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March 17, 2013, 12:27:57 PM
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pool users and workers are already in our API.
but
we had 287 users and 800 or so Gh a while back
right now we show
Pool: [ 4,858.78 GHash/s | 300 Users | 775 Workers and 1 user with 2.8Th/s
and a couple of days ago 7Th with 309 users

personally I don't think user numbers are a good indicator currently unless you also look at user hashrates.

Yes, the hashrate distribution varies widely between pools.

If we could a majority of pools to provide a simple API - just a list of each user accounts' 24 hour average D1 equivalent hashrates - it would make the comparisons more valid, and possible to perform weekly.

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March 24, 2013, 06:27:40 AM
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24th March 2013 weekly pool and network statistics

Welcome, miners.

Changelog:
Nil

Pools missing from results:

Maxbtc API not working


"ASIC ready" pools:

BTCGuild
Slush's pool
Ozcoin
HHTT
Bitminter
EclipseMC
Eligius
Bitparking
Itzod

Pool hopping:

Slush's pool

Many more ASICs came online this week - the average weekly network hashrate increased by about 10Thps to ~49 Thps, and many of those went to BTCGuild  who alone accounted for ~ 36% of the network. The only other pools to see a significant increase in their share of the network was HHTT who now are in the top five pools, and Bitparking. Many pools had an increase in their hashrate, but none of them significantly more than the network increase.

As usual, please post comments if there's anything you don't understand, with which you disagree, or just think is wrong.


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April 07, 2013, 04:42:39 AM
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Edit: Ooops - I forgot to post here last week. If you want to have a look, last weeks update was at  http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/04/31st-march-2013-weekly-pool-and-network.html



7th April 2013 weekly pool and network statistics

Welcome, miners.

Changelog:
Figure 3 (top 10 hashrate history) is back to using a base 10 logarithmic y axis since some pools which once had a very high proportion of the network have a much lower proportion and visa versa. The only way to show a comparison is by using a log y axis.

Pools missing from results:

None


"ASIC ready" pools:

BTCGuild
50BTC.com
Slush's pool
Ozcoin
HHTT
Bitminter
EclipseMC
Eligius
Bitparking
Itzod
Triplemining

Pool hopping:

Slush's pool - was being hopped for about 5 days during the week. Still not much though, and I doubt it's having a significant impact on fulltime miner earnings.

The weekly average network hashrate increased by ~ 6 Thps this week. BTCGuild's hashrate only increased by another 2Thps, with 38% of the network blocks for this week. Pool op eleuthria has decided on a number of proposals to limit BTCGuild's influence over the network, including increasing the pool fee if the pool's proportion of the network exceeds 40%. This is a move I applaud, and is a good indicator of eleuthria's commitment to bitcoin and not just profits.

"Unknown" is down to 5% of the network. There are a few pools of which I know that I can't yet include in the weekly stats, and between them they account for about 2% of the netwrok - so there's still 3% completely unknown. So still no indication that any significant number of ASICs are going solo.

HHTT lost 90% of their hashrate in the past few days, in the wake of concerns about pool bankruptcy - an ever present possibility for a PPS only pool. Pool op fireduck is busy changing the payout method to PPLNS and has assured all miners that all owed earnings will be paid. Since fireduck also works for SatoshiDice, I'd have to guess he can make good on that commitment.

ecki, previously small pool ( run by a German fellow permanently work-vacationing on Koh Samui , and of whom I'm rather jealous ) just increased their hashrate by 1000% with the addition of someone with about 7 Avalon's worth of hashrate. Unfortunately I can't yet include them in the network stats since their page is a bit hard to scrape, but I hope to include them soon.

As usual, please post comments if there's anything you don't understand, with which you disagree, or just think is wrong.

You can view this weeks charts at http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/04/7th-april-2013-weekly-pool-and-network.html

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April 14, 2013, 06:32:20 AM
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14th April 2013 weekly pool and network statistics

Welcome, miners.

Changelog:
Figure 8 (Chart of fulltime miner earnings loss at a proportional pool caused by pool hoppers) has been removed since very little pool hopping has occurred. Instead, figure 8 is now the user hashrate distribution, as a follow up to post 12.1 The pre-ASIC network hashrate distribution.

