This is bad: Russia 'abducts' Estonian officer after Obama says US will defend..

[Singlebyte]

Now what Mr. Obama?

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/5/6110037/estonia-russia-officer-kidnapped

"Just on Wednesday, the United States publicly committed to Estonia's military defense, meaning that a Russian invasion of Estonia would trigger war between Russia and the US, a prospect so dangerous that the world managed to avoid it throughout even the Cold War."

[Balthazar]

«Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.»

- Matthew 7:12

Estonia and Latvia were "abducting" the retired russian officers on the regular basis, in order to perform a trial on false accusations related to events, which have happened in the 1990s. So I'm not surprised to see a kind of "revenge" from russian side. I also won't be surprised if they "accidentally found" a few kilograms of heroin.

[dodgecharger]

This is terrible if you accept one side of this. Russians say he was caught in Russia. Clearly there's a feature of capturing him, so it simple to evaluate the area.

[bryant.coleman]

Estonia and Latvia were "abducting" the retired russian officers on the regular basis, in order to perform a trial on false accusations related to events, which have happened in the 1990s. So I'm not surprised to see a kind of "revenge" from russian side. I also won't be surprised if they "accidentally found" a few kilograms of heroin.

This might be just a trick to get some of the abducted ex-Soviet military personnel back to Russia. Both these nations have been poking Russia for long. It is time to give a fitting reply, so this who drama is ended once and for all. It seems that both Latvia and Estonia have forgot what happened to Georgia when they similarly tried to poke Russia.

[Nemo1024]

Estonia has been crying Wolf, wolf many times before. More PR. Invading them is not worth the effort. Those countries are self-destructing under the US guidance quite nicely as it were...

[Pagan]

Remember Medininkai as well: "Russian governments change, lies – and methods – stay the same."

http://estonianworld.com/security/russia-kidnapping-estonians-nothing-new-46-abducted-thirties/

Several Soviet OMON assaults on Lithuanian border posts occurred in 1991, after Lithuania declared its independence from the Soviet Union on March 11, 1990. As a Soviet republic, the Lithuanian SSR did not have a state border with customs or checkpoints. The newly declared Republic of Lithuania began establishing the State Border Guard Service, which also became a symbol of its striving for independence.[1] The Soviet government viewed the customs posts as illegal and sent the OMON (Special Purpose Police Unit) troops against the posts, especially those along the eastern border with Belarus. The unarmed[2] custom officers and policemen were harassed, beaten or killed, their cars were stolen or bombed, the posts were burned down or wrecked, and work of the checkpoints was otherwise disrupted.[3] Two of the incidents resulted in the deaths of eight Lithuanian citizens. In total, about 60 officers were attacked and injured,[4] and 23 border posts were burned or destroyed.[5]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_OMON_assaults_on_Lithuanian_border_posts

[elite3000]

Confirmed that abduction occurred in the course of cross border corruption investigation.
 Documented. On Estonian soil.

[countryfree]

I wonder who is the most dangerous to world peace, IS or Russia. To all countries in Eastern Europe, this is Russia.

[Balthazar]

I wonder who is the most dangerous to world peace, IS or Russia. To all countries in Eastern Europe, this is Russia.

[bryant.coleman]

I wonder who is the most dangerous to world peace, IS or Russia. To all countries in Eastern Europe, this is Russia.

The most dangerous country to world peace is the United States of America. IS has invaded 2 countries in the last 50 years. Russia has invaded none. On the other hand, the US has invaded dozens of nations ever since the end of WW2.

