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The federal government is developing a body mass index (BMI) detector intended to be available to every American “anywhere and anytime,” according to a grant awarded by the National Science Foundation (NSF). The detector is expected to rely on the analysis of facial and body imagery.

The project has been awarded $200,113 thus far to create the system under the notion that too many obese individuals are unaware of their BMI.

“Body mass index (BMI) is a measure of the ratio between an individual’s weight and height, which is an important parameter to characterize human bodies into four categories, i.e., underweight, normal, overweight, and obese,” the grant states. “A high BMI value is associated with a higher risk for conditions such as type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, and certain cancers.”

“The study of this project leads to development of an intelligent and computational system that can be used by everybody at anywhere and anytime,” the grant adds. “The developed system enables people to [be] aware their BMI and understand the strongly correlated high risks of various diseases to combat overweight and obesity.”

“The developed technology can also improve personal health care and quality of life, and public health surveillance,” it added.

Guodong Guo, an assistant professor at the Department of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering at West Virginia University, is leading the project. Guo previously created a system that predicted BMIs from mug shots.

Guo said that his facial recognition BMI predictor could be used for online dating, so an individual can know the “state of health of people you might date.”

The accuracy of BMI has been the subject of long debate, with some researchers arguing that BMI has little value because it cannot distinguish between fat and muscle. BMI screenings in schools have also been criticized as invasive. Mandatory screenings in Arkansas, California, Massachusetts, and Illinois have resulted in children being sent home with “fat letters.”

The NSF project will develop a “low-cost, portable, reliable, and convenient BMI assessment system” off of Guo’s prior research that could use both two and three- dimensional images.

“The key research question is what kinds of features or patterns can be extracted from human face and body images to characterize the visual appearance related to BMI measure,” the grant said. “In facial images, the study focuses on 2D facial feature representation and its robustness in order to build the mapping relation from face to BMI. In body images, the focuses are on 3D body shape analysis to connect to BMI measure.”

“This research provides a theoretic foundation for developing a visual analysis system that can be deployed to provide convenient estimate of the BMI and related health conditions anywhere and anytime,” the grant added.

The project, which only recently began on Sept. 1, received a grant for $200,113. Funding is estimated to continue until 2016.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-developing-technology-to-detect-obesity-from-your-picture/


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Public health surveillance?
Welcome to 1984

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September 14, 2014, 08:53:32 PM
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Public health surveillance?
Welcome to 1984
The government is paying for your healthcare now after all! By doing so you give them a direct line to all of your most personal information, including your bank accounts as  well as health data. Too bad they have to take your money first to have an excuse and revenue to do this.
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Public health surveillance?
Welcome to 1984
The government is paying for your healthcare now after all! By doing so you give them a direct line to all of your most personal information, including your bank accounts as  well as health data. Too bad they have to take your money first to have an excuse and revenue to do this.

That only happens in developed countries

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September 15, 2014, 12:26:02 AM
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I'm pretty sure I can detect obesity from your picture. Why is this such an amazing feat?

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September 15, 2014, 02:02:31 AM
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I don't get it; we can already calculate BMI, so anyone who wants to know, can know.  It seems like they're trying to create a database, and didn't want to ask people to submit a picture of themselves directly.

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I don't get it; we can already calculate BMI, so anyone who wants to know, can know.  It seems like they're trying to create a database, and didn't want to ask people to submit a picture of themselves directly.
The government already has a database of pictures of people (drivers licenses, passport photos). A person's weight is self reported and is likely not accurate.
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September 15, 2014, 03:32:33 PM
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I don't get it; we can already calculate BMI, so anyone who wants to know, can know.  It seems like they're trying to create a database, and didn't want to ask people to submit a picture of themselves directly.

The more data they get the better. Fingerprints are not enough. Photo ID is not enough. DNA is not enough.

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I'm pretty sure I can detect obesity from your picture. Why is this such an amazing feat?

