Offering loans

[iluvbitcoins]

how much do they earn daily?

1 MHS earns ~ 0.0007 BTC/day
I plan to purchase 10 MHS so its daily income is about 0.007 BTC

Thats why i asked for 90 days.
It pays the loan amount and ill pay the interest.
Actually i can pay You the interest in a few days or week.

My idea is to set YOUR BITCOIN ADDRESS as a hashlet payout address for 90 days, so You'll receive ~0.007BTC daily...

How bout that ?

if I was going to loan you money to buy hashlets on ZenMiner

why wouldn't I buy them on my own?

I thought you already had 10 MHS

[reidel21]

What's with the delay dude? I just sent you my stellar and you went offline?? Just give me back my stellar and the deal is off. That's a bad move dude.

Just a warning: Use an escrow when dealing with this guy.

[iluvbitcoins]

...

you only sent 8k, the deal was 17k, I PMed you that the price fell and it's not 120% now
I went offline for less then an hour

those 8k Stellars are only worth 0.06BTC
do you really think I would scam you for that little and risk my account trust?

[reidel21]

You agreed that we will do it in batches. I sent you 8K according to our deal but you didn't send the 0.055BTC and you asked me to send another 12K?? WTF? If I send the 12K you will ran away.. So the deal is off dude I had enough of this.

You can't blame me dude because I went first. It was you who was tricky from the start.

Warning: This guy is tricky. Use escrow and never go first if big money is involved.

[iluvbitcoins]

You agreed that we will do it in batches. I sent you 8K according to our deal but you didn't send the 0.055BTC and you asked me to send another 12K?? WTF? If I send the 12K you will ran away.. So the deal is off dude I had enough of this.

lier, please provide when did I ask that, I asked this as stated in reply #83



I kept it as you asked, half now and I give you half bitcoins, then the other half

However the price fallen and I contacted you to chip in the remaining 2K

But if you're going to lie like this, I wouldn't give you the loan now anyways

You can't blame me dude because I went first. It was your who was tricky from the start.

what??

YOU wanted me to send first

You need the loan, YOU are supposed to send first
You don't have any trust and you're only a Member

I have done a lot of trades, it's is logical that the one with no trust whatsoever sends first

Warning: This guy is tricky. Use escrow and never go first if big money is involved.

chronicsky went first with 0.75BTC worth of Kashmircoin, and I don't see him complaining




You would scam me for the market difference?

only current price of collateral matters, we're not trading alt coins

you're using it as collateral!

it means, if it goes down I ask you to provide more or I sell

of course I'm asking you to provide collateral at current prices, why the hell would I care what the price was 5 hours ago??

[reidel21]

Cheap trick mate. Who in the world would send 20K stellar without an escrow? We agreed to send it in 2 batches so I sent you 8K if only you send me 0.053BTC then I would have send you another 8K and everything would have went smoothly but you're just too greedy for asking me to send 12K more to make it 20K. Why would I send you 12K if you didn't even send me a single satoshi???

[iluvbitcoins]

Cheap trick mate. Who in the world would send 20K stellar without an escrow? We agreed to send it in 2 batches so I sent you 8K if only you send me 0.053BTC then I would have send you another 8K and everything would have went smoothly but you're just too greedy for asking me to send 12K more to make it 20K. Why would I send you 12K if you didn't even me send a single satoshi???

did you not see the screenshot I posted?

I asked you to send 2K more BECAUSE IT WASN'T 120% AS WE AGREED, then I would send 0.055BTC

then you would send 10k and I 0.055BTC again

I never asked you to send 12K, stop lying

I said we can do escrow if you want to

[reidel21]

Cheap trick mate. Who in the world would send 20K stellar without an escrow? We agreed to send it in 2 batches so I sent you 8K if only you send me 0.053BTC then I would have send you another 8K and everything would have went smoothly but you're just too greedy for asking me to send 12K more to make it 20K. Why would I send you 12K if you didn't even me send a single satoshi???

did you not see the screenshot I posted?

I asked you to send 2K more BECAUSE IT WASN'T 120% AS WE AGREED, then I would send 0.055BTC

then you would send 10k and I 0.055BTC again

I never asked you to send 12K, stop lying

I said we can do escrow if you want to

The fact of the matter is you went offline for an hour after I sent you 8K stellar and I didn't get any response from you. Cheap trick dude, you did it on purpose so that if stellar price will go down you will ask for more stellar. We already made a deal of 16K stellar as collateral for my loan but you changed your mind and wanted for 20K stellar. You're the liar here not me. We are in a middle of a trade and you went offline after receiving my stellar? That's a foul dude.

