Is Monero a proper alt coin ? or political propaganda scam fraud ?

[From Above]

Some have argued that the utter Nazi principles and methods used in the monero community make it political propaganda project ponzi scheme and not a coin.  can monero be considered 'altcoin' or would it fall under political investment fraud scheme then ?

the grand Fuhrer Risto Pietila (self proclaimed monero admin) is ready to eradicate all other altcoins including Bitcoin to make Monero #1 in the world by using a hardcore shill force of self-moderation and forcing u to have a particular opinion.  he/it doesnt care about all the bugs and hardcore inferior protocol of xmr - he just care about the ideological warfare against crypto coins other than Ristomero to make another good buck from his hardliner slaves (xmr bagholders) !  pretty scary shit brewing here if u ask me and #1 fail ive seen in crypto so far cuz 98% hate the coin to death.   i wonder when the allied forces will set an end to it; but Risto the grand slaveholder goes on and on as long as he can !


~CfA~

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[CryptoCarmen]

It is a Cryptonote. Go read about it: https://forum.cryptonote.org/

[FinlandSkinhead]

stfu you fucking noob Monero is better then Bitcoin and we will beat you jealous shithad

[CryptoCarmen]

stfu you fucking noob Monero is better then Bitcoin and we will beat you jealous shithad

Dont be so mad at him, i mean you.
He wrote that just to upset you, i mean he wrote that just to upset him. No you wrote it just to upset him, no i mean you.

[FinlandSkinhead]

stfu you fucking noob Monero is better then Bitcoin and we will beat you jealous shithad

Dont be so mad at him, i mean you.
He wrote that just to upset you, i mean he wrote that just to upset him. No you wrote it just to upset him, no i mean you.

I tell you what,  Carmen.
Little enemies like this guy will burn,  burn hard.
Burn like everything when we're ready.
Many will fail.  Totally fail.
Monero will kill the weak enemies one by one, brutally and without mercy.

[From Above]

stfu you fucking noob Monero is better then Bitcoin and we will beat you jealous shithad

Dont be so mad at him, i mean you.
He wrote that just to upset you, i mean he wrote that just to upset him. No you wrote it just to upset him, no i mean you.

I tell you what,  Carmen.
Little enemies like this guy will burn,  burn hard.
Burn like everything when we're ready.
Many will fail.  Totally fail.
Monero will kill the weak enemies one by one, brutally and without mercy.

LOL u tard ohhh how very frightening
LMAOH

~CfA~

[MaxDZ8]

I want to congratulate with FinlandSkinhead, every time I read those kind of things I grow convinced I should not give a damn fuck about XMR.

[FinlandSkinhead]

I want to congratulate with FinlandSkinhead, every time I read those kind of things I grow convinced I should not give a damn fuck about XMR.

Worry not, MaxDZ8.  The weak and poor don't have place in XMR either way.

[From Above]

I want to congratulate with FinlandSkinhead, every time I read those kind of things I grow convinced I should not give a damn fuck about XMR.

Worry not, MaxDZ8.  The weak and poor don't have place in XMR either way.

U need mental help

~CfA~

[FinlandSkinhead]

I want to congratulate with FinlandSkinhead, every time I read those kind of things I grow convinced I should not give a damn fuck about XMR.

Worry not, MaxDZ8.  The weak and poor don't have place in XMR either way.

U need mental help

~CfA~

I know that you fear,  all mentally retarded fear Monero's massive power.  Your fear is appropriate.


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[Ultros]

*Pretend to be a Monero shill spamming massive bullshit and nazi trolling*

Ignored.

[fluffypony]

Hello.

Monero core team member here.

Monero is an "altcoin" in the sense that it is an alternative cryptocurrency to Bitcoin, and in the context of Bitcointalk it is most definitely thus viewed as an altcoin. It shares no code with Bitcoin, however, and does not use the Bitcoin protocol. In that sense is not what is commonly viewed as an "altcoin".

As developers and core team members we cannot control what people do or say, and we have little influence over everyone's view of Monero. In the same way we are dispassionate towards any of Monero's use-cases (as and when it is eventually able to be useable and useful).

If somebody wants to use Monero to buy something to which I (personally) am morally opposed...well...I may be offended, but I certainly will not stand in their way to spend their Monero on whatever they see fit. Similarly, if someone wants to create hundreds of threads on this forum praising Monero or bashing Monero...well...I may agree or disagree, but I will not stand in their way.

At the very least I would suggest that everyone choose to ignore supporters AND detractors of Monero, and instead focus on the cryptographically sound technical merits of a cryptocurrency that we hope will have longevity and usefulness in the coming years.

[Nullu]

Come-from-Above never fails to deliver the butthurt.

I don't know enough about Monero to have an objective opinion. Although I have noticed that it's defended quite aggressively.

[MaxDZ8]

At the very least I would suggest that everyone choose to ignore supporters AND detractors of Monero, and instead focus on the cryptographically sound technical merits of a cryptocurrency that we hope will have longevity and usefulness in the coming years.

With all the due respect fluffy, this is bullshit. You are proposing a technology whose main merit is full untraceability and accept the presence of idiots posting nazi shit.
I could respect the concept if it was just for buying dildos or porn or the internet but the picture here is way darker... I do not want to mine a coin which seems to have taken such interest from the violents and the idiots, no matter what the technological merits are. God only knows what kind of transactions I could be processing.
Take a position to defend your asset and IP. The noise levels are extreme and whatever it's important gets lost in a sea of bullshit, and I'm telling you that exactly because I'm interested in the technology.

