[EDU] LIST OF ACTIVE LENDERS IN THE FORUM

[grtthegreat]

This list contains the list of all the members currently lending out BTC to help those in need.



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    Sl.No.                  Name                          Member Status                  Official Thread Link                 Trust Ratings                 Collateral
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       1.                   haploid23 *                    Hero Member                        Official Thread                   5: -0 / +13(13)                    O
       2.             marcotheminer *               Senior Member                      Official Thread                     1: -0 / +2(2)                       O
       3.                     Valzador *                    Full Member                         Official Thread                     0: -0 / +0(0)                       O




* Shows Active
* Shows Inactive
* Means thread is active for repayment and closed for lending.

Y means YES, Collateral is required.
O means OPTIONAL, Collateral option is available.
N means NO, No Collateral required for applying loan in this thread.


// Please note that the numbering above is based on the member status.  //
// Please note that the trust ratings above are on the basis of DefaultTrust list and appear differently if viewed from an account with different trust settings.  //


NOTE: This list is maybe incomplete and there is a chance that I might have missed out some members. If you are one among them, then please post the following: Name, Thread, Collateral Necessity, and I will update the list. Also, there might me some minor errors. If so, then post them in the thread below and I will correct them soon.

[grtthegreat]

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[marcotheminer]

Thanks for including me in the list, seems to be a good start, maybe you should also link to the open loans thread? Keep it up

[grtthegreat]

Thanks for including me in the list, seems to be a good start, maybe you should also link to the open loans thread? Keep it up

Open loans thread?? I don't think that will be required for people needing BTC.

[Whitehouse]

Is it just me or are the Y and O's screwed up from the Y means YES, Collateral is required O means OPTIONAL, Collateral option is available etc? They're underneath the numbers. I think they shoukld have their own slot to make it look better. Maybe do a table like bitcoininformation did with his signature thread.

[grtthegreat]

Is it just me or are the Y and O's screwed up from the Y means YES, Collateral is required O means OPTIONAL, Collateral option is available etc? They're underneath the numbers. I think they shoukld have their own slot to make it look better. Maybe do a table like bitcoininformation did with his signature thread.

I don't know how to use  rows and columns but I am learning it, so I would create tables soon. Sorry, for the inconvenience.

[Whitehouse]

Is it just me or are the Y and O's screwed up from the Y means YES, Collateral is required O means OPTIONAL, Collateral option is available etc? They're underneath the numbers. I think they shoukld have their own slot to make it look better. Maybe do a table like bitcoininformation did with his signature thread.

I don't know how to use  rows and columns but I am learning it, so I would create tables soon. Sorry, for the inconvenience.

Maybe just create another column like you have for Memberstatus & Collateral. You could always just ask bitcoininformation if you can copy and tweak his design, but I'd just edit this one as it's fine apart from that small detail.

[marcotheminer]

Thanks for including me in the list, seems to be a good start, maybe you should also link to the open loans thread? Keep it up

Open loans thread?? I don't think that will be required for people needing BTC.

Not for them but also for everyone else. Im referring to QuarntinedMoon's thread.

[Beastlymac]

Thanks for including me in the list, seems to be a good start, maybe you should also link to the open loans thread? Keep it up

Open loans thread?? I don't think that will be required for people needing BTC.

Not for them but also for everyone else. Im referring to QuarntinedMoon's thread.

I have organised a thread for that. Great job with the thread grtthegreat i have linked it in my post.

[redsn0w]

Thanks for including me in the list , for me the collateral is obbligatory! so can you add the letter "Y" ?

Thanks again for your work.

[grtthegreat]

I have organised a thread for that. Great job with the thread grtthegreat i have linked it in my post.

Maybe just create another column like you have for Memberstatus & Collateral. You could always just ask bitcoininformation if you can copy and tweak his design, but I'd just edit this one as it's fine apart from that small detail.

I tried to do it with tables and columns but ended up with failure. Please help me out if you guys can manage to get time to do it. Else, I would continue with the old table I made above.

[grtthegreat]

I have organised a thread for that. Great job with the thread grtthegreat i have linked it in my post.

Oh.. Thanks for including me in your thread. I liked the caption you wrote there: "A good thread in relation to people who provide loans can be found here."  Thanks again sir. 

[Bitcoins101]

I'm a Sr. Member....

Also, why are you ordering them by numbers and why is the order the way it is? Why are you so high on the list?

[MoneyGod]

You are missing this guy he is also offering loans here on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665876.0

[justbtcme]

Thanks for the add grtthegreat, I don't mind being at the bottom 

[Bitcoins101]

Thanks for the add grtthegreat, I don't mind being at the bottom  

I don't care how he orders the list (or where I am on the list), as long as it doesn't favor himself. Why are you in front of people who have been lending for longer and have higher trust ratings?

