copy+paste your content without your permission, he cannot take something that does not yet exist, which is one major way entertainers make money: it then becomes a service, rather than selling a digital good.

I agree with everything you posted.

[DonQuijote]

Illegally? No!
Open source rules

[JLynn171]

you can see most anything legally why download?

[lightningmccoin]

Nobody cares if I download the whole series of Breaking Bad in one day.

[davien]

No! Never! Ever! Yeaaakkss

[kingcoin111]

who doesnt? everyone who has the internet always download illegally.

[tylerdur2]

who doesnt? everyone who has the internet always download illegally.

Why. I don't assume it's illegal.

There are movies on youtube. Is that illegal?

[Frizork]

Only legal webpages, please

[Argwai96]

who doesnt? everyone who has the internet always download illegally.

Hmm, I'm not actually sure on the laws, really. I have a big collection of movies from torrents and music from P2P file sharing, but I have never been much of a seeder. These days, I mostly just stream on Netflix, Amazon Prime. In a pinch, I'll download a torrent if I can't find it streaming somewhere else.

[Bloodhoundgang]

No. too many virus.

[Argwai96]

No. too many virus.

I've never once had an issue. Generally, though, I only download media files (no applications), and from trusted/VIP uploaders + high number of seeders and downloads. You should rarely have any issues then.

But I also don't keep my bitcoins on this computer, hehe.

[lepirate]

Only legal webpages, please

The websites themselves are rarely declared "illegal", however, they assist illegal activity in forms of illegal downloading.
The sites however does not store any illegal data.

[Gimmelfarb]

who doesnt? everyone who has the internet always download illegally.

Hmm, I'm not actually sure on the laws, really. I have a big collection of movies from torrents and music from P2P file sharing, but I have never been much of a seeder. These days, I mostly just stream on Netflix, Amazon Prime. In a pinch, I'll download a torrent if I can't find it streaming somewhere else.

i'm in a similar position. hell, i hate to say it, but Amazon is so damn convenient (and i also buy discount Amazon gift cards on Purse.io and get Instant Video credits for using super saver delivery) that i often end up just spending a couple bucks to buy a movie or episode of a TV show rather than deal with dodgy streaming sites or torrents.

[$erver-X]

never thought of paying to download anything

[the_K_man]

Well I don't pay for anything I download so I guess I do download illegally 

[Crazy-Rayz]

why pay for it when you can get it free

[andycarrol]

yes because if you need legal download payment and I do not have to pay it: D