SCAMMER ! - cxboyminer - SCAMMER ! - Owes me 0.3 BTC ! - Cautionary Tale -

[thealtcoinguy]

Hi everybody,


I recently did a coin for cxboyminer. We agreed on 1/3 payment prior to delivery and 2/3 payment after delivery. He wanted a custom Quark coin and he negotiated to a heavily discounted price of 0.45 BTC. He still owes me 2/3 of the payment (0.3 BTC).  

Here are the details of the coin he wanted me to produce and the links to the goods I produced :

Name:  ioCash
Abbreviation: IOH
Max number of coins : 1.22 billion
Timings of block (in seconds) : 25 seconds
Logo of coin (please provide link) : later
Pre-mine amount in number of coins (if needed): no premine
Coins per Block : 250

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QT Wallets : http://www.speedyshare.com/9HBWf/ioCash-QT.zip

Source code : http://speedy.sh/vmSdQ/ioCash-Delivery.zip


I realized he was going to be a challenging client when he kept changing his mind on settings for the coin and seemed very uncertain.

No deadline was set but I did tell him it would be delivered in arpox 72 hours. He said no problem. Admittedly, It did take slightly longer I think 4-5 days in total.

48 hours prior to delivery he sent me a message on Skype telling me he changed his mind and wanted to cancel. I told him I had done most of the coding and if he was going to cancel it was going to be 0.4 BTC. He said ok then carry on take the time you need.

24 hours prior to delivery he said your too late and another dev already delivered. I made it very clear to him it was not my problem if he hired multiple devs to complete the coin and I would be making delivery the next day. I kinda felt sorry for the guy and offered him to settle the project for 0.375 btc , no reply.

I delivered the coin ...  I have messaged him both on skype and bitcointalk no reply. I warned I would take further action. No reply. Looking at his profile has has been online.


Anyway, Not sure if I can get my money back.... I mean I trusted this guy since he is a Senior member , has an escrow service and positive trust rating ! I mean who the hell can you trust here if you can't trust such a guy.  This should be a cautionary tale for everybody , trust no-one.


Here is his profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=148493


If he comes onto hear and starts lying I have the skype logs and bitcointalk message logs to prove otherwise. A part of me thinks this is a decent guy maybe going to pay me the money due but I suspect I'm wrong.

cxboyminer if your reading this you know my btc address please send payment.

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Can you please provide message logs.

[thealtcoinguy]

Can you please provide message logs.

Bitcointalk here is everything from the point we aggreed on payment terms etc:



Aug 27:

Message from cxboyminer : i got scammed once before, lost all btc so now im very cautious. Not saying that you are a scammer, just being careful Smiley

Fair enough, how much again for the quark clone but better Tongue ? I hope this wont die within days and you will get a big fat positive trust for helping me regardless Smiley

how about 1/3 pre-paid and then 2/3 afterwards. I dont scam people (trust, as usual).

Do consider Smiley

Hi,

Ok since you have trust and are a senior member sure why not. 1/3 pre-paid and 2/3 afterwards sounds ok.

Yes their are a lot of scammers here ... Just a week ago I had a guy run off with a coin and not pay me sigh :/ . Yes a nice positive trust on my account would be very helpful and help reassure clients of my trustworthiness.

Anyway, yes so I can do the Quark clone for 0.45 BTC. So 1/3 is 0.15 BTC . If you could send initial payment to: 1LcCDSoWYSGfWSeg5gDpCvEretWQx9iR6j that would be great and I will start developing.

BTW are the settings the same :

Name:  Core
Abbreviation: COE
Max number of coins : 188 million
Timings of block (in seconds) : 25 seconds
Logo of coin (please provide link) : later
Pre-mine amount in number of coins (if needed): no premine
Coins per Block : 1314

Thanks
The Altcoin Guy

Aug 27 :

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« Sent to: cxboyminer on: August 27, 2014, 12:13:28 PM »
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Quote from: cxboyminer on August 27, 2014, 12:10:50 PM
how long will the coin be?

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Hi,

72 hours after first 1/3 payment is received.

Thanks
The Altcoin Guy
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Quote from: cxboyminer on August 27, 2014, 12:14:12 PM
no i mean... how long will the coin last until all coins are mined?