[iluvbitcoins]

The fact of the matter is you went offline for an hour after I sent you 8K stellar and I didn't get any response from you. Cheap trick dude, you did it on purpose so that if stellar price will go down you will ask for more stellar. We already made a deal of 16K stellar as collateral for my loan but you changed your mind and wanted for 20K stellar. You're the liar here not me. We are in a middle of a trade and you went offline after receiving my stellar? That's a foul dude.

I didn't go offline
I just went off bitcontalk because I have things to do besides bitcoin, however I was waiting for the remaining 2K with my Stellar open, which never arrived
why would I lend you if you don't honor my rules? I require 120% unless you're a trusted member and that's it, if you can't provide that, gtfo my thread

you changed the deal, not me!

the initial deal was 0.1BTC

you asked for 0.11BTC later trough PM

the bolded part

oh my god

the deal is, if collateral goes under 110% I sell it

was I supposed to sell the stellars you just sent me  

would you be more happy if I did that? Or that I wanted to help you and asked for 2K more?

and you broke the initial rule of this thread

you contacted me trough PM asking for a 0.11BTC loan, altough the first line in the OP is literally

No requests trough PM

[reidel21]

you changed the deal, not me!

the initial deal was 0.1BTC

you asked for 0.11BTC later trough PM

the bolded part

oh my god

Liar.. You can see it here in my post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772348.msg9030064#msg9030064
It's very clear that I'm asking 0.11BTC and 16K stellar as collateral. Don't lie dude my previous posts are enough evidence.

And here's your post that you want 16K stellar as collateral
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772348.msg9032501#msg9032501

[iluvbitcoins]

you changed the deal, not me!

the initial deal was 0.1

you asked for 0.11BTC later trough PM

the bolded part

oh my god

Liar.. You can see it here in my post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772348.msg9030064#msg9030064
It's very clear that I'm asking 0.11BTC and 16K stellar as collateral. Don't lie dude my previous posts are enough evidence.

nope

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772348.msg9023774#msg9023774

as you can see this reply was earlier

after I granted the loan

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772348.msg9029709#msg9029709

and what are these?



seems like messages, not posts in the thread  

+ you wrote 0.55 instead of 0.055 twice, suspicious

then you didn't want to provide 120% collateral as agreed, and required that I still give you the same amount of bitcoins altough Stellar value went down

you sent me a total of 11 messages

you wanted to avoid people to see what you're doing and accuse me of it in the thread

but I'll post screenshots

[iluvbitcoins]

what's wrong? did the cat get your tongue?

[reidel21]

The 16K stellar was 120% collateral as what we have agreed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772348.msg9032501#msg9032501
You said 16K would suffice and when I sent you the half which is 8K all of a sudden you went offline. Then an hour later you wanted me to send another 2K because you changed your mind and you want 20K instead of 16K. So I PMed you to just send me 0.053BTC or the deal is off. You still want me to send you 20K stellar but I decided to cancel the deal and you still didn't send my stellar back. So I decided to post in this thread and warn other members of your cheap trick. I was asking for 0.053 instead of 0.055 and since you didn't send anything it's just right to cancel the deal no other option.

That's what really happened.

[iluvbitcoins]

The 16K stellar was 120% collateral as what we have agreed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772348.msg9032501#msg9032501
You said 16K would suffice

of course!

Stellar was 850 Satoshi then

In the time you sent me the 8k Stellars it was ~750

when I sent you the half which is 8K all of a sudden you went offline.

it was 40 minutes and as I said I didn't go offline, I wasn't even on bitcointalk!

I just did a quick-login to respond to requests and PMs, I came back 40 minutes later to recheck

it's not my fault you're so impatient

Then an hour later you wanted me to send another 2K because you changed your mind and you want 20K instead of 16K.

I said 18k is needed, but 20 would be appreciated

why the fuck would I lend you if I would get less collateral then the bitcoins I'm giving you?

it's implied that the amount changes or I sell [as described in the OP, and numerous replies to you]

so you would be more happy if I sold your stellars?

you can send them to me right away and I'll sell them, nothing to worry about then

So I PMed you to just send me 0.053BTC or the deal is off. You still want me to send you 20K stellar but I decided to cancel the deal and you still didn't send my stellar back.

