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September 14, 2014, 10:59:01 AM
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He mailed some quark core members to convince them to be a part of a scam of his. So it backfired as they didn't cooperate and publicized his scam attempt, they also banned him permanently from the quark subreddit.


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On 28/05/2014 12:41 pm, "Kopimi cam" <@gmail.com> wrote: I'd like to get us all out of "working hard" and into working smarter.
Now that's not as hard as it sounds and its not as hard work.
This can be done in a number of ways.
What is the aim ?
To make us all 100%s of gains, and to have fun, then to optionally put some of that profit into a Quark reserve just because at this level QRK is much more likely to double than BTC.
So we can individually use as much or little capital as we have and as long as we work as a team it will work just fine.
*So whats the plan ? *
Anything and everything.
I propose we find beaten down "dead" currency and we use coders I know or anyone we know to undertake "revitalization".
we might find xxx coin.
We identify fundamental reasons why it's very low , they have to be fundamental and good I can do this but any one can identify them.
It must be beaten down and worthless % wise. I.e no one wants this junk.
We decide we are going take it on.
So we SLOWLY buy up this junk for say 3 satoshi For example or maybe it's 70 satoshi that all depends on the cap amount I can teach you this easily.
Then we hire our dev and pay him that same junk with the obvious profit that will be realized, which should cost is next to nothing . I'm talking a few LTC in some cases .
Then we " pimp that ride " .
We can :
- change the name - change the logo - even cut the currency reward - add spammy PoS ( people love it ) - cause a "Buzz" * *- get trolled even troll ourselves because that will generate interest.
Point is we don't want to take over the world we just want a few 100% gains .
Then we set a target and get back out realizing profit, which if we all do we should be able to easy enough.
That's just for beginnings , I can fill you in on a hilarious "master" plan that you guys willl definitely laugh at when you hear it.
But also apart from this we can make our own brand new currency , we can make X11 or Scrypt we can make the new Doge if you like all in the name of dumping that shit onto the market to make us money So are we getting the general jist?

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Kopimi cam <kop***ency@gmail.com> wrote: and the result is amazing !!!!!
there is so much volume - (as we trade back and forth with ourselves - ) and its being bid up so much ! (as we decide to bid it up)
no one can sell it because we own it all - now what happens Quark synergy has a massive market cap ! - this is amazing - ! how did it become so popular ?
this causes people to want to buy - and optional - you slowly sell out to them - that would be the last part of the scam -

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September 14, 2014, 11:08:42 AM
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He mailed some quark core members to convince them to be a part of a scam of his. So it backfired as they didn't cooperate and publicized his scam attempt, they also banned him permanently from the quark subreddit.


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On 28/05/2014 12:41 pm, "Kopimi cam" <@gmail.com> wrote: I'd like to get us all out of "working hard" and into working smarter.
Now that's not as hard as it sounds and its not as hard work.
This can be done in a number of ways.
What is the aim ?
To make us all 100%s of gains, and to have fun, then to optionally put some of that profit into a Quark reserve just because at this level QRK is much more likely to double than BTC.
So we can individually use as much or little capital as we have and as long as we work as a team it will work just fine.
*So whats the plan ? *
Anything and everything.
I propose we find beaten down "dead" currency and we use coders I know or anyone we know to undertake "revitalization".
we might find xxx coin.
We identify fundamental reasons why it's very low , they have to be fundamental and good I can do this but any one can identify them.
It must be beaten down and worthless % wise. I.e no one wants this junk.
We decide we are going take it on.
So we SLOWLY buy up this junk for say 3 satoshi For example or maybe it's 70 satoshi that all depends on the cap amount I can teach you this easily.
Then we hire our dev and pay him that same junk with the obvious profit that will be realized, which should cost is next to nothing . I'm talking a few LTC in some cases .
Then we " pimp that ride " .
We can :
- change the name - change the logo - even cut the currency reward - add spammy PoS ( people love it ) - cause a "Buzz" * *- get trolled even troll ourselves because that will generate interest.
Point is we don't want to take over the world we just want a few 100% gains .
Then we set a target and get back out realizing profit, which if we all do we should be able to easy enough.
That's just for beginnings , I can fill you in on a hilarious "master" plan that you guys willl definitely laugh at when you hear it.
But also apart from this we can make our own brand new currency , we can make X11 or Scrypt we can make the new Doge if you like all in the name of dumping that shit onto the market to make us money So are we getting the general jist?