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Oh ok ...

Based on my calculations you would run out in 41 days.


Here are my calculations if your interested.

You said 25 second blocks so that's 86400(seconds in a day)/25 (one block in seconds ) = 3456 blocks per day

3456 blocks * 1314 coins per block = 4541184 coins per day

You said you wanted max coins at 188 000 000 so that's ... 188000000/4541184 = 41.4 days


If you want to increase the length of the coin you can increase the max coin figure or seconds needed to make a block. Or if you want you can reduce the coins in a block.

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Quote from: cxboyminer on August 27, 2014, 12:26:58 PM
damn. can i make it to at least 3 years... how about increasing the max to 270 million and coins_per_block to around ~250?

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Hi,

Again based on my calculations you would run out in one year

864000 coins per day

270 000 000 / 864000 = 312 days


If you want to make it 3 years I would say increase max coin figure to 1.22 billion. Then you would have this...

864000 coins per day

1 220 000 000 / 864000 = 1412 days

1412/365 = 3.86 years ...

Does that sound better ?

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Quote from: cxboyminer on August 27, 2014, 12:42:07 PM
Sure do this then...

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Hi,

Ok thanks for your order I will start work . Just to confirm here are the final settings.

Name:  Core
Abbreviation: COE
Max number of coins : 1.22 billion
Timings of block (in seconds) : 25 seconds
Logo of coin (please provide link) : later
Pre-mine amount in number of coins (if needed): no premine
Coins per Block : 250

Thanks for your order and I hope you will enjoy my work.
The Altcoin Guy

Quote from: cxboyminer on August 27, 2014, 03:53:37 PM
hey man, sorry i just found out Corecoin has been used.

Can you rename it to ioCash and the abbrev. is IOH?

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Hi,

Ok no problem ,that sounds ok but from now on any modifications will have an extra charge.

I just can't keep constantly replacing the name it takes alot of time.

Name:  ioCash
Abbreviation: IOH
Max number of coins : 1.22 billion
Timings of block (in seconds) : 25 seconds
Logo of coin (please provide link) : later
Pre-mine amount in number of coins (if needed): no premine
Coins per Block : 250

Thanks and your coin should be ready within 72 hours.
The Altcoin Guy




Aug 31:

Hi cxboyminer,


Your coin is ready. Sorry for the delay the internet is very slow atm and uploading took very long.

I have extensively tested the core of the code and mined a few blocks on the testnet network so everything should be working fine.

I have a node running here : 173.XXXXXXX

You can download the QT and Source code from the links below :

http://speedy.sh/vmSdQ/ioCash-Delivery.zip

http://www.speedyshare.com/HSBdA/ioCash-QT.zip


I give my clients 72 hours to confirm everything is ok or report any issues etc.

Once you confirm everything is ok please send remaining 0.3 BTC to : 1LcCDSoWYSGfWSeg5gDpCvEretWQx9iR6j


Thanks
The Altcoin Guy




Sept 01:
Hi,


Just looked at the link I sent you and I realized the QT zip did not have the Windows QT.

My sincerest apologizes it seems I gave you the wrong link.


The link below has the Linux and Windows QTs as agreed upon.

http://www.speedyshare.com/9HBWf/ioCash-QT.zip


Once you confirm everything is ok please send remaining 0.3 BTC to : 1LcCDSoWYSGfWSeg5gDpCvEretWQx9iR6j


Thanks
The Altcoin Guy


Sept 03 :

Hi cxboyminer,

It has been over 72 hours since delivery and I have no received a reply from you. This means that by default your order is confirmed to be okay.

Please send the remaining payment of 0.3 BTC immediately to the address below.

1LcCDSoWYSGfWSeg5gDpCvEretWQx9iR6j


If you fail to send the payment within the next 24 hours I will need to take further actions like posts in scam secion and their will be no warnings.

I hope I can trust you in paying the amount due as agreed and don't need to further action.

This is very frustrating because I already offered you a very high discount, spent a lot of time and trusted you to make 2/3 of payment post delivery and yet i have not received anything.


If you have any queries feel free to message me. BTW I think your coin will do fine just have a little faith in-yourself.


