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September 15, 2014, 06:29:26 PM |
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hand over all data or we will rob you of all your money, that's the kind of fascist state America has become.
Land of the slaves Home of the socialist. the founding fathers are rolling in their graves.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson it is the duty of every American to bring these NSA criminals to justice, Edward Snowden did his duty will you?
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September 15, 2014, 06:49:57 PM |
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hand over all data or we will rob you of all your money, that's the kind of fascist state America has become.
Land of the slaves Home of the socialist. the founding fathers are rolling in their graves.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson it is the duty of every American to bring these NSA criminals to justice, Edward Snowden did his duty will you?
2001 we lost the ability to ever grow that tree again. You gave up your freedom for the idea of saftey.. you gave up your right to be free. You deserve to be a slave for giving up freedom for saftey. We have sown our destiny.. so be it now. It is better to just accept we are slaves then attempt to show others the truth and change thigns.. it just won't happen.
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wasserman99
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September 17, 2014, 02:08:10 AM |
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hand over all data or we will rob you of all your money, that's the kind of fascist state America has become.
Land of the slaves Home of the socialist. the founding fathers are rolling in their graves.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson it is the duty of every American to bring these NSA criminals to justice, Edward Snowden did his duty will you?
2001 we lost the ability to ever grow that tree again. You gave up your freedom for the idea of saftey.. you gave up your right to be free. You deserve to be a slave for giving up freedom for saftey. We have sown our destiny.. so be it now. It is better to just accept we are slaves then attempt to show others the truth and change thigns.. it just won't happen. I don't know if it was so much given up as opposed to taken away from us. Remember that we were attacked on 9/11 and the anti-terror laws were effectively a reaction to these attacks. I think the intelligence was too lax prior to 9/11, and the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction since then. I think it will eventually go back to somewhat of a more reasonable level
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September 17, 2014, 02:10:35 AM |
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I think it will eventually go back to somewhat of a more reasonable level
How can it? Once you give these agencies power, they never give it back. If certain programs are exposed and found unpopular, they just get buried deeper in secrecy but keep on going.
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Spendulus
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September 17, 2014, 02:53:37 AM |
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What is bothersome about this event is that Yahoo maintained the secrecy and thus became culpable in the deceit of their user base. Any number of times, information has somehow managed to "get leaked." They didn't do that, therefore they stand with the bad guys. REVISION: Maybe not, because at that time, NSA was compartmentalizing it's attacks. Yahoo may not have known of the other, simultaneous attacks against other companies. But today, Post-Snowden, we can clearly point at who/what companies are in league with the bad guys.
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September 17, 2014, 03:56:14 AM |
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Better idea, boycott the american government by taking a low wage job and receiving welfare benefits thus draining national capital reserves, starve off the beast.
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koshgel
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September 17, 2014, 03:59:27 AM |
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Better idea, boycott the american government by taking a low wage job and receiving welfare benefits thus draining national capital reserves, starve off the beast.
Living on the poverty line. That'll show em.
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Eisenhower34
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September 17, 2014, 04:15:39 AM |
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I think it will eventually go back to somewhat of a more reasonable level
How can it? Once you give these agencies power, they never give it back. If certain programs are exposed and found unpopular, they just get buried deeper in secrecy but keep on going. When these programs are exposes and the public does not like them the public can and will elect representatives (politicians) who will work to get the law changed so that these agencies no longer have the power to carry out these kinds of programs.
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September 17, 2014, 04:32:45 AM |
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Better idea, boycott the american government by taking a low wage job and receiving welfare benefits thus draining national capital reserves, starve off the beast.
Living on the poverty line. That'll show em. Screwing oneself to take down the government is not a good method.
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koshgel
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September 17, 2014, 04:35:07 AM |
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Better idea, boycott the american government by taking a low wage job and receiving welfare benefits thus draining national capital reserves, starve off the beast.
Living on the poverty line. That'll show em. Screwing oneself to take down the government is not a good method. Maybe I should have added a /s to the end of my statement. Thought my sarcasm was obvious.
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September 17, 2014, 05:06:47 AM |
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250k a day is quite a lot of money to spend to spy on people. I wonder if anyone question the effectiveness of these programs.
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September 20, 2014, 06:06:51 AM |
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Better idea, boycott the american government by taking a low wage job and receiving welfare benefits thus draining national capital reserves, starve off the beast.
The problem with this idea is that in order to get these welfare benefits to continue you would need to vote for the same liberals that want these kinds of government programs to continue. So if you want to get these kinds of benefits you will also need to have these kinds of government intrusions.
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September 20, 2014, 06:57:27 AM |
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it is a psychological staple of controlling people.
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