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Kopimi cam <kop***ency@gmail.com> wrote: and the result is amazing !!!!!
there is so much volume - (as we trade back and forth with ourselves - ) and its being bid up so much ! (as we decide to bid it up)
no one can sell it because we own it all - now what happens Quark synergy has a massive market cap ! - this is amazing - ! how did it become so popular ?
this causes people to want to buy - and optional - you slowly sell out to them - that would be the last part of the scam -




Glad this was brought up:


I have all these email the reason they haven't pulled these out now and only in desperation was becasue they know i was talking about exposing IPO scams.

they are editing the Email out of context and I have Vic that will come and be testament to this fact.

but sure knock your self out

so what is the actual story?:


- I was talking and trying to educate "the group"  on how all the current crypto scams work.

- btw i knew that a lot of the trolls from the salt mine can across and were included in the emails.

- I brought up the idea of making a bullshit IPO called "Quark Synergy"

- it would be have been an obvious IPO scam.

- I thought it would be funny to put it at the top of the market Cap as the other scams do.

- AS there would be no one in the market  no one would be scamed

But i instead just decided to write this Blog:



http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/


which has been getting lots of good feedback as you will see.

why did i do that?

namely becasue (no offense) but this forum doesn't matter, and neither really does the Market Cap.

- Twitter @Kolin_Quark
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September 14, 2014, 11:15:53 AM
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in the end little troll, you are going to lose your job, because the good economics of the Quark system make sense and people are seeing its benefit .

you will be unfortunately left living in your mums basement.

but hey its not that bad, don't feel too bad...

 gee but i bet you guys are hurting a little bit about all the Quark you sold so cheap? 

damn.

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September 14, 2014, 12:08:43 PM
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Yeah right blame your scam attempt on "educating the group" you scamming liar. You've no place in the community. bye
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September 14, 2014, 12:21:01 PM
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Yeah right blame your scam attempt on "educating the group" you scamming liar. You've no place in the community. bye

don't say bye you're not leaving yet, you haven't been fired yet.

the little parasite will follow along wherever the real quality Crypto goes. 

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September 14, 2014, 12:45:14 PM
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scammer got caught arrest him. good job
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September 14, 2014, 01:06:36 PM
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For anyone else interested in his scam attempts upon not only the Quark community, but general crypto users: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=778506.msg8776313#msg8776313

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September 14, 2014, 01:10:13 PM
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Damning evidence.
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September 14, 2014, 01:17:03 PM
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that was the big play hey?

{sigh}

what now?

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September 14, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
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WARNING!!! A scammer has been caught

I am not surprised to see a scammer here, I am quite surprised in a good way that there is people who don't apply such offers and, furthermore, shares the information with others
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September 14, 2014, 02:10:57 PM
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Let's not pretend this isn't happening with almost every other new shitcoin that gets branded "the next big thing". Just a bunch of worthless penny stocks pumped by dumpers itching to make another wave of newbies bagholders.

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Let's not pretend this isn't happening with almost every other new shitcoin that gets branded "the next big thing". Just a bunch of worthless penny stocks pumped by dumpers itching to make another wave of newbies bagholders.

exactly which is what we were going to demonstrate but as i said its easier to just write a blog.

real people read it and get educated.

http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/

including for example the CEO of overstock read that, after NXT was posted on the feedback wiki.

i'm 100% on record as only supporting:

PoW
distribution
Multi algo.

our Quark trolls are desperate as i outed the mod on the "qarkcoin" Reddit boasting how "they" could fork Quark and destroy peoples investment.

so if there are people to find of course, its these guys, i'm sure people would be going literally car park to car park seeking these guys out.

but rest assured , China owns a significant portion of  Quark hash rate and units , and I personally feel better about that,  it proves the global nature in which Crypto function as the "west" slides into fake terror police surveillance state.

you have to give it to the "BRICS" they haven't made up a bunch of fake enemies as excuses to invade the rest of the world, they've got that!

people will say well "that's becasue they didn't have the opportunity becasue we were doing it"

and in the past i would have totally agreed, however, in the "information age"  that is patent bullshit, when projected forward.

so now we have this ridiculous situation, where the "west" is bankrupt and all the "good" things we were doing in the past don't apply to the future.

