Monero is dying, and I told you it would (not self-moderated)

[rikkejohn]

The Monero shill boys, taking breaks between school or looking after their mums, have been rather vocal.

But I suspect the price hit a week or two ago was the height of Monero's promise.

This will be a dirty sell off, and  expect the duped punters to throw it all away after it drops another 25%.

Dead Coin Walking.

Funny thing is, all the fuss made, yet nobody apart from a handful of people even knew how to use the wallet (64 bit only, and no promises that it will work).

Oh dear.

[CoinRocka]

The Monero shill boys, taking breaks between school or looking after their mums, have been rather vocal.

But I suspect the price hit a week or two ago was the height of Monero's promise.

This will be a dirty sell off, and  expect the duped punters to throw it all away after it drops another 25%.

Dead Coin Walking.

Funny thing is, all the fuss made, yet nobody apart from a handful of people even knew how to use the wallet (64 bit only, and no promises that it will work).

Oh dear.

turd

[rikkejohn]

The Monero shill boys, taking breaks between school or looking after their mums, have been rather vocal.

But I suspect the price hit a week or two ago was the height of Monero's promise.

This will be a dirty sell off, and  expect the duped punters to throw it all away after it drops another 25%.

Dead Coin Walking.

Funny thing is, all the fuss made, yet nobody apart from a handful of people even knew how to use the wallet (64 bit only, and no promises that it will work).

Oh dear.

turd

Now you'e being all personal, bag-holding dupe or shillboy?

[mr_random]

General rule of thumb for alt coins - the more trolls it attracts, the more potential it has.

[ArticMine]

General rule of thumb for alt coins - the more trolls it attracts, the more potential it has.

+1

[Fuserleer]

General rule of thumb for alt coins - the more trolls it attracts, the more potential it has.

HERE HERE!! 

[Spoetnik]

What ? LOL
Did you guys just say that ? Oh really
I guess i will spend my life saving on investing in URO or ORB or Noble Coin or or or..

Gimme a fucking break 

This right here proves why you shouldn't listen to veteran accounts.. they are often just idiot bag holders spouting off nonsense all the time.

[uvt9]

yeah right, listen to Spoetnik, buy endorsed-by-him coins, i.e. Jackpot and Maxcoin

lol

[Moneroman88]

What a fucking retard topic.

Monero already is by far the number one, technology-wise, community-wise, best coin hands down number one above all / except the price that's gonna follow gradually. If you want a lot of money (you probably do) and become a millionaire along the line (you probably want that) buy Monero while it is cheap as fuck. It's hands down the best possible coin, even Bitcoin is nothing against Monero. We have real privacy and real developers, world adoption imminent. All other altcoins are scams at their best and just outright ridiculously crappy. Needless to say if you invest in other coins you will lose your invested money whereas you will be rich buying Monero. This is the very law of success. Everyone can become multimillionaire with Monero, I'd argue 1-2 BTC investment is enough to become millionaire through XMR. And the best about it is that you won't have to convert to FIAT because it will be accepted all over the world within 5 years. Yes you read that right, even your mother will use it. No matter where, Monero will be all around the world payable via NFC.

Monero gives a flying fuck about tards talking crap like OP

[Spoetnik]

yeah right, listen to Spoetnik, buy endorsed-by-him coins, i.e. Jackpot and Maxcoin

lol

you'll notice i don't push the coin on anyone and i have stated why i chose what coins i use..
i have always had a laid back you all do what you want approach to this stuff.
i don't take a pay check to advertise a coin like some guys do / have in the past.

my criteria is least worst LOL
as in i look for what suits my needs and try and find the one that's the least worst of what is out there
and i would rather support *older coins too

i could explain right here why i choose to support those two coins but i won't bother..
because i don't come here to shill..
when it comes down to it i don't really care what coins people want to use.
so unlike Monero or NEM or NXT guys i don't sit here 24/7 creating new topics to advertise to the point of sickening the community.

I chose what i did for me and my reasons for my purposes.. choose what ever coin(s) you want for your own reasons.
And yeah i have posted the odd random fanboy topic for say Jackpotcoin but i did so pretty much just joking
or to point out how bad some of the shills here are.

[Spoetnik]

What a fucking retard topic.

