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September 16, 2014, 09:43:17 AM
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I am making a list of every betting site that closed after stealing the coins of all of its users.

Post here every site that you know of (mtgox also counts in my book).

Also post the websites you suspect as next in line to bail with users funds, state that it is only a suspicion and not a site that ran away with coins.

Lets make BTC bets a safer place for us all.


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Evil list:

Empty for now (help us protect ourselves against scams - fill the list!)


Inconclusive:

1. shibaroll:
This site is down/frozen and once you deposit you'll never be able to withdraw it again. They're just ready to take your doge Wink.

No opposition yet

2. dicebitco.in:
Here is the answer to all scam accuisations :  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789339.0
against-
I got re-funded in full by dicebitco.in.
They are paying for who got cheated (skipping nonce) by DiceBitCo.in
They explain everything clearly  Smiley
(Mind that two very similar url's lead to different places - dicebit.co.in leads to Prime Dice (well established) whereas dicebitco.in is under discussion here)

3. anonnibet:
And what about Anonibet? I heard them to be accused of being scam site too.
yet no proof has been shown or linked on this thread

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September 16, 2014, 09:49:15 AM
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I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.



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September 16, 2014, 11:57:12 AM
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Wow this sux. This gambling site need to be ddos Smiley

Hehehe when i enter this site it says PROFIT: -296.17561886 Cheesy

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September 16, 2014, 02:39:47 PM
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Great Awesome idea!!! I was really shocked with DiceBitco.in as they have purchased unique review on our website around 2 weeks ago. I`ve tried to contact their manager in skype to get any comments about that scam article about dicebitcoin, but still have not received anything yet.

I will check your post as often as possible. Good luck!
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September 16, 2014, 02:47:57 PM
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Dicebit.co.in.

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September 16, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
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Sportsbooks

Bitcoinlivebets
Blockbet
StakeBTC
Bitcoinsport
Bitbook
Coinbet

Predicted next to go under:
Webetcoins
Betbanks (it's not the book but the agent Don)

Predicted to go under after the NFL season:
DirectBet


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September 16, 2014, 05:31:47 PM
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This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic Smiley

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September 16, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
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I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


Great idea.

I will only post that a website is fraudulent if sufficient proof  is present.

First example:
Will be added to evil list.
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million is sufficient proof.

Second example:
Link leads to primedice which are pretty solid. Unless you can bring more evidence of malpractice, I will not include them in the evil list.
Dicebit.co.in.

This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic Smiley

Thank you, this is exactly what I am trying to do here.


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September 16, 2014, 06:13:23 PM
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Sportsbooks

Bitcoinlivebets
Blockbet
StakeBTC
Bitcoinsport
Bitbook
Coinbet

Predicted next to go under:
Webetcoins
Betbanks (it's not the book but the agent Don)

Predicted to go under after the NFL season:
DirectBet


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

LOL. Bitbook was the most reliable book. They gave all users an opportunity to withdraw funds before they were forced to shut down from DDOS.

Can we add Peeps Place to the scam list? This guy is a riot
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September 16, 2014, 06:14:31 PM
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Everybody that is not working on the chain can scam its customers.

My suggestion is to use sites that work on the chain with zero trust and provably fair, that is the bitcoin way.

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Sportsbooks

Bitcoinlivebets
Blockbet
StakeBTC
Bitcoinsport
Bitbook
Coinbet

Predicted next to go under:
Webetcoins
Betbanks (it's not the book but the agent Don)

Predicted to go under after the NFL season:
DirectBet


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

LOL. Bitbook was the most reliable book. They gave all users an opportunity to withdraw funds before they were forced to shut down from DDOS.

Can we add Peeps Place to the scam list? This guy is a riot
Bitbook gave players a 7 day window to withdraw funds. The window was extended to 10 days. Some players did not read the forum during this 10 day window and were not paid.

 Most sportsbooks will have problems with DDoS attacks. Sometimes the attackers will ask for a ransom to discontinue the attacks. All of the big fiat books have gone through it. It's up to the book to fix the problem.

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September 16, 2014, 08:10:57 PM
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Wow this sux. This gambling site need to be ddos Smiley

Hehehe when i enter this site it says PROFIT: -296.17561886 Cheesy

Can you please explain why you believe engaging in an illegal distributed denial of service attack is a good idea?

I personally do not think it is. If you have a problem, there are more reasonable and legal ways to deal with them.
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September 17, 2014, 05:20:45 AM
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List is filling slowly.
Can you all, post some article or some text about this like in my post.

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September 17, 2014, 07:34:20 AM
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This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic Smiley

Helps the newbies too!
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September 17, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
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I am making a list of every betting site that closed after stealing the coins of all of its users.

Post here every site that you know of (mtgox also counts in my book).

Also post the websites you suspect as next in line to bail with users funds, state that it is only a suspicion and not a site that ran away with coins.

Lets make BTC bets a safer place for us all.

Good luck mate

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September 17, 2014, 09:04:13 AM
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I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


I have received answer from their manager through email:

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Let me update you on this manner.