Pools missing from results:

None, although MTRED (which sadly closed it doors this week) will be missing from next weeks' results. They're included this week since there were nine blocks solved by the pool during the current week before they closed.


"ASIC ready" pools:

BTCGuild
50BTC.com
Slush's pool
Ozcoin
HHTT
Bitminter
EclipseMC
Eligius
Bitparking
Itzod
Triplemining

Pool hopping:
None
BTCGuild is almost at 40% of the weekly average network hashrate this week (although only 36.7% of network blocks, thanks to some bad luck). The pool is keeping pace with the increase in weekly average network hashrate, ~ 6 Thps. This is good new for the pool and the network in general - on average, miners are choosing not to start at BTCGuild or move there from other pools.

Bitminter has become a top 5 hashrate pool and Slush's pool is vying with 50BTC.com to hit second spot - back to where it was when DeepBit was king.

As usual, please post comments if there's anything you don't understand, with which you disagree, or just think is wrong.

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April 14, 2013, 06:50:12 AM
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Nice work, as always. Smiley

I like the new violin plot of hashrate distribution among miners in a pool.

What kind of API/data do you prefer, to add more pools there?

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April 14, 2013, 07:05:42 AM
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Nice work, as always. Smiley

I like the new violin plot of hashrate distribution among miners in a pool.

What kind of API/data do you prefer, to add more pools there?


Glad you like!

CSV or JSON - doesn't really matter since I just need a vector of hashrates in Ghps, nothing else.

What I'd really like is the 24 hour average hashrate per user account. Is 24 hours a problem? Not many pools average for that long, but I suspect that has to do with what miners want rather than what I want Smiley

I've also meant to ask Graet about this - Ozcoin's Hall of Fame lists shares contributed per miner, but I'm not sure over what sort of time period, or whether they're D1 equivalent.

Any pool op that doen't yet publish these stats but wants to be added is welcome to post here or PM me. I want to (at some point) provide a chart of how each pool's hashrate distribution changes over time.

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April 14, 2013, 11:43:55 AM
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Nice work, as always. Smiley

I like the new violin plot of hashrate distribution among miners in a pool.

What kind of API/data do you prefer, to add more pools there?


Glad you like!

CSV or JSON - doesn't really matter since I just need a vector of hashrates in Ghps, nothing else.

What I'd really like is the 24 hour average hashrate per user account. Is 24 hours a problem? Not many pools average for that long, but I suspect that has to do with what miners want rather than what I want Smiley

I've also meant to ask Graet about this - Ozcoin's Hall of Fame lists shares contributed per miner, but I'm not sure over what sort of time period, or whether they're D1 equivalent.

Any pool op that doen't yet publish these stats but wants to be added is welcome to post here or PM me. I want to (at some point) provide a chart of how each pool's hashrate distribution changes over time.

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http://ozcoin.net/content/hall-fame-round-shares-bitcoin is by round (users PPS and pot are dummy users to keep DGM stats correct - probably shouldn't be displayed)
http://ozcoin.net/content/hall-fame-lifetime-shares-bitcoin is alltime since we moved to the new site (30 December 2011)
and everything is converted back to D1 equivalent for payout and stats calculations
hope thats a help Smiley

Keep up the good work Cheesy

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April 14, 2013, 12:23:22 PM
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Nice work, as always. Smiley

I like the new violin plot of hashrate distribution among miners in a pool.

What kind of API/data do you prefer, to add more pools there?


Glad you like!

CSV or JSON - doesn't really matter since I just need a vector of hashrates in Ghps, nothing else.

What I'd really like is the 24 hour average hashrate per user account. Is 24 hours a problem? Not many pools average for that long, but I suspect that has to do with what miners want rather than what I want Smiley

I've also meant to ask Graet about this - Ozcoin's Hall of Fame lists shares contributed per miner, but I'm not sure over what sort of time period, or whether they're D1 equivalent.

Any pool op that doen't yet publish these stats but wants to be added is welcome to post here or PM me. I want to (at some point) provide a chart of how each pool's hashrate distribution changes over time.

