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September 09, 2014, 10:01:41 PM
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Simply put, I don't trust you.

There were multiple people who hadn't been paid for the signature campaign for one. Also, most of your dealings here have been shady, hence the feedback.

Posts like this reaffirm the decision in my mind.

Tiny bullshitters arguing. Real guys do things. We're offering best and most transparent conditions for the guys who have traffic offering the only anonymous affiliate campaign where you can earn 50% of profits and receive daily payouts. You can always watch unique bet wallets that will be generated exclusively for you to check that we're clear.

Another instance, not too long ago with Updown confirming Updown.bz is an alt account.

In that case do you know why UpDown.BT posted in your thread as if the OP. I regret not screenshotting now but I can guarantee he did and subsequently deleted his post.

I would like that to be clarified thanks.
it seems this guy is not that nice  Shocked ?

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September 09, 2014, 10:52:05 PM
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UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.



I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

I've answered to Haploid below. Everybody who's go along with the rules received payments. Some people was been afraid of my disappearance and dropped signature, so maybe it's not the best behavior from my side, but I have some reasons for that, and I'm clear because, again, everybody who's go along with the rules received their payments.

You should have paid everyone who fulfilled the original deal. If they kept their signature for the month but then removed the signature, you should still pay it for that month.
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September 09, 2014, 11:47:01 PM
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UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.



I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

I've answered to Haploid below. Everybody who's go along with the rules received payments. Some people was been afraid of my disappearance and dropped signature, so maybe it's not the best behavior from my side, but I have some reasons for that, and I'm clear because, again, everybody who's go along with the rules received their payments.

U have purposefully dodged my questions. I have made them colorful so that u dont miss them this time. I dont speak Klingon and it is pure English. Moreover it seems like u have appeared in a new avatar updownbot.bz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774226.0) to dodge your -ve.

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September 11, 2014, 06:57:52 AM
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UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.



I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

I've answered to Haploid below. Everybody who's go along with the rules received payments. Some people was been afraid of my disappearance and dropped signature, so maybe it's not the best behavior from my side, but I have some reasons for that, and I'm clear because, again, everybody who's go along with the rules received their payments.

You should have paid everyone who fulfilled the original deal. If they kept their signature for the month but then removed the signature, you should still pay it for that month.

Yes, I paid everyone who fulfilled the original deal, that's the point. But if someone used signature for two days or one week instead of month it's against the rules of the deal.

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September 11, 2014, 07:01:02 AM
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UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.



I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

I've answered to Haploid below. Everybody who's go along with the rules received payments. Some people was been afraid of my disappearance and dropped signature, so maybe it's not the best behavior from my side, but I have some reasons for that, and I'm clear because, again, everybody who's go along with the rules received their payments.

U have purposefully dodged my questions. I have made them colorful so that u dont miss them this time. I dont speak Klingon and it is pure English. Moreover it seems like u have appeared in a new avatar updownbot.bz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774226.0) to dodge your -ve.

Nope, we're not affiliated at all, they're just copying us. It's a sign of success.

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September 11, 2014, 07:08:06 AM
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> Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ?

I can't be sure there, but anyway point is that users had no signature few days before end of campaign.

(BTW we're always was very easy in terms of payments, just because sometimes it was easier to pay than to check thousands of messages, so nobody was claimed as a spammers, until they was banned).

> If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ?

I wrote that anyone who kept signature will receive payment few days before payout. So everyone who have no signature will not receive payouts obviously.

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September 11, 2014, 07:14:54 AM
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Simply put, I don't trust you.

There were multiple people who hadn't been paid for the signature campaign for one. Also, most of your dealings here have been shady, hence the feedback.

Posts like this reaffirm the decision in my mind.

Tiny bullshitters arguing. Real guys do things. We're offering best and most transparent conditions for the guys who have traffic offering the only anonymous affiliate campaign where you can earn 50% of profits and receive daily payouts. You can always watch unique bet wallets that will be generated exclusively for you to check that we're clear.

Another instance, not too long ago with Updown confirming Updown.bz is an alt account.

In that case do you know why UpDown.BT posted in your thread as if the OP. I regret not screenshotting now but I can guarantee he did and subsequently deleted his post.

I would like that to be clarified thanks.
it seems this guy is not that nice  Shocked ?

To be honest with you — most of the arguing people (actually 2, and one complaining under different names because his original account is banned) is a greedy spammers, they dropped signature a week after my last answer in the thread, some of them was banned also, and they are now post in every of our topics, it's not a big deal for us to pay them, but it's better to have some balls. Many people received good payouts during the campaign, but nobody leaves good feedback in this cases.

Regarding .bz — no, we're not affiliated. They're copycats, so it's nice to be popular enough to be copied, but I just promoting our affiliate campaign to them, they have not so much instruments, so we can share some blocks with them for 50% of revenue from this blocks.

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September 11, 2014, 09:43:58 AM
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The first problem started when you advertise one rate, and pay lower. You can clearly see in the post titles what rates you were advertising. You also completely missed payments early in the campaign, which either was never fixed or ignored for a very long time. This personally affected me, but I didn't care about the amount enough to bitch about it. Others seemed pretty frustrated though. More problems stacked on, so I eventually just left:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7084146#msg7084146


Glad I left early on and avoided the shitstorm towards the middle and end.

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September 11, 2014, 11:38:15 AM
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The first problem started when you advertise one rate, and pay lower. You can clearly see in the post titles what rates you were advertising. You also completely missed payments early in the campaign, which either was never fixed or ignored for a very long time. This personally affected me, but I didn't care about the amount enough to bitch about it. Others seemed pretty frustrated though. More problems stacked on, so I eventually just left:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7084146#msg7084146


Glad I left early on and avoided the shitstorm towards the middle and end.

There are around 50 persons in the campaign, and sometimes our staff member missed that someone changed status during the campaign, but in all of this cases difference was been sent. The last member who claimed this difference was rosinlpl — and issue was solved. So if I owe you smth, just write me in PM, and I will cover this difference.

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September 11, 2014, 12:01:11 PM
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I was not in the Updown campaign, but I was keeping a close eye on the developments at the time. I remembered Updown went totally silent for at least a couple of weeks, did not confirm members or answer any questions. The campaign was not managed well (or not at all), hence resulted in a lot of disputes. Some even re-design signatures to adverstise Updown owing members money.

I believe these negative comments should stick with Updown, at least for a while longer, to remind people of what happened. Paying people back after a long delay is not a trustworthy act.
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September 11, 2014, 07:48:43 PM
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I was not in the Updown campaign, but I was keeping a close eye on the developments at the time. I remembered Updown went totally silent for at least a couple of weeks, did not confirm members or answer any questions. The campaign was not managed well (or not at all), hence resulted in a lot of disputes. Some even re-design signatures to adverstise Updown owing members money.

I believe these negative comments should stick with Updown, at least for a while longer, to remind people of what happened. Paying people back after a long delay is not a trustworthy act.

Everybody can go silent for a couple of weeks, unfortunately. Everybody got paid and disputes was been resolved and that's very important.

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