BRICS have no investment in the "fake Terror police surveillance state"  and will probably throw it away as soon as we are not a threat to them.

making which set of nations the progressive and which the backward?

plus without a doubt China is one of the most fee market nations in the world.

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you have to give it to the "BRICS" they haven't made up a bunch of fake enemies as excuses to invade the rest of the world, they've got that!

people will say well "that's becasue they didn't have the opportunity becasue we were doing it"

and in the past i would have totally agreed, however, in the "information age"  that is patent bullshit, when projected forward.

so now we have this ridiculous situation, where the "west" is bankrupt and all the "good" things we were doing in the past don't apply to the future.

BRICS have no investment in the "fake Terror police surveillance state"  and will probably throw it away as soon as we are not a threat to them.

making which set of nations the progressive and which the backward?

plus without a doubt China is one of the most fee market nations in the world.

Just reading these nonsense gives you headache, have some shame you scamming prick.
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September 15, 2014, 09:27:59 AM
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Let's not pretend this isn't happening with almost every other new shitcoin that gets branded "the next big thing". Just a bunch of worthless penny stocks pumped by dumpers itching to make another wave of newbies bagholders.

"Doge Scheme" coins  Roll Eyes

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Let's not pretend this isn't happening with almost every other new shitcoin that gets branded "the next big thing". Just a bunch of worthless penny stocks pumped by dumpers itching to make another wave of newbies bagholders.

"Doge Scheme" coins  Roll Eyes


On one hand, I can agree with you that that's a hypocrisy  to pretend every time there are a brand new coin that it's an innovative coin but, IMO, there can be some exceptions because if every new coin is a scam than why many people invest in it??
I think here is the same situation as it was in the wild west during the gold rush when people were looking for gold mines - there are a lot of coins but only a few of them would worth something and,maybe, could even fight with BTC
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Let's not pretend this isn't happening with almost every other new shitcoin that gets branded "the next big thing". Just a bunch of worthless penny stocks pumped by dumpers itching to make another wave of newbies bagholders.

"Doge Scheme" coins  Roll Eyes


On one hand, I can agree with you that that's a hypocrisy  to pretend every time there are a brand new coin that it's an innovative coin but, IMO, there can be some exceptions because if every new coin is a scam than why many people invest in it??
I think here is the same situation as it was in the wild west during the gold rush when people were looking for gold mines - there are a lot of coins but only a few of them would worth something and,maybe, could even fight with BTC

Half of it is caused by people bigging up the coin, knowing full well it's "just another coin", and the other half are comprised of those who genuinely buy into the premise. So one side dumps onto the bag holders. You see it time and time again. This is why long-dead coins end up with a strong core following, even after the price has hit rock-bottom. Only the faithful remain. The "traders" have already moved on to the next coin. Cycle continues.

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September 15, 2014, 11:11:36 AM
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Why doesn't the admin bann this scammer? This is a clear evidence of his plans; there should be no place for such guys in here so i would say kick&bann the guy since he is a hero member too and can take advantage of that.
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Why doesn't the admin bann this scammer? This is a clear evidence of his plans; there should be no place for such guys in here so i would say kick&bann the guy since he is a hero member too and can take advantage of that.

If we banned every member on Bitcointalk who was planning or plotting some get-rich-quick scheme, the place would be pretty empty. We have a trust system for a reason. Planning to do something and actually doing it are two different things.

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I've requested a bann to the admin and other should do the same, a scammer with a hero member account is unacceptable.
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Why doesn't the admin bann this scammer? This is a clear evidence of his plans; there should be no place for such guys in here so i would say kick&bann the guy since he is a hero member too and can take advantage of that.

If we banned every member on Bitcointalk who was planning or plotting some get-rich-quick scheme, the place would be pretty empty. We have a trust system for a reason. Planning to do something and actually doing it are two different things.

His hero member account should be take off at least
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Why doesn't the admin bann this scammer? This is a clear evidence of his plans; there should be no place for such guys in here so i would say kick&bann the guy since he is a hero member too and can take advantage of that.