[MalMen]

Hi, i am new here on forum but i am living a long time on irc, so dont missplace me as an "new created account just to support monero"
well, i was reading alot here on this forum, and agree and disagree with alot of views like everyone, but even before i start to reading on this forum about monero i was "pushed" to monero world like alot of people.. i think the problem here in this forum is that is alot of pushers, and the people how dont like monero trends to hate that..
Well, this is my personal opinion based on my knowage about monero..
Like fluffypony said monero is not based on bitcoin like the 90% of what called altcoins, what for me is awsome... the code needs to improve alot, thats one thing for sure, it is forked from something that was not very well coded, but i had seen the developpers working and i trust them to do that, and even help them where i can.
I see some problems with the coin, need some API to day-to-day use, but bitcoin also needed that few years ago, and now is running like a real good machine.
The main point on this coin is the annon (dont know how to write the all workd now xD) and untracable transactions, bitcoin just by himself cant provide that, need 3th party companies to do that, what will work good with bitcoin on my opinion.. but monero brings that on their own what is realy realy nice...
I see i coin with good and inovation features growing up and i am investing in it for the future, i realy see people using this in the future, and the coin is in realy yong days, i hold >5000 coins and i am pround of them, maybe i get burn maybe not, but its realy one step looking into the future...

for me is like investing in bitcoin +/- in 2010, i dont see monero beeing in front of bitcoin in near days, but have alot of potencial to be the secound, alot of people think it is the secound coin now, i dont think that way yet, but i see the potencial in it


Lovers gonna love haters gonna hate, allways was this way and will continue to be..


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I do not want to mine a coin which seems to have taken such interest from the violents and the idiots, no matter what the technological merits are. God only knows what kind of transactions I could be processing.

Bitcoin was used early on silkroad to buy drugs and other stuff and i dont see people complaining now... (and probably continue right now.. as i know the leaked nudes had been paied in bitcoins)..
of course monero will be used for that kind of stuff.. its inevitable, but thats not even close of main point for me, the main point is been annon from the network... i dont like when the governement ask bank for my account, and i will not like years from now when governament can  trace and know where did my money gonne

legal or ilegal, its one question of privacy

[othe]

MaxDZ8, Hu?
That´s from some haters and we can do nothing against that.

Thats it, this whole forum is a mess and whatever the Moderators do - it isn´t enough it seems.
Don´t blame us that you can register here without even verifying your email and then write as much shit as you want without ever getting banned.

Some threads are self-moderated to stop this bullshit posting, then they come out and draw nazi pictures...whatever you do is wrong here anyway.

Come to irc, its a lot more friendly, talking and discussing here is simply not possible it seems.

[newuser01]

Some have argued that the utter Nazi principles and methods used in the monero community make it political propaganda project ponzi scheme and not a coin.  can monero be considered 'altcoin' or would it fall under political investment fraud scheme then ?

the grand Fuhrer Risto Pietila (self proclaimed monero admin) is ready to eradicate all other altcoins including Bitcoin to make Monero #1 in the world by using a hardcore shill force of self-moderation and forcing u to have a particular opinion.  he/it doesnt care about all the bugs and hardcore inferior protocol of xmr - he just care about the ideological warfare against crypto coins other than Ristomero to make another good buck from his hardliner slaves (xmr bagholders) !  pretty scary shit brewing here if u ask me and #1 fail ive seen in crypto so far cuz 98% hate the coin to death.   i wonder when the allied forces will set an end to it; but Risto the grand slaveholder goes on and on as long as he can !


~CfA~

so desperate to FUD monero

whats up??? U dont have investment in XMR?? all u have is NXT??

XMR is not 100% premine so maybe its not for u??

hahah

[Ultros]

Let's be serious for a second... Yes XMR has very annoying shills and multiple (maybe too many) supportive threads on this forum... but it's also rather evident that half of the monero "pushers" are in fact people that want to FUD monero by creating ridiculous fake-shills that everybody will hate. That FinlandSkinhead fake account is a perfect example. Who would seriously mix a nazi flag and Monero except someone that want to destroy XMR popularity?
Any honest reader can't fall to such an obvious trick.

[MaxDZ8]

Bitcoin was used early on silkroad to buy drugs and other stuff and i dont see people complaining now... (and probably continue right now.. as i know the leaked nudes had been paied in bitcoins)..

And the FBI demostrated the advantages of the traceable tech by confiscating to the last penny.
Are you a drug dealer? A corrupt politician? A sex slave trader? Please do use blockchain!

legal or ilegal, its one question of privacy

It seems to me the principles on which your life is based are fairly relative things. This privacy is more than already fully guaranteed by the basic tech, not to mention stealth addresses. I honestly cannot picture myself in a situation needing more privacy protection than that... as you said: it was designed for drugs.

Nonetheless, it does not matter. Attacked by third parties or not the potential for misuse is immense: it's basically the best of BTC protocol... with the worse of fiat. If someone wants to damage XMR you guys should start thinking about taking note this damage is happening, is real and should be stopped and you, as proposers, must do something.

[MalMen]

No research behind, but i am almost sure that the fiat coins and fiat money are the top currencies used to buy drugs and money, should be banned to ? just saying...

anyway, i am not here to convert no one, everyone should take their own  conclusions and invest or not.. so, if you dont like dont invest in it.. its easy...