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September 19, 2014, 02:17:36 PM
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Sorry if this in the wrong section.

I am selling 7 BTC for irreversible payment methods, I might just sell on LBC for Bank Transfers but we'll see what we get here.

Let me know, thanks.
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September 19, 2014, 04:20:37 PM
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you mean methods where there is no Chargeback ? you can't chargeback Paypal (sent as gift) , Paysafecard , Wester Union , CashU , UKash , MasterCard ....

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September 19, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
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you mean methods where there is no Chargeback ? you can't chargeback Paypal (sent as gift) , Paysafecard , Wester Union , CashU , UKash , MasterCard ....
BULLSHIT

PayPal even as a gift, MasterCard and all other credit cards, bank transfers and almost all other forms of fiat can all be reversed.

I only sell for cold hard cash.  It is the only form of fiat that is certain to not get reversed.

localbitcoins.com doing an in person cash for BTC deal with a highly reputable dealer is the only way to be certain.

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September 19, 2014, 04:27:23 PM
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cash deal is prefered

other option WU,MG
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September 19, 2014, 04:38:54 PM
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cash deposits which you see most on localbitcoins and are the same as accepting cash in person, western union, money gram etc.


You also need to give your BTC rate.
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September 19, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
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you mean methods where there is no Chargeback ? you can't chargeback Paypal (sent as gift) , Paysafecard , Wester Union , CashU , UKash , MasterCard ....
BULLSHIT

PayPal even as a gift, MasterCard and all other credit cards, bank transfers and almost all other forms of fiat can all be reversed.

I only sell for cold hard cash.  It is the only form of fiat that is certain to not get reversed.

localbitcoins.com doing an in person cash for BTC deal with a highly reputable dealer is the only way to be certain.

Never heard that Paypal sent as gift can be chargebacked .
still you have UKash , CashU , Paysafecard , safe 100% .

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September 19, 2014, 06:17:40 PM
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Never heard that Paypal sent as gift can be chargebacked .
still you have UKash , CashU , Paysafecard , safe 100% .
It may be true that you were under the impression that paypal gifts cannot be reversed (they can) but how on Earth do you explain your inclusion of MasterCard in your list of safe payment methods?  Credit cards are, by far, the easiest payment method to reverse.  Often times all you need to do to dispute a charge is log in, find the charge and check a "dispute this charge" check box and your funds are immediately reversed.

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September 19, 2014, 06:26:45 PM
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paypal gift or not it can be reversed not again this story  Roll Eyes
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September 19, 2014, 06:44:10 PM
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EVERTHING is reversible, it's just a matter of how difficult.

Even a cash deposit into a bank account is reversible if the person depositing is quick enough, and meets a teller lenient enough. If you meet someone face-to-face for a cash transaction, there's no telling that he'll mug you later after he hands you the cash and you release the btc.

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September 19, 2014, 06:48:11 PM
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Never heard that Paypal sent as gift can be chargebacked .
still you have UKash , CashU , Paysafecard , safe 100% .
It may be true that you were under the impression that paypal gifts cannot be reversed (they can) but how on Earth do you explain your inclusion of MasterCard in your list of safe payment methods?  Credit cards are, by far, the easiest payment method to reverse.  Often times all you need to do to dispute a charge is log in, find the charge and check a "dispute this charge" check box and your funds are immediately reversed.

I use payoneer MasterCard , can't seem to find that on their website so .. idk mate
sorry for giving false informations

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September 19, 2014, 06:54:15 PM
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EVERTHING is reversible, it's just a matter of how difficult.

Even a cash deposit into a bank account is reversible if the person depositing is quick enough, and meets a teller lenient enough. If you meet someone face-to-face for a cash transaction, there's no telling that he'll mug you later after he hands you the cash and you release the btc.

You also have to worry about counterfeit cash when dealing face to face.

Localbitcoins and face to face is not as secure as people make it sound. So many things can go wrong.
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September 19, 2014, 09:30:26 PM
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EVERTHING is reversible, it's just a matter of how difficult.

Even a cash deposit into a bank account is reversible if the person depositing is quick enough, and meets a teller lenient enough. If you meet someone face-to-face for a cash transaction, there's no telling that he'll mug you later after he hands you the cash and you release the btc.

You also have to worry about counterfeit cash when dealing face to face.

Localbitcoins and face to face is not as secure as people make it sound. So many things can go wrong.
Yes things can go wrong and you have to be prepared for them.  Meet in a very public place.  Use one of those markers that detects counterfeit bills, etc.  I have done hundreds of face-to-face transactions with not one issue. 

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September 20, 2014, 02:58:41 AM
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I'm pretty sure the OP will not be getting scammed.

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September 20, 2014, 03:05:35 AM
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webmoney is not reversable

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September 20, 2014, 12:07:28 PM
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EVERTHING is reversible, it's just a matter of how difficult.

Even a cash deposit into a bank account is reversible if the person depositing is quick enough, and meets a teller lenient enough. If you meet someone face-to-face for a cash transaction, there's no telling that he'll mug you later after he hands you the cash and you release the btc.

You also have to worry about counterfeit cash when dealing face to face.

Localbitcoins and face to face is not as secure as people make it sound. So many things can go wrong.
Yes things can go wrong and you have to be prepared for them.  Meet in a very public place.  Use one of those markers that detects counterfeit bills, etc.  I have done hundreds of face-to-face transactions with not one issue. 
Markers just detect starch content. They don't protect you from quality counterfeits.

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September 20, 2014, 12:20:51 PM
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It's fine, I sold 2 of them to Gyft for AGC's and bought PS4 + other stuff.

Sold other 5 for a bank transfer, waited for it to clear before release on LBC
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September 20, 2014, 05:36:59 PM
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Irreversible payments are:

1. Perfect Money.
2. Payer.
3. Western union
4. Moneygram.

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September 22, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
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OKPay is a very hard form of payment. I believe Perfect Money is as well.

Best of all is crypto.
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September 22, 2014, 10:30:29 PM
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Irreversible payments are:

1. Perfect Money.
2. Payer.
3. Western union
4. Moneygram.

Its strictly stated that paypal masspay can not be reversed also the maximum fees on the senders end is $20 so can send $10,000 for $20 through paypal.

The conditions for it though require you to have actual paypal funds in your account balance and it needs to be an unlocked payment form by calling customer support. I've accepted masspay as a payment otioin for digital goods since 07 and haven't had a single case yet where I seen a paypal masspay reversal.

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