If we banned every member on Bitcointalk who was planning or plotting some get-rich-quick scheme, the place would be pretty empty. We have a trust system for a reason. Planning to do something and actually doing it are two different things.

His hero member account should be take off at least

+1 since with a hero account it's easier to trick people into scams. digitalindustry has caused a lot of trouble not just trying to scam, a bann would suite best so that he would have to post with his newbie account.
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Why doesn't the admin bann this scammer? This is a clear evidence of his plans; there should be no place for such guys in here so i would say kick&bann the guy since he is a hero member too and can take advantage of that.

unfortunately you are misunderstood :

I was planning on exposing a humorous ponzi scheme - but instead i just wrote a blog about it, the email is taken out of context of course.

http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/

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Why doesn't the admin bann this scammer? This is a clear evidence of his plans; there should be no place for such guys in here so i would say kick&bann the guy since he is a hero member too and can take advantage of that.

unfortunately you are misunderstood :

I was planning on exposing a humorous ponzi scheme - but instead i just wrote a blog about it, the email is taken out of context of course.

http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/

you can choose to believe whatever it is that makes you a happy person.

Ok..So you're saying that you proposed a scamming event to take place to the Quark Mods/Devs on Reddit, but it was all for fun, to trick people into the scam, so they would realize it was a scam and not ever fall for a scam again?

With all honesty, that has to be the Stupidest excuse I have ever seen on Bitcointalk. You obviously attempted to do a real scam, but got called out and now you're making up Bullshit excuses. Nice job.
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I must admit that after this thread the credibility of things he is willing to tell me are zero. But I doubt digitalindustry would be successful in his ponzi scheme as there is nothing new to the crypto currency world and if he tried he would fail.

I can tell a list of users here on the forum who has caused a lot of trouble from my point of view. digitalindustry is one of them, and the second one would be darkota  - I think I didn't surprise anyone with such statement. He is one of that users who write in a bold and use capital letters to attract attention and prove his words, that's better to use evidence to prove your point of view than write in a bold

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Why doesn't the admin bann this scammer? This is a clear evidence of his plans; there should be no place for such guys in here so i would say kick&bann the guy since he is a hero member too and can take advantage of that.

If we banned every member on Bitcointalk who was planning or plotting some get-rich-quick scheme, the place would be pretty empty. We have a trust system for a reason. Planning to do something and actually doing it are two different things.

His hero member account should be take off at least

+1 since with a hero account it's easier to trick people into scams. digitalindustry has caused a lot of trouble not just trying to scam, a bann would suite best so that he would have to post with his newbie account.

This is what the reputation system is for. Sure, you could request the ban, but then I'm sure you'd need concrete proof that a scam has or was going to take place.

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Why doesn't the admin bann this scammer? This is a clear evidence of his plans; there should be no place for such guys in here so i would say kick&bann the guy since he is a hero member too and can take advantage of that.

unfortunately you are misunderstood :

I was planning on exposing a humorous ponzi scheme - but instead i just wrote a blog about it, the email is taken out of context of course.

http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/

you can choose to believe whatever it is that makes you a happy person.

Ok..So you're saying that you proposed a scamming event to take place to the Quark Mods/Devs on Reddit, but it was all for fun, to trick people into the scam, so they would realize it was a scam and not ever fall for a scam again?

With all honesty, that has to be the Stupidest excuse I have ever seen on Bitcointalk. You obviously attempted to do a real scam, but got called out and now you're making up Bullshit excuses. Nice job.

^ +1 he is just lying and his scam e-mail isn't even in his blog

and

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2g023x/kolin_evans_has_finally_been_banned_from/
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Why doesn't the admin bann this scammer? This is a clear evidence of his plans; there should be no place for such guys in here so i would say kick&bann the guy since he is a hero member too and can take advantage of that.

unfortunately you are misunderstood :

I was planning on exposing a humorous ponzi scheme - but instead i just wrote a blog about it, the email is taken out of context of course.

http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/

you can choose to believe whatever it is that makes you a happy person.

Ok..So you're saying that you proposed a scamming event to take place to the Quark Mods/Devs on Reddit, but it was all for fun, to trick people into the scam, so they would realize it was a scam and not ever fall for a scam again?