Here is the list:

1949 Greece
1952 Cuba
1953 Iran
1953 British Guyana
1954 Guatemala
1955 South Vietnam
1957 Haiti
1958 Laos
1960 South Korea
1960 Laos
1960 Ecuador.
1963 Dominican Republic
1963 South Vietnam
1963 Honduras
1963 Guatemala
1963 Ecuador.
1964 Brazil
1964 Bolivia
1965 Zaire.
1966 Ghana
1967 Greece
1970 Cambodia
1970 Bolivia
1972 El Salvador
1973 Chile
1979 South Korea (Pro-USA government wanted)
1980 Liberia
1982 Chad
1983 Grenada
1987 Fiji
1989 Panama
2001 Afghanistan
2002 Venezuela
2003 Iraq
2004 Haiti
2009 Honduras
2011 Libya
2011 Tunisia
2013 Egypt
2014 Ukraine

[Pagan]

^ ^ Then why do we (russians) always fight NOT on their land? Then why are we in Poland, Finland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, in Afghanistan, in Transnistria, Chechnya, Georgia, and now in the Ukraine called the occupiers?

http://politikum.in.ua/post/5sep2014/comments/510-mihail-vistickiy.html

[bryant.coleman]

Then why are we in Poland, Finland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, in Afghanistan

Has the Russian Federation ever invaded Poland? If you are referring to the Russian Empire, then it ceased to exist in 1917. But I have to remind you that the Russian Empire consisted of the present day nations such as Finland, Ukraine.etc and is very very different from the Russian Federation. Should I say that therefore Finland has invaded Poland?

[Pagan]

Then why are we in Poland, Finland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, in Afghanistan

Has the Russian Federation ever invaded Poland? If you are referring to the Russian Empire, then it ceased to exist in 1917. But I have to remind you that the Russian Empire consisted of the present day nations such as Finland, Ukraine.etc and is very very different from the Russian Federation. Should I say that therefore Finland has invaded Poland?

The Soviet invasion of Poland was a Soviet military operation that started without a formal declaration of war on 17 September 1939, immediately after the end of the undeclared war between the Soviet Union and the Empire of Japan at the Battles of Khalkhin Gol (Nomonhan) in the Far East. The Molotov–Tojo agreement between the USSR and Japan was signed on 15 September 1939, with a ceasefire taking effect on 16 September 1939.[6] On 17 September, sixteen days after Nazi Germany invaded Poland from the west, the Soviet Union did so from the east. The invasion ended on 6 October 1939 with the division and annexing of the whole of the Second Polish Republic by Germany and the Soviet Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

The Polish–Soviet War (February 1919 – March 1921) was an armed conflict that pitted Soviet Russia and Soviet Ukraine against the Second Polish Republic and the Ukrainian People's Republic over the control of an area equivalent to today's Ukraine and parts of modern-day Belarus. At some points the war also threatened Poland's e

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War

[bryant.coleman]

^^^ You need to understand some basic facts.

#1. It was the USSR, better known as the Soviet Union which invaded Poland. From 1918 to 1991, there was no Russia.

#2. The USSR, was composed of 15 constituent federal republics. These republics were:  Russian SFSR, Ukrainian SSR, Byelorussian SSR, Uzbek SSR, Kazakh SSR, Georgian SSR, Azerbaijan SSR, Lithuanian SSR, Moldavian SSR, Latvian SSR, Kirghiz SSR, Tajik SSR, Armenian SSR, Turkmen SSR & Estonian SSR.

If you claim that the Russian SFSR invaded Poland, then the facts does not corroborate that. It was invaded by forces from all the 15 constituent federal republics.

[Pagan]

^^^ You need to understand some basic facts.

#1. It was the USSR, better known as the Soviet Union which invaded Poland. From 1918 to 1991, there was no Russia.

#2. The USSR, was composed of 15 constituent federal republics. These republics were:  Russian SFSR, Ukrainian SSR, Byelorussian SSR, Uzbek SSR, Kazakh SSR, Georgian SSR, Azerbaijan SSR, Lithuanian SSR, Moldavian SSR, Latvian SSR, Kirghiz SSR, Tajik SSR, Armenian SSR, Turkmen SSR & Estonian SSR.

If you claim that the Russian SFSR invaded Poland, then the facts does not corroborate that. It was invaded by forces from all the 15 constituent federal republics.

dude, tell me more about 15 republics in 1920 If someone look like ruSSian, talk like ruSSian, smell like ruSSian, then it's probably marsians.


