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Author Topic: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL Singles Order Date / Ship Date  (Read 94811 times)
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June 15, 2012, 02:04:20 AM
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This is an interesting statement:

None have shipped so far they claim that the reason they have shipped so few of the single units over the last couple of weeks is to work on getting these out the door plus they supposedly have big ASIC announcement due on the 15th of June that makes these machines obsolete.

Dillgaf, nobody ever said such a thing.  Quite the opposite, actually.  We have two distinctly separate production lines.  The singles are shipping in volume again and have been for some time. 
So, most buyers of these things are not participants of this thread?

What does "volume" mean?
It means that as much as everyone here would like for the world to revolve around the forum, it actually doesn't.

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June 15, 2012, 02:24:36 AM
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It means that as much as everyone here would like for the world to revolve around the forum, it actually doesn't.

Still if the list is a semi-random subset of all orders going from a period of high delivery to roughly 2.5 weeks with 0 deliveries would indicate they aren't shipping in volume.  One or two days could just be sampling error but the odds that BFL shipped out hundred and hundreds of units over the last 3 weeks and it just happened that nobody on the list was one of them is well ... unlikely.

Even if it is true it would indicate the perceived improvement to delivery times was just an illusion and in fact delivery times haven't improved much at all.
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June 15, 2012, 06:17:59 AM
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It means that as much as everyone here would like for the world to revolve around the forum, it actually doesn't.
Assumptions:
1) Bitcoin Miners are not Gaussian distributions of all Internet population
2) Bitcoin Miners do their research and land on the best source of information for their interest
3) Here it is as far as the best source of community info. (Have you found a better source of info? - Link please.)

Known:
1) BFL is a bit 'loose' with accuracy of statements/predictions
2) rate of shipments/deliveries as reported on this thread

Result:
BFL's word/statements ain't worth s**t.


Please counter with facts, not emotions / flames.
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June 15, 2012, 03:33:35 PM
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Contemplating cancelling my orders (they are well beyond 6 weeks now)....the possibility of ASIC being released soon is scaring me.

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June 15, 2012, 05:18:22 PM
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Contemplating cancelling my orders (they are well beyond 6 weeks now)....the possibility of ASIC being released soon is scaring me.
You shouldn't cancel. You should sell your place in line.

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June 15, 2012, 05:21:48 PM
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Contemplating cancelling my orders (they are well beyond 6 weeks now)....the possibility of ASIC being released soon is scaring me.
You shouldn't cancel. You should sell your place in line.
No, he should just cancel.  Wink
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June 15, 2012, 05:29:31 PM
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Contemplating cancelling my orders (they are well beyond 6 weeks now)....the possibility of ASIC being released soon is scaring me.
You shouldn't cancel. You should sell your place in line.

How do those work? Does bfl just ship to the new address?

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June 15, 2012, 05:39:47 PM
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Y'know, I don't mind the long lead time so much, I understand how easy it is to get behind on orders when your product is more successful than you expected. What annoys me is the lack of transparency - update your web site to reflect real ship times instead of continuing to promise 4-6 weeks, y'know?

My wife, on the other hand, isn't quite as understanding as I am about the lead time Grin

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June 15, 2012, 05:53:41 PM
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Meanwhile we march closer to the reward-halving.
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June 15, 2012, 08:09:53 PM
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Meanwhile we march closer to the reward-halving.
Wondering how that is going to effect things actually.

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June 16, 2012, 01:46:58 AM
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Ordered: June 15 2012
Quantity: 7

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June 16, 2012, 09:43:04 AM
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I received my 10 singles: 2 singles on June 12, and 8 on June 13.
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June 16, 2012, 03:31:30 PM
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I received my 10 singles: 2 singles on June 12, and 8 on June 13.

77 and 78 days respectively. ouch. atleast they are now good for $6 grand worth of asics eventually. ;p

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June 16, 2012, 03:45:00 PM
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At 800mhash: The expected generation output, at 800000 Khps, given current difficulty of 1583177.847444 , is 0.508257935624 BTC per day and 0.0211774139843 BTC per hour
At current exchange rate of $6.50USD/btc:  $3.30/day

To pay off $633 Bitforce single: ~191 days.
Time until reward halves: ~175 days.

Ergh, I hope mine ship soon :<

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June 16, 2012, 03:46:19 PM
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At 800mhash: The expected generation output, at 800000 Khps, given current difficulty of 1583177.847444 , is 0.508257935624 BTC per day and 0.0211774139843 BTC per hour
At current exchange rate of $6.50USD/btc:  $3.30/day

To pay off $633 Bitforce single: ~191 days.
Time until reward halves: ~175 days.

Ergh, I hope mine ship soon :<


don't forget to calculate increasing difficulty into your figures. Its due to go up 100k just this next time. But, on the plus side the price has been increasing lately. ;p

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June 16, 2012, 05:12:35 PM
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How do those work? Does bfl just ship to the new address?

As I found out no.  They won't.  Still if someone trusts you (or trusts escrow) then can pay for your spot, BFL ships, you ship to them.

That is how I auctioned my spot.  Of course I figured it would have shipped two weeks ago.  Roughly 100+ units on the list went out of the course of 2 weeks.  Then when I am <10 units from the top of the list.  Nothing.  The guy who bought my spot is kinda pissed but has been pretty understanding about it all. 

If you auction them make sure you make it clear that there is no way to know/guarantee when the units will actually ship. 
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4/24/2012  1  ~6/20/2012  57  hausmarke

Wait WTF?  
How did a unit ordered on 4/24 already ship when there are about 80+ units ahead of it in line which haven't?  Hell there are units from March which haven't shipped yet.
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June 16, 2012, 06:06:25 PM
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Ordered: April 24, 2012
Confirmed: April 25, 2012
Shipped: June 12, 2012
Estimated arrival: June 20, 2012
Qty: 1

That's what he posted..

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June 16, 2012, 08:40:32 PM
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Ordered: April 24, 2012
Confirmed: April 25, 2012
Shipped: June 12, 2012
Estimated arrival: June 20, 2012
Qty: 1

That's what he posted..

Did he receive a tracking confirmation?

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June 16, 2012, 11:49:58 PM
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I have ordered 2 of these one of 4/7/2012 and one on 4/27/2012 I just got the priority flat rate box tracking info yesterday, still does not showing where it is transit wise. So excited to get my first one in! I will post when its received.

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