With all honesty, that has to be the Stupidest excuse I have ever seen on Bitcointalk. You obviously attempted to do a real scam, but got called out and now you're making up Bullshit excuses. Nice job.

^ +1 he is just lying and his scam e-mail isn't even in his blog

and

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2g023x/kolin_evans_has_finally_been_banned_from/

Seems like the community has had it with him too and just saw his trust feedback, these morons shouldn't be allowed to have an account
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is this true kolin  Huh

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Let's not pretend this isn't happening with almost every other new shitcoin that gets branded "the next big thing". Just a bunch of worthless penny stocks pumped by dumpers itching to make another wave of newbies bagholders.

"Doge Scheme" coins  Roll Eyes


On one hand, I can agree with you that that's a hypocrisy  to pretend every time there are a brand new coin that it's an innovative coin but, IMO, there can be some exceptions because if every new coin is a scam than why many people invest in it??
I think here is the same situation as it was in the wild west during the gold rush when people were looking for gold mines - there are a lot of coins but only a few of them would worth something and,maybe, could even fight with BTC

Half of it is caused by people bigging up the coin, knowing full well it's "just another coin", and the other half are comprised of those who genuinely buy into the premise. So one side dumps onto the bag holders. You see it time and time again. This is why long-dead coins end up with a strong core following, even after the price has hit rock-bottom. Only the faithful remain. The "traders" have already moved on to the next coin. Cycle continues.

Well, I still believe that there are some coins out of the circle and they are going to become more than BTC's surrogate , and my aim is try to guess what is that coin and invest in it in time.   
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Just a short add to the story:

The plan that Kolin outlined was indeed attempted to be carried out. In June there was a chat between some members of the core group - James, Adam, Julie, Vic and Max, Alphanuma probably someone else, this are the names that I remember. (Btw. in this chat Kolin claimed to own 1,000,000 QRK when he talked to James - while I don´t know if that is true, he certainly lied about his holdings, since he recently stated that he only owns 400,000 QRK. It could be more, it could be less, it doesn´t matter. He lies - that´s what matters).

The chat was meant to discuss merge mining. In the end of the meeting, people agreed on the following (summarized by Kolin):

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1. Merge mining
2. it can be many currencies - as per Max an shake said
3. it could be one we make also

The reasons for this were presented to core members by Julie (the following parts are quoted from a mail on this issue by Julie):

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a) to increase Quarks hashrate, increasing security of the network against a 51% attack. (...)
b) To potentially increase the value of Quark, as people will be fueled to know that something is being done to secure the network, and this should incentivize people to re-connect and contribute to the Quark Community (...)
c) To provide added funds to the Quark Foundation for infrastructure projects for Quark as well as provide continued developer engagement. (...)

(...)

[The proposed ideas include a] new coin created by Max Guevera, with a Quark algorithm and a longer term distribution. This coin will have some additional feature(s) that will hold value and interest new people to mine it and trade back and forth with Quark (and engage/bring back older investors as well)."

At this point a merge mining coin sounded like a good solution to some prevailing problems and people were all in all positive. I was more or less agnostic in the mid of June because I had to deal with more important personal issues and didn´t even follow all email threads that were hammering in at that time. In the meantime Vic, Adam and Kolin were planning to launch a coin. Vic later argued that he wanted to push things forward, so things wouldn´t get cought in buerocracy. He and Kolin contacted me to design a logo for the coin. Kolin contacted me the 10th of June, the comment included a note that all Quark members would be filled in eventually:

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i'd like you to design the eventual logo - and if i have the ability i will pay you in the currency - i'd like to phase all the Quark members into this eventually.

I received a mail from Vic later:

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Hey Peter - our coin is just about ready to launch, however we need a cool logo for it. The coin is debuting as "B9" - essentially 9 hash bitcoin. We need a 256x256 logo for it - is there any way do you think that you could whip something up? Doesn't have to be amazing or anything, just useable - it will be rebranded when officially integrated into Quark.

