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April 19, 2012, 01:55:17 AM
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Hello all, this is my first post, as well as my first dive into the world of Bitcoins. I heard that BTC allows for somewhat anonymous transactions, and since I'm pretty paranoid with the web, I find this to keep my transactions safe [from family and friends and the people around me].

So a little about me:
I'm a guy who likes to be isolated and goes out whenever I feel like it (I've been diagnosed with several personality disorders, but managed to come to the conclusion that this is complete bullshit and I manage myself with the help of a close friend). I listen to Black Sabbath, Electronica, and orchestral reprises of depressing game OSTs. I work part-time and I plan on becoming a dealer and going to dealer school (I currently am educating myself at one).

Okay, so my question:
How can I help anonymize myself when dealing with Bitcoins? I plan to only use them for purchases, and I don't plan on receiving any [unless somebody wants to share Wink ). I also plan to use it only once, to see how it goes. If my experience is good, I shall continue to use this, perhaps purchasing them on exchange sites using my card. If not, then I will discontinue usage, or maybe use it less frequently/work my ass off trying to exchange Moneypaks.

My second request:
I have a $200 Moneypak card and my ignorance and recklessness made me forget that PayPal has become very untrustworthy in the eyes of most exchange sites. I'd like some Bitcoins, and I would like to have a somewhat decent deal.


If I have missed anything or have broken any rules, please comment back so I can correct the error. I also apologize for cramming what could be posted in 3 different topics into one; I felt that I would be spamming had I posted 3 different topics. Thanks for reading, and many thanks in advance to the guy who makes my day Cheesy
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April 19, 2012, 02:32:14 AM
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I plan on becoming a dealer and going to dealer school (I currently am educating myself at one).
Do you mean, like, a used-car dealer, or a blackjack dealer, or the kind of dealer where if you actually did go to dealer school, you would have learnt not to post on a public forum that you plan on becoming a dealer? Roll Eyes

How can I help anonymize myself when dealing with Bitcoins?
Don't purchase bitcoins in any way that can be traced back to you (ie, use cash). And create a new bitcoin address each time you receive bitcoins.
When buying things with bitcoins, don't have the goods shipped to your real address. Always use a mail drop. And use a different mail drop each time. Of course, mail drops are ridiculously expensive and inconvenient, but can you really put a price on your anonymity? (Very few people actually do this, by the way, and I only mention it to point out that although bitcoins themselves are anonymous, actually spending them anonymously on tangible goods is almost impossible.)

I plan to only use them for purchases, and I don't plan on receiving any [unless somebody wants to share Wink ).
Um, I'm pretty sure you have to receive some bitcoins before you can spend them. Wink

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April 19, 2012, 02:59:10 AM
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Casino game dealer (Right now I'm only doing Blackjack, at my part-time they won't let me deal anything else  Embarrassed).

Yea I plan on purchasing some display weapons, and the seller only works with bitcoins for some reason. I can't find it anywhere else. (I made sure it's legal in my state, no worries. Mainly for display). Those are great tips for anonymity though. Not sure if the mail drops are necessary in my case, since I just want to hide the amount of money I keep online. Like I said, great advice for someone new to bitcoins like me.

Patiently waiting for a savior  Cheesy
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April 19, 2012, 04:14:20 AM
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Just buy the coins like everybody else and anonymize the coins then buy whatever it is you're buying. No reason to show up to a bank wearing a wig and Roy Orbison sunglasses just to buy bitcoins.
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April 19, 2012, 06:24:36 AM
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Not sure if the mail drops are necessary in my case, since I just want to hide the amount of money I keep online.
No, mail drops are generally not necessary unless you're trying to hide something from your spouse, neighbours, cops, etc. For just hiding how much money you have, using different bitcoin addresses is generally sufficient.

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1) Find a reputable bitcoin exchange in your country.
2) Place an order for bitcoins.
3) Pay money. (This is the hard part, since almost nobody accepts PayPal or credit cards due to the chargeback risk.)
4) Receive bitcoins.
5) ? ? ?
6) Profit!

If you want to verify that your software is actually working before you put your money on the line, go to dailybitcoins.org and receive half a bitmill for free (limit of one payout per day). This site takes up to 24 hours to pay out, so be patient.

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April 19, 2012, 10:11:34 AM
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I think you truly have a personality disorder, please consult a doctor, it's good for you
No offense

Moneypak is sometimes insecure, and PayPal too.

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April 19, 2012, 08:55:42 PM
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You see, I don't know any sites that accept Paypal, and I now have this Moneypak card that I don't want to deposit into Paypal yet.

Do you guys know any sites that accept Paypal for Bitcoins?
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April 19, 2012, 09:46:04 PM
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Why do you insist on PayPal? What is your reason for not paying cash?

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April 19, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
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Well simply put I'm too lazy to go out and buy a prepaid card to refund with the moneypak, since I lose more money on that, but I guess that I'll use something else... I guess I was kind of impatient, and I apologize for that.

I will get my money back and lose at most 4.95 in the process, and I'll probably open up a Liberty Reserve account and buy some from Mt. Gox.

Again, I apologize if I came across wrong.

Thanks for all of the advice though, it really is helping me.

Is there a guide that will help me purchase bitcoins from Mt. gox using a Liberty Reserve account?


Edit:
It's not that I don't want to pay in cash, it's that I am ignorant noob and I'm not familiar with wiring money and such. I will do it, but if there are other ways, I'd prefer those instead.
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