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September 03, 2014, 06:35:46 PM
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Hi,
Let's start discussion on bitcoin gaming.I already saw many provably fair dice and casino websites.But there are so many dice websites popping out.I want something unqiue and creative to start.
I want users to pay on their skills.Like skill based games.

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I couldn't agree more! I get that gambling sites have to make things work based on maths/odds/chances though if they want to make a profit or guarantee their losses. What I would like to see more of is Peer to Peer betting but that takes such a large number of people before it gains critical mass. I'd be quite happy to put up .1 BTC to compete against someone at a skill based game - if I won I would take .2 BTC minus a small game fee, if I lost I would walk away with nada.

What sort of skill based games do you like? Are you thinking card games like Solitaire? Or numbers games like Sudoku? Or something more complex?

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September 03, 2014, 06:41:31 PM
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I couldn't agree more! I get that gambling sites have to make things work based on maths/odds/chances though if they want to make a profit or guarantee their losses. What I would like to see more of is Peer to Peer betting but that takes such a large number of people before it gains critical mass. I'd be quite happy to put up .1 BTC to compete against someone at a skill based game - if I won I would take .2 BTC minus a small game fee, if I lost I would walk away with nada.

What sort of skill based games do you like? Are you thinking card games like Solitaire? Or numbers games like Sudoku? Or something more complex?

Checkers,Chess or Billiard
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September 03, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
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What about Flappy Bird game?
Users have to survive the game to double their btc address
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September 03, 2014, 07:44:03 PM
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I think there already was a multiplayer flappybird game - it was web based! Dunno if you could gamble on it or not though...

Checkers would be THE BOMB!

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September 03, 2014, 08:04:08 PM
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Skill games are hard to realize cause it ends up in who is skilled in cheating and writing the best bot. In p2p games the majority of fair players will lose interest fast and when betting against the house you have to either increase the difficulty + lower the player profits (which will annoy fair players) or work hard on anti-cheating measures and trying to prove people are indeed cheating.

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September 03, 2014, 10:50:09 PM
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are there any other bitcoin poker sites out there? i know that betco.in was recently closed down.

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September 03, 2014, 10:56:22 PM
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Skill games are hard to realize cause it ends up in who is skilled in cheating and writing the best bot. In p2p games the majority of fair players will lose interest fast and when betting against the house you have to either increase the difficulty + lower the player profits (which will annoy fair players) or work hard on anti-cheating measures and trying to prove people are indeed cheating.
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September 04, 2014, 02:41:05 AM
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I want something unqiue and creative to start. I want users to pay on their skills.Like skill based games.

What do you think?

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September 04, 2014, 02:53:00 AM
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Skill games are hard to realize cause it ends up in who is skilled in cheating and writing the best bot. In p2p games the majority of fair players will lose interest fast and when betting against the house you have to either increase the difficulty + lower the player profits (which will annoy fair players) or work hard on anti-cheating measures and trying to prove people are indeed cheating.

I disagree. There are plenty of skill games, that are extremely difficult to write a bot for. Even something like a rock-paper-scissors bot is a daunting challenge. Deviate from the nash equilibrium (a random throw), and risk being exploited. But if you play randomly, and you have only downside (assuming a rake).

I think in a game like that, there would be virtually no bots -- and a lot of players.

But yeah, there's definitely whole classes of games which aren't really suitable due to bots (e.g reflex based, and many strategy based ones)




 
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September 04, 2014, 07:08:28 AM
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I can use this type of game.In which users have to survive the game for 120 seconds.If any users successfully survive the 120 seconds he will get double of his deposited btc.If he unable to survive he will loss his btc.

Here are the screen shot

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September 04, 2014, 07:18:46 AM
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I disagree. There are plenty of skill games, that are extremely difficult to write a bot for. Even something like a rock-paper-scissors bot is a daunting challenge. Deviate from the nash equilibrium (a random throw), and risk being exploited. But if you play randomly, and you have only downside (assuming a rake).