I thought that this was public record, so when I finished the logo I pushed it to Vic and Julie who only then found out that the launch was plotted silently. In fact the coin launch was botched. Few days later I had time to reread a discussion between Vic, Adam and Kolin. It turned out that they already launched a coin, however there was a misunderstanding: Vic announced publicly the involvement of Max and Adam (probably because he saw no reason to stay silent about that). The thread was named "B9 - The New Fairer-er Quark Preannounce -Release June13, 2014, 12:00am EST". Vic linked the thread on June 12 at 7:21 PM. From 9:48 AM on Kolin send the following mails:

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HOLY SHIT VIC - CANCEL this project -

one minute later

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Sorry guys i'm out - you wrote MAX and SHAKE in there man - shit - i should have done this ha ha omg -

again two minutes later

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sorry guys for the work that will have to be done - but we have to make another one - otherwise i can't support this - - it will have to be B2 the second banana lol - i will make the ANN when i'm out of noobie prison

again one minute later

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too late - it will have been cached - it can come right back at me - i'm out on this one - sorry guys -

then at 1:52 AM:

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unless we are saying we created it for this purpose - i can't do it. otherwise i look like a liar -

After this reactions Vic deleted the thread at about 8:00 PM and Max stated: "Phew. Ok cool. Don't think anyone noticed."

The whole thing was reviewed by other core members. The approach was criticized heavily, particularly by Julie because it looked like a scam (even though it was told to be well intended). Why was there a silent plan: Kolin and Vic feared that if an official merge mining coin for Quark would be announced people would "rape mine" it and dump it as soon as possible. Kolin told Vic it would be better to either find a Quark algo coin where he and other involved individuals would control a large share of the coins (I remember they talked about BitQuark and rejected the idea because the developer who was interested had only comparatively small share) or create a new coin, announce it publicly so it would look like a legit start but create it in a way so that it would appear worthless and noone would mine it (you can see that already in Vics comment, that the Logo doesn´t  have to be something special. You can also see it in the way Mimiccoin was later carried out). In the latter case they would have only small competition in the early mining phase. After about 6 weeks they would announce that this coins would be merge mined with Quark. They expected that then many people would mine the coin. However, as a large initial share of several week of mining would be in control of them, they would be able to control the exchange rate for a while. It´s therefore funny that Kolin later stated that it would be ridiculous to attempt to control the price because 1st halving would only happen after 4 years. While this is true, it is also true that 4-6 week of mining this coin would have given all those who knew about the plan an unequal advantage and allow them to manipulate the price for at least some time. This was part of the plan.

It would be to hard to summarize all discussions that happened afterwards. In the end the merge mining idea wasn´t rejected but planned to be discussed with the community. In fact at the same time there was a discussion on bitcointalk about this very issue without anyone from the core group to have sparked this. However, even though there were serious criticism on a(nother) silent launch, Vic and Kolin launched the same coin branded as Mimiccoin and staged the whole thing as if there was a developer who talks like Hello Kitty (or rather like Kolin) & who agrees on merge mining with Quark.

I hope this outlines the shadyness of Kolin. I still believe in the integrity of Vic, even though I have no understanding of how he proceeded and I explained this in long mails to him. Vic had his own issues with Kolin and thought he was dumb - but he believed him to be an important link to Max. We found out later that Max knows very well that Kolin is a weirdo who is rather bugging Quark than helping, he simply doesn´t care (check the log of the last chat with Max, he states it explicitely). So I guess Vic fell as well for the image that Kolin had established over month and showed him as a somewhat important personality in the community. Nothing could be more far from truth.

If you have further questions on this issue, go ahead. I left the community and won´t come back but I still hope that it will succeed in a way given the hundreds of hours I invested in Quark.
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I have been away for a while from all the discussions on this forum, but QuarkFX has done a good job above summarizing what he knows- I will only add a few things--The discovery of Kolins article on "How Fraudsters operate" has been my inspiration for this post...
 
Kolin's many suggestions/comments prior to coming to the merge-mine discussion ALWAYS indicated that HIS MOTIVES lay in making money first for himself(and the insiders he would need to pull off his scams) at anyones expense, then supporting Quark secondarily( mainly for pump purposes). I say this because the quoted text in the OP included Kolin's initial suggestions on how to find and pump a dead coin (Mooncoin, CAPs and galaxycoin are the ones he suggested as good candidates) by getting a temporary dev (who would then of course abandon the coin once profits were made), and use the profits to buy/ pump Quark(then rinse & repeat). Kolin approached the members of the QuarkFoundation with the proposal to "work smarter, not harder" in order to make some money--and then the above discussions began.  