Thanks and I look forward to receiving payment.
The Altcoin Guy



Skype (note we added each other after order was made)  :  

[28/08/2014 04:15:35] nik ching: hi
[28/08/2014 15:17:24] nik ching: hi?
[28/08/2014 16:01:08] TheAltcoinGuy: hi yes how can i help ?
[28/08/2014 16:01:20] nik ching: Hi
[28/08/2014 16:01:36] nik ching: what is the starting letter for the coin?
[28/08/2014 16:01:55] TheAltcoinGuy: ah yes i got your message...
[28/08/2014 16:02:42] nik ching: great
[28/08/2014 16:02:50] TheAltcoinGuy: but unfortuantly its too late. Im in the process of doing your genesis block ...
[28/08/2014 16:03:11] nik ching: oh
[28/08/2014 16:03:16] TheAltcoinGuy: If you told me when you told me to change name it would have been ok but now its too late. sorry dude.
[28/08/2014 16:03:34] nik ching: but what is the letter now?
[28/08/2014 16:03:39] nik ching: the pre-set one?
[28/08/2014 16:03:53] TheAltcoinGuy: yes it will be the standard quark one
[28/08/2014 16:04:08] nik ching: ok thanks
[28/08/2014 16:04:26] TheAltcoinGuy: sorry about that bro wish you told me earlier.
[28/08/2014 16:04:33] nik ching: i just realised
[28/08/2014 16:04:48] nik ching: forgot when you ask me for the info yesterday
[28/08/2014 16:04:51] nik ching: never mind then
[28/08/2014 16:05:13] TheAltcoinGuy: ok should be ready in under 48 hours
[28/08/2014 16:05:47] nik ching: great
[28/08/2014 16:05:51] nik ching: just making the icon
[28/08/2014 16:05:56] nik ching: do you have photoshop?
[28/08/2014 16:06:13] TheAltcoinGuy: yes ... a psd should be fine.
[28/08/2014 16:06:30] nik ching: this is not set but please comment if you have time
[28/08/2014 16:06:49] *** nik ching sent iocash.psd ***
[28/08/2014 16:07:28] TheAltcoinGuy: ok will have a look
[28/08/2014 16:07:32] nik ching: cheers
[28/08/2014 16:10:58] TheAltcoinGuy: yeah I think it looks good. much better than some other things I have seen haha.
[28/08/2014 16:11:06] nik ching: haha thanks
[28/08/2014 16:11:12] nik ching: io = in out
[28/08/2014 16:11:17] nik ching: so in and out arrows
[28/08/2014 16:11:29] TheAltcoinGuy: sounds good.
[28/08/2014 16:16:38] nik ching: also
[28/08/2014 16:16:50] nik ching: is there windows qt included?
[28/08/2014 16:16:59] TheAltcoinGuy: yes ofcourse.
[28/08/2014 16:17:13] nik ching: only windows qt, or will there be others?
[28/08/2014 16:17:22] TheAltcoinGuy: windows and linux qt included.
[28/08/2014 16:17:27] nik ching: cheers
[28/08/2014 16:17:36] nik ching: but are you able to make mac qt?
[28/08/2014 16:18:25] TheAltcoinGuy: I can get that made for an extra 0.05 BTC if you want ... I have a freind of mine who makes MAC QTs. I can't make them because I dont have a mac.
[28/08/2014 16:18:53] nik ching: ok so this 0.05 will be in the dev cost targets
[28/08/2014 16:19:12] nik ching: im planning on making you as my long term dev partner for my coin if you don't mind?
[28/08/2014 16:19:50] TheAltcoinGuy: em sure so ... do you want the mac qt for 0.05 extra or not ? to be honest I think their are some users online who do mac wallets for free.
[28/08/2014 16:20:00] nik ching: fair
[28/08/2014 16:20:11] nik ching: i will try contacting / finding them before deciding
[28/08/2014 16:20:19] nik ching: but im glad to have you on board
[28/08/2014 16:20:36] TheAltcoinGuy: ok. no problem.
[28/08/2014 16:20:41] nik ching: great
[29/08/2014 10:21:28] nik ching: hey
[29/08/2014 10:21:30] nik ching: how is it going?
[29/08/2014 10:21:32] nik ching: http://bitkrone.com/
[29/08/2014 13:18:22] TheAltcoinGuy: hi , it's going good. core code pretty much done. Need to do testing for the core code ... then I will need final logo. Will message you when I need it.