That's the what really happened.

not true, I asked if you still wanted the deal



when you said no



I immediately sent the Stellars

So I decided to post in this thread and warn other members of your cheap trick.

what freaking trick??

the trick where I ask for 120% collateral as agreed?

the trick when I send you 8000 stellars when you said you don't want to deal?

which trick excatly are you talking about?

[reidel21]

Enough of this.. It's your fault you went offline on purpose during a trade. Just don't do it again next time.

Timeline:
You agreed of the deal 16K stellar as collateral and will be sent in batches.
I sent the 8K and you went offline for an hour.
Stellar price went down from 840 - 806 sat @ http://www.stellarvalue.org/
You came back and asking for 20K instead of the 16K
It's kind of unfair because you already agreed on the 16K from the start.
I asked you to just send me 0.053 instead of 0.055 because I understand that the value went down
You insist and you want me to add 2K stellar
I cancelled the deal and requested you to return my stellar
You didn't return my stellar nor send 0.053BTC
So I decided to post in your thread to warn other members
Then you returned my stellar after reading my post.

[iluvbitcoins]

Enough of this.. It's your fault you went offline on purpose during a trade. Just don't do it again next time.

Timeline:
You agreed of the deal 16K stellar as collateral and will be sent in batches.
I sent the 8K and you went offline for an hour.
Stellar price went down from 840 - 806 sat @ http://www.stellarvalue.org/
You came back and asking for 20K instead of the 16K
It's kind of unfair because you already agreed on the 16K from the start.
I asked you to just send me 0.053 instead of 0.055 because I understand that the value went down
You insist and you want me to add 2K stellar
I cancelled the deal and requested you to return my stellar
You didn't return my stellar nor send 0.053BTC
So I decided to post in your thread to warn other members
Then you returned my stellar after reading my post

it is not

I went off bitcointalk for 40 minutes, but I kept Stellar open to see if you send, which you didn't

here we go again with stellarvalue.org...

it does not matter what value does the website say, it's only important what the buying price is on the exchanges

and it wasn't 806 but ~750

yes, you agreed to let me sell if value goes down, but I didn't because I wanted to help you as you said and I quote "please don't sell my stellars if value goes down"
and now you're grilling me for not selling

You didn't return my stellar nor send 0.053BTC

you freaking lier, I sent you the Stellars seconds after you sent me your address!!



why dafauq would I want to steal pennies?

8000 Stellars is nothing, if you were early in Stellar you would know that only justcoin and bx.in.th accepted Stellar
these are my withdrawls on justcoin [all from Stellar, I only registered because of it]

and trades on bx.in.th


if you add all of them individualy, you'll see that only on bx.in.th I sold exactly 61 480 Stellars

and if you add up all withdrawls from justcoin they count exactly 0,88454BTC in withdrawls from only Stellar deposits
in todays price it would count to exactly 107 732 Stellars

I can conclude, your 8000 Stellars don't mean shit to me

[reidel21]

You can see it in your screen shot. 1 hour difference between the two transactions. What did you do during the 1 hour? I don't care about your stellar trades in the past because it's easy to edit pictures or take it from someone else. 

[iluvbitcoins]

You can see it in your screen shot. 1 hour difference between the two transactions. What did you do during the 1 hour? I don't care about your stellar trades in the past because it's easy to edit pictures or take it from someone else.

yes, and this one says this



stellar rounds up time of sending

I was absent for 40 minutes, I can't just sit around and stare at the screen until you decide to send



If you want to, I will provide you my password from justcoin and bx.in.th account since I don't use them anymore

You can see for yourself the pictures aren't edited

[reidel21]

If you want to, I will provide you my password from the justcoin and bx.in.th account since I don't use them anymore

You can see for yourself the pictures aren't edited

Congrats

[iluvbitcoins]

I seriously don't know what are you pissed for?

You sent 0.05BTC of coins for a 0.11BTC loan

I returned them as soon as I got online

Seriously dude, I should give you bad feedback for trying to trick me into paying 850 Satoshis per Stellar while the price was ~750

+ you ignored all rules from the OP [2 out of 2]

No requests trough PM
120% Collateral is a must