The other Quote in the OP toward the bottom(May 31, "the result is amazing" refers to the other proposal by Kolin to release a Quark family IPO where insiders(the Foundation) would issue the Quark family coins "Quark Synergy" in exchange for Quark payment which would go into addresses owned by us but anonymously shuffled by his wallet shuffling contact.

Unfortunately in the end Victor decided that it was more worthwhile to go with Kolin for a secretly launched  coin(for later rebranding/merge mining with Quark)--which of course meant going behind everyone's back AND despite any objections  about Kolin OR the appearance of a secretly launched coin looking like a scam (Kolin specifically stated that it was important to get a jumpstart on mining for a "mining monopoly" to help control price/dumping...)

More quotes from Digital Industry and how he operates here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241445.msg9586936#msg9586936

There is much more than this, but you get the point- His involvement in pumping and dumping coins at anyones expense is clear...

Quote from: DigitalIndustry
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"I.e we buy it as worthless junk and sell it as more valuable worthless junk.

And we use every trick in the book and trust me being in this industry I know them all"

In any event, I am no longer involved in or trusting Quark or any of its projects, for the reasons above AND also having the recent confirmation that Quark has been a partnership between Max and Kolin from the beginning(having unexpected luck/success with the Bill Still bribe), AND also the Foundation (...manipulated/created by Kolin as well).

For all the honest people who genuinely believed in and defended Quark against allegations, invested countless hours and money into Quark- I know that some of this is very disappointing- As a person who falls into that category, including helping get the awesome mobile wallet created as well as supporting other projects with Quarkfx, silvermetal, quarkcheck, I was among the disappointed.

By the way, we were closer than anyone knew to getting at least one ATM with Quark support, so Digitalindustry pretty much shot himself in the foot there...



**Please note, Kolin has also written the following article, which is the equivalent of an arsonist writing about fire investigation (while claiming to be Fire Chief): http://www.coinspeaker.com/2014/11/06/cryptocurrency-fraud-part-1-identifying-ways-in-which-fraudsters-operate/
Please note also "Christian MacCauley" (https://twitter.com/CMacauley82) and other sockpuppets are there in full force, lol..

Additionally, he is involved currently in pumping Mooncoin, CAPs and has had a hand in many, many others(Digitalcoin, kopimicoin, HBN, Nybble, Coffeecoin/spoetacoin/perfectcoin(?)). This is his line of work, scamming people (pumping and dumping) for profit.

Digital Industry's previous alias, philipkdick: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=121013;sa=showPosts;start=80

Philipkdick/DigitalIndustry's previous forum (tipping CAPS to sockpuppets for posting): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246886.msg2619233#msg2619233

http://www.digitalcurrencytalk.com/index.php/topic,11456.0.html?PHPSESSID=8558aokmu6klr0lkcpu6dv14t0

(cryptocurrency broker, phillipkdick and digitalindustry are all the same person, as are many many many others)

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Interesting, I didn´t know about the forum but it´s obviously Kolin based on the crappy images.

The funny thing here is, that different to kopimi.com, another of his pages, this page is not anonymised, so it is possible to look up the owner and credentials:

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
   Domain Name: DIGITALCURRENCYTALK.COM
      Created on: 30-May-13
      Expires on: 30-May-14
      Last Updated on: 30-May-13

   Registrant:
   Jeremy Wentz
   3305 Eastern Blvd
   York, Pennsylvania 17402
   United States

   Administrative Contact:
      Wentz, Jeremy  cyberkiller6@comcast.net
      3305 Eastern Blvd
      York, Pennsylvania 17402
      United States
      7175782644

   Technical Contact:
      Wentz, Jeremy  cyberkiller6@comcast.net
      3305 Eastern Blvd
      York, Pennsylvania 17402
      United States
      7175782644

   Domain servers in listed order:
      NS1.DREAMHOST.COM
      NS2.DREAMHOST.COM
      NS3.DREAMHOST.COM

Jeremy Wentz has other pages registered there, however shows no relation to crypto. Look it up yourself.
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To keep you updated on shedding light into the scammy behaviour of "Kolin Evans" I sent this email to Bill Still. Bill Still received my mail as he immediately answered, asking for my origin. I keep you updated.