[29/08/2014 13:19:24] *** nik ching sent iocash.png ***
[29/08/2014 13:19:44] TheAltcoinGuy: is this final version ?
[29/08/2014 13:48:10] nik ching: yes
[29/08/2014 13:48:20] nik ching: do you have irc?
[29/08/2014 13:48:34] TheAltcoinGuy: no sorry.
[29/08/2014 13:49:23] nik ching: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=iocash-dev
[29/08/2014 14:02:37] nik ching: what do you think of the bitkrone.com website?
[29/08/2014 15:51:39] nik ching: so the coin will be available in 24 hrs?
[29/08/2014 15:51:47] nik ching: not rushing, take your time sir
[29/08/2014 18:33:11] nik ching: hi I kind of don't want the coin anymore
[29/08/2014 18:33:28] nik ching: is it possible to send you 0.15?
[29/08/2014 18:56:44] TheAltcoinGuy: hi i sorry just saw all your messages ...
[29/08/2014 18:57:25] TheAltcoinGuy: Yes the website looks fine. delviery would have been in 24 /48 hours. If you don't want the coin thats fine but I still need full payment , we had an aggreemet and the core code of your coin complete.
[29/08/2014 18:57:40] nik ching: never mind then
[29/08/2014 18:57:49] nik ching: do complete it then...
[29/08/2014 18:58:15] TheAltcoinGuy: ok thanks.
[29/08/2014 19:03:16] nik ching: im not sure whether the coin will succeed
[29/08/2014 19:04:44] nik ching: will the coin be pool minable?
[29/08/2014 19:05:14] TheAltcoinGuy: hmm well i told you the things it needs to suceed. if you want to cancel im willing to accept 0.4 btc (0.05 btc less) as that about the amount of work left. yes any pool able to mine quark will be able to mine yours.
[29/08/2014 19:05:57] nik ching: it's my first time creating a coin, so I have lots of questions...
[29/08/2014 19:06:29] TheAltcoinGuy: hmm yes but alot depends on you and on luck ... im just making the coin haha.
[29/08/2014 19:06:30] nik ching: will there be node set up included?
[29/08/2014 19:06:43] TheAltcoinGuy: yes 1 node will be setup and running
[29/08/2014 19:06:52] nik ching: that's nice to hear
[29/08/2014 19:07:56] TheAltcoinGuy: so would you like me to continue or just aggree on  0.4 btc and leave ?
[29/08/2014 19:08:09] nik ching: just continue then
[29/08/2014 19:08:29] TheAltcoinGuy: ok will do. im sure it will be fine ... peoples first coins are always enjoyable.
[29/08/2014 19:08:42] nik ching: haha
[30/08/2014 15:18:48] nik ching: you are late
[30/08/2014 15:19:11] nik ching: The other guy finished the coin already
[30/08/2014 19:49:47] TheAltcoinGuy: Hi, i told you 24-48 hours yesterday you said ok . your coin will be delivered late today or early tommorow. We have an aggreement and frankly its not my problem if "the other guy" finished the coin already you should not have orded two coins at once. I will be expecting payment upon delivery. If you wish to cancel your order we can aggree on a min of 0.375 BTC.
[03/09/2014 16:26:02] TheAltcoinGuy: hey u there ? !
[03/09/2014 18:53:11] TheAltcoinGuy: hi u there ?
[03/09/2014 18:56:48] TheAltcoinGuy: u where online a sec ago ? I need the remaining payment of 0.3 BTC ... Please reply and send payment as said in bitcointalk message. Running away and going offline is not going to help.
[03/09/2014 19:31:43] TheAltcoinGuy: hey dude u there  ? Habe not got a reply from you in days ... everything ok ?
[10:55:32] TheAltcoinGuy: I'm sure u have seen all my messages as you have logged onto bitcointalk. Please send payment immediatly. Not replying and ignoring me is not going to make this go away.
[13:18:57] TheAltcoinGuy: hi u there ?
[13:20:42] TheAltcoinGuy: u look online ??



If you need anything else like screenshots etc feel free to post. This is the first time i have had to do this and hopefully last.