Why do you consider rock-paper-scissors a skill game?
It is mainly luck based IMO, though if it is played face to face, you may be able to read your opponent's gesture and predict his movement.

When I think about skill games, I immediately think of games like chess and backgammon, which people have created extremely powerful bots...

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September 04, 2014, 07:26:30 AM
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I disagree. There are plenty of skill games, that are extremely difficult to write a bot for. Even something like a rock-paper-scissors bot is a daunting challenge. Deviate from the nash equilibrium (a random throw), and risk being exploited. But if you play randomly, and you have only downside (assuming a rake).

Why do you consider rock-paper-scissors a skill game?
It is mainly luck based IMO, though if it is played face to face, you may be able to read your opponent's gesture and predict his movement.

When I think about skill games, I immediately think of games like chess and backgammon, which people have created extremely powerful bots...
What do you think about above Idea
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September 04, 2014, 07:50:06 AM
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I can use this type of game.In which users have to survive the game for 120 seconds.If any users successfully survive the 120 seconds he will get double of his deposited btc.If he unable to survive he will loss his btc.

Here are the screen shot



Sounds like a great idea to me.
I would definitely like to play a round when you finish the game.

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September 04, 2014, 07:53:41 AM
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I can use this type of game.In which users have to survive the game for 120 seconds.If any users successfully survive the 120 seconds he will get double of his deposited btc.If he unable to survive he will loss his btc.

Here are the screen shot



Sounds like a great idea to me.
I would definitely like to play a round when you finish the game.

Thanks.I personally feeling it will hit.
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September 04, 2014, 07:54:54 AM
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Need to have a bitcoin based platform for games such as Starcraft, Dota, LoL, HoN, Hearthstone, CS, etc...It might not be as profitable as a dice or other casino site, but it might turn some heads.

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September 04, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
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I couldn't agree more! I get that gambling sites have to make things work based on maths/odds/chances though if they want to make a profit or guarantee their losses. What I would like to see more of is Peer to Peer betting but that takes such a large number of people before it gains critical mass. I'd be quite happy to put up .1 BTC to compete against someone at a skill based game - if I won I would take .2 BTC minus a small game fee, if I lost I would walk away with nada.

What sort of skill based games do you like? Are you thinking card games like Solitaire? Or numbers games like Sudoku? Or something more complex?

Checkers,Chess or Billiard

Playing pool and billiard is a welcomed innovation. I will gladly partake in these ones when they come on.

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September 04, 2014, 11:32:24 AM
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What about Flappy Bird game?
Users have to survive the game to double their btc address

yes I like a game that could double as Flappy bird bitcoin hard difficult it look easy Smiley
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September 04, 2014, 11:46:39 AM
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Need to have a bitcoin based platform for games such as Starcraft, Dota, LoL, HoN, Hearthstone, CS, etc...It might not be as profitable as a dice or other casino site, but it might turn some heads.

I have been trying to find out what it would take to host something like this. I have been researching it for over a year now.

Take Dota for instance:

Each team / clan pays an entrance fee, and the winner takes the pot.

Or my other one was a first person shooter. (counterstrike or Black ops)

You register on a server, then load your wallet with X amount of Bitcoin. Then each time you die, you lose a little, and for each kill you gain a little.

I guarantee this would work, And if somebody shares my vision, send me a PM and lets chat about it.
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September 04, 2014, 11:51:25 AM
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I can use this type of game.In which users have to survive the game for 120 seconds.If any users successfully survive the 120 seconds he will get double of his deposited btc.If he unable to survive he will loss his btc.

Here are the screen shot


That game is called zumba. and YES, bot exists for that.

Its not possible to make a"skill and fair game" over the Internet. Why? Because someone COULD and most probably WILL use his PC and any other thing you can imagine to gain an edge against you. Chess? I could run chessmaster on another machine next to me. Shoot the bubbles? I could code that. Counterstrike? Aimbots. You cant control it/limit it except if you are in the same room and spectators can ensure you that no one cheats.

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