The way it currently is is very biased and I do not support it. Order it by thread start date, trust rating, or something else which is less biased.

Regardless of the order, get rid of the numbers. Numbers say that this is your personal opinion of lenders, which I guess it is.

[grtthegreat]

You are missing this guy he is also offering loans here on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665876.0

Thanks for the suggestion. I will add him to the list soon.

Thanks for the add grtthegreat, I don't mind being at the bottom 

I don't care how he orders the list (or where I am on the list), as long as it doesn't favor himself. Why are you in front of people who have been lending for longer and have higher trust ratings?

The way it currently is is very biased and I do not support it. Order it by thread start date, trust rating, or something else which is less biased.

Regardless of the order, get rid of the numbers. Numbers say that this is your personal opinion of lenders, which I guess it is.

Sorry but you misunderstood it. Its not based on anything, its just random. Its not my personal opinion. Please try to understand.

[Bitcoins101]

You are missing this guy he is also offering loans here on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665876.0

Thanks for the suggestion. I will add him to the list soon.

Thanks for the add grtthegreat, I don't mind being at the bottom  

I don't care how he orders the list (or where I am on the list), as long as it doesn't favor himself. Why are you in front of people who have been lending for longer and have higher trust ratings?

The way it currently is is very biased and I do not support it. Order it by thread start date, trust rating, or something else which is less biased.

Regardless of the order, get rid of the numbers. Numbers say that this is your personal opinion of lenders, which I guess it is.

Sorry but you misunderstood it. Its not based on anything, its just random. Its not my personal opinion. Please try to understand.

You're grossly misunderstanding what random is. Putting them down "in no particular order" based on whim isn't random (and if they are in no particular order, you should remove the numbers, as numbers mean that they are in order). You likely put yourself 4th because you wanted to put yourself as high as possible (as a result of both voluntary and involuntary personal biases) without it being overly obvious that you were putting yourself higher than you should be (it's pretty obvious to me, though). Even if you didn't think this, you did so without realizing it.

TomatoCage likely wouldn't be first if it was random - he's known as the most trustworthy. haploid23 likely wouldn't be second if it was random - he's proven to be a trustworthy lender and has been a good member for awhile. You go down the list and most of it makes sense based on the reputation each member has here (I can't comment about my own ranking, as while I know exactly my level of trustworthiness, it's impossible for other people to). The one guy sticking out is you - a relatively new member and lender, conveniently placed in front of a handful of more experienced and trustworthy members.

This is an entirely different topic, but true randomness does not just mean something is unsystematic and indiscriminate. Humans are incapable of true randomness. Most cryptography might even seem random, and for all practical purposes can be considered random, but it truly isn't. Randomness is very hard to achieve.

If you want this to be an unbiased list, you're going to have to change things. There's nothing inherently bad about something being biased, but that's what this list is. Considering you say that this list is unbiased and we can be sure it isn't, the only thing you've achieved is a loss of trust.

[grtthegreat]

You're grossly misunderstanding what random is. Putting them down "in no particular order" based on whim isn't random (and if they are in no particular order, you should remove the numbers, as numbers mean that they are in order). You likely put yourself 4th because you wanted to put yourself as high as possible (as a result of both voluntary and involuntary personal biases) without it being overly obvious that you were putting yourself higher than you should be (it's pretty obvious to me, though). Even if you didn't think this, you did so without realizing it.

TomatoCage likely wouldn't be first if it was random - he's known as the most trustworthy. haploid23 likely wouldn't be second if it was random - he's proven to be a trustworthy lender and has been a good member for awhile. You go down the list and most of it makes sense based on the reputation each member has here (I can't comment about my own ranking, as while I know exactly my level of trustworthiness, it's impossible for other people to). The one guy sticking out is you - a relatively new member and lender, conveniently placed in front of a handful of more experienced and trustworthy members.

This is an entirely different topic, but true randomness does not just mean something is unsystematic and indiscriminate. Humans are incapable of true randomness. Most cryptography might even seem random, and for all practical purposes can be considered random, but it truly isn't. Randomness is very hard to achieve.

If you want this to be an unbiased list, you're going to have to change things. There's nothing inherently bad about something being biased, but that's what this list is. Considering you say that this list is unbiased and we can be sure it isn't, the only thing you've achieved is a loss of trust.

So, what actually you want ?? Your name on the top of the list ?? Or anything else. Okay, then tell me at what number your name should be at ??

[grtthegreat]

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