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Dear Bill

when I went into cryptocurrencies the end of 2013 I read some articles on Quark and also saw several videos of yours where you talked to an individual that referred to himself as "Kolin Evans". From what you tell in your videos, he convinced you with some arguments about the cryptography of the currency and you eventually "bought in".

Over more than half a year I have been associated member of the Quark Foundation and created several artworks and videos for them. I eventually left due to misbehaviour of some other core members, including the head developer and the named individual (who btw. wasn´t even part of the Quark Foundation).

Now after more than a year, I am looking for answers to some questions. First off, I would like to know if you are still supporting and holding Quark since I noticed you are no longer posting a Quark address for donations and I know that you have been selling at least substantial parts of your Quarks even though you confirmed to be a long term holder. I know there were good reasons to do so, but still I would like to know your standpoint. Also I would like to go on record whether you bought all your Quark or were provided with free Quark and by whom. In your recent AMA you didn´t answer this question and we have plenty of indicators that Quarks were given to you for free.

In your first video on Quark with the person who calls himself "Kolin Evans" you refer to him as part of the development team, which he has never been part of. He commited to be a trader without any technical knowledge. Most people in Quark believed that "Kolin" had a strong relation to "Max Guevara" the main developer of Quark. Max himself rejected this in a public chat. I would like to point you out to more scammy behaviour of this individual and ask you to shed more light on this issue since you were in close contact with him.

One of your last videos on Quark I remember you refer to it as "solid as the rock of Gibraltar". It wasn´t. In fact Quark ahad a much stronger decrease in value than Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies over the last year. Mining power destabilized so the Foundation eventually looked for ways to provide incentives. "Kolin" was one of the forces who actively tried to scam money out of the whole endeavor. There is a lot of email proof for that. You won´t find all proof there, but https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781954 is a good summary of what he plotted.

Doing some backchecks on "Kolin Evans" we found that he is a highly instable person who acts as if he was an economic expert, however he is mostly delusional in his analyses of which he is religiously convinced. One of his main methods is buying cheap crypto and then cheer them hard to make people buy them. He provably created a large ammount of sock puppets to bump and cheer his own threads. Now that he is no longer very active in Quark related threads because most of them are dead, he switched over to other coins like Mooncoin and Caps where he sings the same gospel.

I and many others wonder in which way you have been involved in this misbehaviour. You explicitely stated that you are not giving any investment advises but your "information" on Quark turned out to be based solely on the informations giving by the referred individual. If you were not involved in a scam, than I would be very grateful if you could describe how the contact with the individual was initiated and how you have been cheated into cheering for Quark.

I´d be grateful to hear your comments on this issue.

All the best,
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Can you give us the gist of Bill's reply? 
I've always found Bill to be a very well meaning and intentioned guy and your letter comes across as a bit angry and accusatory tonwards him.
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Interesting, I didn´t know about the forum but it´s obviously Kolin based on the crappy images.

The funny thing here is, that different to kopimi.com, another of his pages, this page is not anonymised, so it is possible to look up the owner and credentials:

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
   Domain Name: DIGITALCURRENCYTALK.COM
      Created on: 30-May-13
      Expires on: 30-May-14
      Last Updated on: 30-May-13

   Registrant:
   Jeremy Wentz
   3305 Eastern Blvd
   York, Pennsylvania 17402
   United States

   Administrative Contact:
      Wentz, Jeremy  cyberkiller6@comcast.net
      3305 Eastern Blvd
      York, Pennsylvania 17402
      United States
      7175782644

   Technical Contact:
      Wentz, Jeremy  cyberkiller6@comcast.net
      3305 Eastern Blvd
      York, Pennsylvania 17402
      United States
      7175782644

   Domain servers in listed order:
      NS1.DREAMHOST.COM
      NS2.DREAMHOST.COM
      NS3.DREAMHOST.COM

Jeremy Wentz has other pages registered there, however shows no relation to crypto. Look it up yourself.

Giving poor old York, PA a bad reputation. Shame on you Jeremy Wentz
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