It's an amazing feat because unlike you, the government has ways to make money off it

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September 15, 2014, 10:10:06 PM
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I don't get it; we can already calculate BMI, so anyone who wants to know, can know.  It seems like they're trying to create a database, and didn't want to ask people to submit a picture of themselves directly.
Exactly. The want to collect more without your permission. Databases of personal information are worth millions.
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I don't get it; we can already calculate BMI, so anyone who wants to know, can know.  It seems like they're trying to create a database, and didn't want to ask people to submit a picture of themselves directly.
Exactly. The want to collect more without your permission. Databases of personal information are worth millions.

Reminds me of my first domain purchase. The government wanted my personal info stored on their servers in exchange for a domain. The WHOIS police apparently forces you to put up your personal information where anybody can view it, then charges you for anonymizing it.

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September 16, 2014, 01:30:39 AM
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I'm pretty sure I can detect obesity from your picture. Why is this such an amazing feat?

It's an amazing feat because unlike you, the government has ways to make money off it

If I can detect obesity from a picture, I'm pretty sure anyone in the govt can also. So again, why is this such a feat?

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September 16, 2014, 02:00:45 AM
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If I can detect obesity from a picture, I'm pretty sure anyone in the govt can also. So again, why is this such a feat?

Presumably because it won't be a person looking at a picture, but an algorithm that can be part of an app on your smartphone or whatever. Developing an algorithm that can accurately determine someone's BMI to within say +/- 5 or 10 % by only analyzing a photograph of their face sounds non-trivial.
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September 16, 2014, 02:03:49 AM
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If I can detect obesity from a picture, I'm pretty sure anyone in the govt can also. So again, why is this such a feat?

Presumably because it won't be a person looking at a picture, but an algorithm that can be part of an app on your smartphone or whatever. Developing an algorithm that can accurately determine someone's BMI to within say +/- 5 or 10 % by only analyzing a photograph of their face sounds non-trivial.

Ah - I missed that. So it's like machine facial recognition?

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September 16, 2014, 02:09:41 AM
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If I can detect obesity from a picture, I'm pretty sure anyone in the govt can also. So again, why is this such a feat?

Presumably because it won't be a person looking at a picture, but an algorithm that can be part of an app on your smartphone or whatever. Developing an algorithm that can accurately determine someone's BMI to within say +/- 5 or 10 % by only analyzing a photograph of their face sounds non-trivial.

Ah - I missed that. So it's like machine facial recognition?

I assume so. Probably try to correlate facial features to BMI in some way.

That being said, I'm unsure of the usefulness of technology... as anyone curious enough to bother downloading an app to check their weight or BMI can just as easily go stand on a scale. I suppose it could be useful for online dating as mentioned in the OP... if it can accurately tell you that those people that post photos only of their face really are obese.
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September 16, 2014, 02:53:54 AM
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One day you will recieve a letter along the lines of

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We noticed from our analytic scans that you are over our prescribed weight limit for your coverage since we the government care about your health and well being we will give you funds to go exercise, if you do not comply or wish to do so then we will remove you from health coverage or you will be asked to pay a higher premium based on your BMI index risk of launching a claim.

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September 16, 2014, 04:21:13 AM
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I don't like the idea of this, I think there are far better ways  to protect the publics health.  If the plan is to only use this as a tool to make an individual aware of their own personal health then I like it.  If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.
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If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.

Maybe those people could get off their asses and get some exercise. I'm tired of society pretending obese people are not obese. Ever try being sandwiched between two obese people on a plane? Or paying the same for a ticket as someone 4 times your weight?

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September 16, 2014, 06:03:43 AM
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If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.

Maybe those people could get off their asses and get some exercise. I'm tired of society pretending obese people are not obese. Ever try being sandwiched between two obese people on a plane? Or paying the same for a ticket as someone 4 times your weight?



So your answer is for the governments to step in and control everyone's diets and then punish anybody who doesn't meet their criteria for a healthy person?  Where do you think it will end once we head down that road and is your freedom really worth the extra room on a plane ride?  Don't you think it is a little unfair to force this type of thing on people for such a silly reason?
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