Ho ooc
http://ozcoin.net/content/hall-fame-round-shares-bitcoin is by round (users PPS and pot are dummy users to keep DGM stats correct - probably shouldn't be displayed)
http://ozcoin.net/content/hall-fame-lifetime-shares-bitcoin is alltime since we moved to the new site (30 December 2011)
and everything is converted back to D1 equivalent for payout and stats calculations
hope thats a help Smiley

Keep up the good work Cheesy


Thanks Graet. I notice the hashrate is actually there - was it there in January? I thought I'd only gotten shares and not the hashrate back then.

Anyway, I'll be including Ozcoin next week!

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April 14, 2013, 01:44:17 PM
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If you haven't already done so, could you run an analysis testing whether there are possibly ASICs mining above and beyond what ASICMINER and Avalon have publicly noted?
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April 14, 2013, 02:09:26 PM
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Nice work, as always. Smiley

I like the new violin plot of hashrate distribution among miners in a pool.

What kind of API/data do you prefer, to add more pools there?


Glad you like!

CSV or JSON - doesn't really matter since I just need a vector of hashrates in Ghps, nothing else.

What I'd really like is the 24 hour average hashrate per user account. Is 24 hours a problem? Not many pools average for that long, but I suspect that has to do with what miners want rather than what I want Smiley

I've also meant to ask Graet about this - Ozcoin's Hall of Fame lists shares contributed per miner, but I'm not sure over what sort of time period, or whether they're D1 equivalent.

Any pool op that doen't yet publish these stats but wants to be added is welcome to post here or PM me. I want to (at some point) provide a chart of how each pool's hashrate distribution changes over time.

Ho ooc
http://ozcoin.net/content/hall-fame-round-shares-bitcoin is by round (users PPS and pot are dummy users to keep DGM stats correct - probably shouldn't be displayed)
http://ozcoin.net/content/hall-fame-lifetime-shares-bitcoin is alltime since we moved to the new site (30 December 2011)
and everything is converted back to D1 equivalent for payout and stats calculations
hope thats a help Smiley

Keep up the good work Cheesy


Thanks Graet. I notice the hashrate is actually there - was it there in January? I thought I'd only gotten shares and not the hashrate back then.

Anyway, I'll be including Ozcoin next week!
Pretty sure we have always shown hashrate on the hall-fame-round-shares-bitcoin Smiley
and cool, cheers Cheesy

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April 14, 2013, 02:15:29 PM
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Thanks Graet. I notice the hashrate is actually there - was it there in January? I thought I'd only gotten shares and not the hashrate back then.

Anyway, I'll be including Ozcoin next week!
Pretty sure we have always shown hashrate on the hall-fame-round-shares-bitcoin Smiley
and cool, cheers Cheesy

Well, I feel kinda silly now - sorry about that. I have no idea what I did there.

Hope you're taking some time off the pool on Thursday - enjoy your BBQ!


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Thanks Graet. I notice the hashrate is actually there - was it there in January? I thought I'd only gotten shares and not the hashrate back then.

Anyway, I'll be including Ozcoin next week!
Pretty sure we have always shown hashrate on the hall-fame-round-shares-bitcoin Smiley
and cool, cheers Cheesy

Well, I feel kinda silly now - sorry about that. I have no idea what I did there.

Hope you're taking some time off the pool on Thursday - enjoy your BBQ!


Hadn't planned to - though I should take your advice Tongue
umm wouldn't be a week ahead of yourself re: the 25th?

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Thanks Graet. I notice the hashrate is actually there - was it there in January? I thought I'd only gotten shares and not the hashrate back then.

Anyway, I'll be including Ozcoin next week!
Pretty sure we have always shown hashrate on the hall-fame-round-shares-bitcoin Smiley
and cool, cheers Cheesy

Well, I feel kinda silly now - sorry about that. I have no idea what I did there.

Hope you're taking some time off the pool on Thursday - enjoy your BBQ!


Hadn't planned to - though I should take your advice Tongue
umm wouldn't be a week ahead of yourself re: the 25th?

Damnit! Now you've oriented me to which week I'm in, I'll have turn turn up to work on Thursday.

I really shouldn't post late at night when I'm watching TV.

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Thanks Graet. I notice the hashrate is actually there - was it there in January? I thought I'd only gotten shares and not the hashrate back then.