Monero already is by far the number one, technology-wise, community-wise, best coin hands down number one above all / except the price that's gonna follow gradually. If you want a lot of money (you probably do) and become a millionaire along the line (you probably want that) buy Monero while it is cheap as fuck. It's hands down the best possible coin, even Bitcoin is nothing against Monero. We have real privacy and real developers, world adoption imminent. All other altcoins are scams at their best and just outright ridiculously crappy. Needless to say if you invest in other coins you will lose your invested money whereas you will be rich buying Monero. This is the very law of success. Everyone can become multimillionaire with Monero, I'd argue 1-2 BTC investment is enough to become millionaire through XMR. And the best about it is that you won't have to convert to FIAT because it will be accepted all over the world within 5 years. Yes you read that right, even your mother will use it. No matter where, Monero will be all around the world payable via NFC.

Monero gives a flying fuck about tards talking crap like OP

Monero is a clone of Cryptonote one of your cheerleaders said the other day.. that sums it up LOL

[rikkejohn]

General rule of thumb for alt coins - the more trolls it attracts, the more potential it has.

That is based on absolutely nothing other than you want XMR to grow.

Incidentally, I am not a Troll. I have an honest agenda, which is to point out that XMR is, in my opinion, a coin going nowhere.

I would not have bothered, but the shills and what appears to be a blatant attempt to use BTCtalk as a platform to spread propaganda by a significant number of people needs countering.

If you're secure, then posts like mine would be ignored, surely?

[rikkejohn]

What a fucking retard topic.

Monero already is by far the number one, technology-wise, community-wise, best coin hands down number one above all / except the price that's gonna follow gradually. If you want a lot of money (you probably do) and become a millionaire along the line (you probably want that) buy Monero while it is cheap as fuck. It's hands down the best possible coin, even Bitcoin is nothing against Monero. We have real privacy and real developers, world adoption imminent. All other altcoins are scams at their best and just outright ridiculously crappy. Needless to say if you invest in other coins you will lose your invested money whereas you will be rich buying Monero. This is the very law of success. Everyone can become multimillionaire with Monero, I'd argue 1-2 BTC investment is enough to become millionaire through XMR. And the best about it is that you won't have to convert to FIAT because it will be accepted all over the world within 5 years. Yes you read that right, even your mother will use it. No matter where, Monero will be all around the world payable via NFC.

Monero gives a flying fuck about tards talking crap like OP

Just read your post, and then get back to us about how which poster has a clear learning difficulty.

"What a fucking retard topic".

"Monero gives a flying fuck about tards talking crap like OP".

I didn't even read the rest.

[Spoetnik]

General rule of thumb for alt coins - the more trolls it attracts, the more potential it has.

That is based on absolutely nothing other than you want XMR to grow.

Incidentally, I am not a Troll. I have an honest agenda, which is to point out that XMR is, in my opinion, a coin going nowhere.

I would not have bothered, but the shills and what appears to be a blatant attempt to use BTCtalk as a platform to spread propaganda by a significant number of people needs countering.

If you're secure, then posts like mine would be ignored, surely?

i think your assertions on the Monero situation are rather logical and seemingly honest.
It doesn't mean that Monero bag holders have to agree with you like i do but to just try and wright you off as a Troll is silly.
And what i heard from your first post was a valid and fair point(s) that will benefit new users.

We have ALL ALONG heard this or that "coin" is a sure thing and is "going to the moon"
and in the last year i have watched them all die off in value etc..
The crap some of the Monero cheerleaders here are proclaiming about Monero seem ludicrous and maybe out right dishonest.
Which should be countered some what for a more accurate perspective for users that will not know any better and are trying to decide what is what still.

Some of the Monero Fanboys(girls usually on their rag) claims are pretty bold LOL
Not sure why they seem to think Monero is going to take over the world or something..

[nomoreheroes7]

Lol why the fuck does Monero get so much attention on these boards? It's anonymous...so the fuck what? Anon coins are last season, no one gives a fuck. Bitcoin's anonymous enough as it is; cops aren't busting people on Silk Road because their bitcoins weren't anon enough. Do you really think being SUPER anonymous is enough to get the masses flocking to XMR?? Give me a fucking break. What a stupid fucking coin for this board to give so much attention to...damn.

[sandor111]

General rule of thumb for alt coins - the more trolls it attracts, the more potential it has.

This is the golden rule... look what happened to URO.

Btw, OP is an idiot.

[berate48]

Lol why the fuck does Monero get so much attention on these boards? It's anonymous...so the fuck what? Anon coins are last season, no one gives a fuck. Bitcoin's anonymous enough as it is; cops aren't busting people on Silk Road because their bitcoins weren't anon enough. Do you really think being SUPER anonymous is enough to get the masses flocking to XMR?? Give me a fucking break. What a stupid fucking coin for this board to give so much attention to...damn.

I don't use Monero or CryptoNote or anything like that, but that's a pretty ignorant assessment.