On 7th of September, we came aware of a malicious code inserted in our roll dice code, from a 3rd party coder we have hired to help us out with the load. Gerry, my partner, did the mistake to make a push of an admin'update' he was helping him with, without testing it thoroughly. The code which went live on 29th of August, was giving him the ability to'skip' winning nonces(in detail, he could put some criteria - for insance, if the user wants to win x amount of btc with odd higher than y, if the roll would be a winner it would skip the nonce and roll it again). That didnt infect everyone nor by default though. He had to chose manually which player to 'cheat'.That was a totally stupid way to implement it though, since if you were doing that, the bets could NOT be verified, since the nonce sequence would be broken. A user of ours found out by accident, on 7th of September. When we confirmed it, we haulted betting for everyone till we roll back the previous admin version, and made sure the rolls are as they have to be: provably fair. In addition, we refunded EVERY PLAYER who lost his coins due to this malicious code, from our own stash of bitcoins(and not sites' or investors). We took full responsibility for the mistake, and we paid for it. Of course, that was ubber gift for competitors especially PRCdice and PrimeDice, which kept throwing oil in the flames creating a near bank-run(investors started pulling out their coins like crazy brcause they thought we are scammers. However, given the fact that we didnt run with 7500 coins(!!)and we never haulted withdrawals/divests, nullifies it. In around 24h from the incident the bankroll shrinked from 7500 coins to ~1700, and we had one user, mateo, which was hitting the bankroll non stop for almost 12h more. Lot of speculation exists as well for that user, however he is a legit user and registered on site start of august(when we didnt have the other guy hired yet). Also, when the incident happened on 7th of September, he also randomized his rolls(and reset nonce) in order to verify if he got affected by the malixious code(he was -33 BTC before 7th of September, and no he wasnt affected). Given that fact plus that he randomized his rolls, there is 0% chance it could be someone that knew the server seed and played against it.

What are we finalizing now is to repay even the acounts that got affected by skipped rolls, EVEN if they ended up with profit. Again, we will pay that from our own stash.

Bottom line, even if you read that link, you will see at the end that the user in question was fully refunded. The'steal over 3m$' is complete bollox, and makes no sense at all. BankRoll was 7500, whixh means we COULD STEAL 3m$, but we didnt. Everything that is missing is from investors who pulled out their own coins. You can double-check that and in that post, and on forums. Not only we never stole one btc, but we did return ~6k btc to date back to whoever requested it. They try very hard to take DB down, but we wont do them the favour!

PS we are preparing also a nice post for thr forum, which will (re)explain exactly what happened, among with every user eho got affected. I repeat, all users with negative balance got refunded to the last BTC, and all the skipped rolls for users who ended up with profit anyways, will be credited as well(despite they ended up with profit). All withdrawals and divestings were honoured, and the roll is working flawesly again after 7th of September(anyone can verify by themself as well).

I`m not trying to protect dicebitcoin brand reputation or anything like that, but lets wait and analyze all the facts from both sides, before we will make any crucial decisions.
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September 17, 2014, 09:32:25 AM
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Noted this was only link that i found randomly on every day reading.





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September 17, 2014, 11:52:30 AM
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I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


Great idea.

I will only post that a website is fraudulent if sufficient proof  is present.

First example:
Will be added to evil list.
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million is sufficient proof.

Second example:
Link leads to primedice which are pretty solid. Unless you can bring more evidence of malpractice, I will not include them in the evil list.
Dicebit.co.in.

This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic Smiley

Thank you, this is exactly what I am trying to do here.




I bet on dicebit.co.in, I was doing anywhere from 0.1-4 BTC bets on 10x payout, and when ever I was due to win the nonce would skip and give me a different number causing me to lose. I verified all my bets where the nonce skipped and they were all winners. If their code wasn't rigged, I would have walked away with 61.8 BTC. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could include them on your list. I can provide proof if needed.

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September 17, 2014, 10:05:42 PM
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I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.


Great idea.

I will only post that a website is fraudulent if sufficient proof  is present.

First example:
Will be added to evil list.
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million is sufficient proof.

Second example:
Link leads to primedice which are pretty solid. Unless you can bring more evidence of malpractice, I will not include them in the evil list.
Dicebit.co.in.

This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic Smiley

Thank you, this is exactly what I am trying to do here.




I bet on dicebit.co.in, I was doing anywhere from 0.1-4 BTC bets on 10x payout, and when ever I was due to win the nonce would skip and give me a different number causing me to lose. I verified all my bets where the nonce skipped and they were all winners. If their code wasn't rigged, I would have walked away with 61.8 BTC. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could include them on your list. I can provide proof if needed.

I see that dicebit.co.in have no one to speak for them so I will take you on your word unless proven otherwise.

The only problem here is that their url leads to primedice, and so it could discredit them for no good reason (especially for newbies). How would you suggest I add them to the evil list in a way that is not harmful towards primedice?

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September 18, 2014, 05:10:05 AM
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Which of these sites work onchain and are marketing as provably fair ?

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