Anyway, I'll be including Ozcoin next week!
Pretty sure we have always shown hashrate on the hall-fame-round-shares-bitcoin Smiley
and cool, cheers Cheesy

Well, I feel kinda silly now - sorry about that. I have no idea what I did there.

Hope you're taking some time off the pool on Thursday - enjoy your BBQ!


Hadn't planned to - though I should take your advice Tongue
umm wouldn't be a week ahead of yourself re: the 25th?

Damnit! Now you've oriented me to which week I'm in, I'll have turn turn up to work on Thursday.

I really shouldn't post late at night when I'm watching TV.

Nah it's ok lets both have the day off anyway - we both need it  Grin
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April 15, 2013, 02:20:19 AM
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If you haven't already done so, could you run an analysis testing whether there are possibly ASICs mining above and beyond what ASICMINER and Avalon have publicly noted?

The pre-ASIC network hashrate was 24500 Ghps and the max total from Avalons and ASICMiner is 32000Ghps. The current total is about 68000 Ghps. That leaves 11500 Ghps, or more (I'm still not sure if all Avalons have shipped or if ASICMiner is hashing at more than the 7Thps on BTCGuild).

I don't know if that difference is due to unknown ASIC hashes or not. I can tell when the network hashrate increases in a way that can't be accounted for by the MTGOX price, but if more ASICs were added when ASICMiner and the Avalons came on board, it would be hidden. There hasn't been any such spike in hashrate recently.

It could just be that because the increase in price made GPU's viable again, a whole bunch more were added. Sorry I can't be more specific.

The good news is that I did just come up with a great band name if any bitcoin mining musicians want need one: ASICMiner and the Avalons. "ooh hash it, hash it real good...."


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If you haven't already done so, could you run an analysis testing whether there are possibly ASICs mining above and beyond what ASICMINER and Avalon have publicly noted?

The pre-ASIC network hashrate was 24500 Ghps and the max total from Avalons and ASICMiner is 32000Ghps. The current total is about 68000 Ghps. That leaves 11500 Ghps, or more (I'm still not sure if all Avalons have shipped or if ASICMiner is hashing at more than the 7Thps on BTCGuild).

I don't know if that difference is due to unknown ASIC hashes or not. I can tell when the network hashrate increases in a way that can't be accounted for by the MTGOX price, but if more ASICs were added when ASICMiner and the Avalons came on board, it would be hidden. There hasn't been any such spike in hashrate recently.

It could just be that because the increase in price made GPU's viable again, a whole bunch more were added. Sorry I can't be more specific.

The good news is that I did just come up with a great band name if any bitcoin mining musicians want need one: ASICMiner and the Avalons. "ooh hash it, hash it real good...."



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Would be nice to see the luck (graphical) of the pools like on ozco website:
https://ozco.in/content/luck-bitcoin
(for me it seems that deepbit was very lucky last time and it would be interesting if this is right or wrong..)

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Would be nice to see the luck (graphical) of the pools like on ozco website:
https://ozco.in/content/luck-bitcoin
(for me it seems that deepbit was very lucky last time and it would be interesting if this is right or wrong..)



For some reason I can't see the Ozco.in charts at the moment - they're just appearing blank to me. Can you post a screen grab or describe them?

In the mean time, the chart below gives the luck for the week. A dot at 0.5 is median luck, lower than this is good luck, and higher than this is bad luck.


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Would be nice to see the luck (graphical) of the pools like on ozco website:
https://ozco.in/content/luck-bitcoin
(for me it seems that deepbit was very lucky last time and it would be interesting if this is right or wrong..)



For some reason I can't see the Ozco.in charts at the moment - they're just appearing blank to me. Can you post a screen grab or describe them?

In the mean time, the chart below gives the luck for the week. A dot at 0.5 is median luck, lower than this is good luck, and higher than this is bad luck.



my guess is you are using chrome,recent updates make you click the shield in the address bar at right end and allow the insecure content
google chrome blocking google graphs Cheesy

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my guess is you are using chrome,recent updates make you click the shield in the address bar at right end and allow the insecure content
google chrome blocking google graphs Cheesy

I am using chrome but I dont get the shield thingy, and weirdly enough I can see the graphs today. Odd, huh?

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