Law enforcement and the NSA absolutely have the capability to do blockchain analysis and deanonymize Bitcoin users when they put effort into it. Combined with the capability to tie Bitcoin addresses with exchanges or services like Coinbase, they very well can tie Bitcoins to your real identity if you use an exchange of some kind and don't use a mixer. This is not just theory. Read information published by blockchain analysts.

This does require other factors, like the cooperation of exchanges, or the NSA simply hacking or tapping the exchanges (and considering the Snowden leaks, that's not even remotely far fetched). In general though, if you are using Bitcoins to fund illegal shit, you can get caught purely through analysis of its blockchain.

Alternative protocols like Zerocoin and CryptoNote, assuming their implementation is perfect (and no implementation ever is), will in fact prevent such analyses and give a much stronger guarantee of anonymity.

Obviously if you don't care that the government can theoretically trace funds you send back to you (in the same way you don't care they can trace USD you send through Bank of America or what have you), then there's no reason to care about an anonymous cryptocurrency. But if you do care, then there is real value in using one. Same goes if you don't want people checking your public address to see how much of a currency you've sent or received.

[sandpaper]

Guy above me knows what's up. Very well said

[nomoreheroes7]

I don't use Monero or CryptoNote or anything like that, but that's a pretty ignorant assessment.

Law enforcement and the NSA absolutely have the capability to do blockchain analysis and deanonymize Bitcoin users when they put effort into it. Combined with the capability to tie Bitcoin addresses with exchanges or services like Coinbase, they very well can tie Bitcoins to your real identity if you use an exchange of some kind and don't use a mixer. This is not just theory. Read information published by blockchain analysts.

This does require other factors, like the cooperation of exchanges, or the NSA simply hacking or tapping the exchanges (and considering the Snowden leaks, that's not even remotely far fetched). In general though, if you are using Bitcoins to fund illegal shit, you can get caught purely through analysis of its blockchain.

Alternative protocols like Zerocoin and CryptoNote, assuming their implementation is perfect (and no implementation ever is), will in fact prevent such analyses and give a much stronger guarantee of anonymity.

Obviously if you don't care that the government can theoretically trace funds you send back to you (in the same way you don't care they can trace USD you send through Bank of America or what have you), then there's no reason to care about an anonymous cryptocurrency. But if you do care, then there is real value in using one. Same goes if you don't want people checking your public address to see how much of a currency you've sent or received.

Anon is cool and all and can have it's place, I'll give ya that. The problem is that it is and always will be a niche feature for a niche market. Grandma doesn't give a damn whether her bread purchase is super anonymous or not. And if you can't someday reel in Grandma/Joe Nobody with a better hook than "it's like bitcoin, but more anon!" then you won't have a prayer of seeing bitcoin-esque market caps. But hey, maybe I'm wrong, what do I know...

[berate48]

I don't use Monero or CryptoNote or anything like that, but that's a pretty ignorant assessment.

Law enforcement and the NSA absolutely have the capability to do blockchain analysis and deanonymize Bitcoin users when they put effort into it. Combined with the capability to tie Bitcoin addresses with exchanges or services like Coinbase, they very well can tie Bitcoins to your real identity if you use an exchange of some kind and don't use a mixer. This is not just theory. Read information published by blockchain analysts.

This does require other factors, like the cooperation of exchanges, or the NSA simply hacking or tapping the exchanges (and considering the Snowden leaks, that's not even remotely far fetched). In general though, if you are using Bitcoins to fund illegal shit, you can get caught purely through analysis of its blockchain.

Alternative protocols like Zerocoin and CryptoNote, assuming their implementation is perfect (and no implementation ever is), will in fact prevent such analyses and give a much stronger guarantee of anonymity.

Obviously if you don't care that the government can theoretically trace funds you send back to you (in the same way you don't care they can trace USD you send through Bank of America or what have you), then there's no reason to care about an anonymous cryptocurrency. But if you do care, then there is real value in using one. Same goes if you don't want people checking your public address to see how much of a currency you've sent or received.

Anon is cool and all and can have it's place, I'll give ya that. The problem is that it is and always will be a niche feature for a niche market. Grandma doesn't give a damn whether her bread purchase is super anonymous or not. And if you can't someday reel in Grandma/Joe Nobody with a better hook than "it's like bitcoin, but more anon!" then you won't have a prayer of seeing bitcoin-esque market caps. But hey, maybe I'm wrong, what do I know...

That's a fair argument.

I have absolutely no idea what kind of investment value anonymous cryptocurrencies have or might have in the future. I just know they do serve a real purpose, and will definitely be considered valuable by certain people and groups.