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September 05, 2014, 09:01:10 PM
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Part of the way they con you citing "facts" such as bolded above is to never use inflation adjusted numbers.

That statement is true in constant (inflation adjusted) dollars.
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September 06, 2014, 05:59:29 PM
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Don't worry ..rehypothecation is like economic recycling nowadays.The world won't end anytime soon Grin
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September 06, 2014, 06:16:17 PM
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I'm always curious when people will take notice of news like this.  The media like to just play it off as fear and doubt but those who are paying attention can see it's much more then that.  These Billionaires make their fortunes from economies of the world so they aren't dumb, if anyting they should be looked at as the "canary in the coal mine" at this point.

Don't worry ..rehypothecation is like economic recycling nowadays.The world won't end anytime soon Grin

The world itself noway but I'm not sure about the world as we've come to know it in the 21 century.
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September 07, 2014, 01:46:11 AM
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Part of the way they con you citing "facts" such as bolded above is to never use inflation adjusted numbers.

That statement is true in constant (inflation adjusted) dollars.
No it is not true in inflation adjusted dollars.

First of all you have to be very careful about whose measures of inflation you believe for this kind of a calculation.  This is very important.  www.shadowstats.com

Secondly, for any given starting and ending dates for an investment, whether you make a profit or lose is a random thing.

Third, at this time there is massive over investment in the stock market in order to get a basic return on investment, which cannot be done with savings.  This over investment is due for a correction in my opinion.

Remember that at the very time that government wants to prevent capital flight, they will lie on every number, every statistic and try to prevent those funds from moving using a variety of tactics and slow-walking.
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September 07, 2014, 05:09:33 AM
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The market has been overvalued for some time; the fact that they are all singing in unison now makes me wonder if they have some inside information on the direction of Fed policy.
It's much easier to time one's bets when one has a pipeline to the source. I'm speculating here, but you have to wonder.

The current market price is always at "fair" value.

It is the fiat that is usually over or under value in the short term which cause asset price to fluctuate wildly.
The market price is what the market prices something to be. It may or may not be a "fair" price as external factors may be influencing the price. What I think is influencing the price of many investments today is the excess money supply that is being introduced by the fed via QE. This is causing people to take excess risks which is causing asset prices to rise to levels above what normal market conditions would usually warrant.
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September 07, 2014, 05:20:18 AM
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its all physcology... because of the fiat printing, the top 1% control the deck of cards, they simply play it the way they want to. So for now until people get uber bullish it wont happen. I still say dow 32k before the crash or something close to it... it should bring mom n pop and average joes looking for 100k forcasts looking at charts from 1980 and repeating. Ive been saying 32k since it was around 8k but couldnt get myself to invest because I still feel bitcoin is a better game, you know your enemies atleast.
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September 09, 2014, 10:38:58 AM
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What is 'quiet' about this?  they have been running expensive shorts all year and are starting to get annoyed.  there is a difference between happily being out of equities and needing the market to drop.  it is pretty sad when you have to cheerlead retail. Collapsing time value, painful....extend or jawbone?  Dividend-payers can go sideways for a good long time, if they drift higher, even better, but not necessary.

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