The Polish–Soviet War (February 1919 – March 1921) was an armed conflict that pitted Soviet Russia and Soviet Ukraine against the Second Polish Republic and the Ukrainian People's Republic over the control of an area equivalent to today's Ukraine and parts of modern-day Belarus. At some points the war also threatened Poland's e

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War

[countryfree]

I wonder who is the most dangerous to world peace, IS or Russia. To all countries in Eastern Europe, this is Russia.

The most dangerous country to world peace is the United States of America. IS has invaded 2 countries in the last 50 years. Russia has invaded none. On the other hand, the US has invaded dozens of nations ever since the end of WW2.

Here is the list:

1949 Greece
1952 Cuba
1953 Iran
1953 British Guyana
1954 Guatemala
1955 South Vietnam
1957 Haiti
1958 Laos
1960 South Korea
1960 Laos
1960 Ecuador.
1963 Dominican Republic
1963 South Vietnam
1963 Honduras
1963 Guatemala
1963 Ecuador.
1964 Brazil
1964 Bolivia
1965 Zaire.
1966 Ghana
1967 Greece
1970 Cambodia
1970 Bolivia
1972 El Salvador
1973 Chile
1979 South Korea (Pro-USA government wanted)
1980 Liberia
1982 Chad
1983 Grenada
1987 Fiji
1989 Panama
2001 Afghanistan
2002 Venezuela
2003 Iraq
2004 Haiti
2009 Honduras
2011 Libya
2011 Tunisia
2013 Egypt
2014 Ukraine

Seems you give a new meaning to the term "invasion". Viet Nam was a real invasion, but you can't say America has invaded Ukraine, nor that it invaded Tunisia in 2011. I know that for sure, since I was there at the time.

Whereas in the nineties, Russia had been at war in Georgia and Chechnya, but that's not what I want to talk about.

My point is that people see the biggest danger as the one closest to their home. To a Pole or a Lithuanian watching the news about IS, he will see sunni muslims killing shia muslims, and behading two Americans. That sure is bad, but he won't see any relation between that and himself, nor with his country. But talk to a Pole about what's going on in Ukraine, and he will have plenty to say, all bad about Russia.

It's a negative sign that Russia doesn't enjoy friendly relations with any of its neighbor. Well, Belarus is an exception, but that isn't a free country.

[fsb4000]

Belarus isn't a free country.

You should be ashamed of your brainwashed 

[DarkForces]

Belarus isn't a free country.

You should be ashamed of your brainwashed 

You should be proud of your post-Soviet programming.

From your nation's FAILURE, you have arisen from the ashes as neo-fascists.

Keep killing innocent people, you fucking MONSTERS. WE WILL SLAY YOU.

[bryant.coleman]

It's a negative sign that Russia doesn't enjoy friendly relations with any of its neighbor. Well, Belarus is an exception, but that isn't a free country.

Well, for your information, Russia is a trans-continental country, sharing its border with 16 sovereign states. With some, it enjoy quite frosty relations (such as Poland and Latvia). But with others, there is no lack of warmth in the relationship (Kazakhstan, Belarus, Mongolia, DPRK, China.etc).

And coming back to Belarus, I personally don't care whether it is a free country or not. After the breakup of the USSR, Belarus was the only country which remained stable. It's president refused to nationalize the public assets (i.e selling them to the oligarchs at 1/100th of the original rate).

In the late 1990s, when millions of Ukrainians and Russians were dying from alcoholism and other external causes, the Belorussians enjoyed a modest but stable lifestyle. It is evident from looking at the death rates at that time. Death rates in the Russian and Ukrainian regions bordering Belarus shot up to around 25/1000, while the same in Belarus was around 15/1000. The reason was that drunkard Yeltsin and Kravchuk / Kuchma never bothered about the silent genocide of their people, but Lukashenko did his best to prevent similar incident from happening in Belarus. I have a great deal of respect towards him for that.

[Balthazar]

bryant.coleman, all these things don't matter, because "Belarus is not a free country".

And no matter that taxation systems in many of self-proclaimed free countries are working as countrywide machines of exploitation. Hell yeah, why should somebody care about financial slavery while Belarus is not a free country.