8 Dead in Attack on Ebola Team in Guinea 'Killed in Cold Blood'

[noviapriani]

Savages...killing people sent to help them.  And, Obama is sending our troops to help these people?

Eight dead in attack on Ebola team in Guinea. ‘Killed in cold blood.’

The bodies of eight people, including several health workers and three journalists, have been found days after they were attacked while distributing information about Ebola in a Guinean village near the city of Nzerekore, according to Reuters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/18/us-health-ebbola-guinea-idUSKBN0HD2JE20140918

"The eight bodies were found in the village latrine," Albert Damantang Camara, a spokesman for Guinea's government, told Reuters on Thursday. "Three of them had their throats slit."

When the delegation arrived on Tuesday to do disinfection work and educate people about preventing Ebola, angry and fearful residents began throwing rocks and beating people in the group with clubs according to the Los Angeles Times, which cited Guinean radio reports. The delegation, which included one local politician, fled into the bush to escape the attackers.
http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-attack-ebola-guinea-outreach-20140918-story.html
One journalist who managed to escape told reporters that she could hear the people looking for her while she hid, according to the BBC.

On Thursday, the bodies were found in the septic tank of a primary school in the village, according to Camara. They had been "killed in cold blood by the villagers," he added, according to the BBC.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29256443

Throughout this epidemic, public health officials have battled widespread fear and even doubts that the virus exists at all. The deadly attack illustrates the danger that health workers face as they try to spread information about the virus in an effort to control the deadliest Ebola outbreak in history.

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/09/18/missing-health-workers-in-guinea-were-educating-villagers-about-ebola-when-they-were-attacked/

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[sana8410]

I seriously do not understand why you wouldn't see a story like this only supports the need to send troops.  Do you not understand that if this is not contained, it is going to spread?  Potentially here?  There simply isn't time to "win hearts and minds" with a soft approach...Obviously as this story affirms..... so forced containment is the only option.

[noviapriani]

I seriously do not understand why you wouldn't see a story like this only supports the need to send troops.  Do you not understand that if this is not contained, it is going to spread?  Potentially here?  There simply isn't time to "win hearts and minds" with a soft approach...Obviously as this story affirms..... so forced containment is the only option.

I believe that is what some of us have said from the beginning.  That also includes stopping people, even American citizens, from coming to the US from these African countries.  But, nobody wants to do that, so don't talk to me about containment when that is the first thing that should be done.  We've had people right here on this forum that have insisted this isn't a threat to the US...that it can be contained.  Which is it???

[sana8410]

I seriously do not understand why you wouldn't see a story like this only supports the need to send troops.  Do you not understand that if this is not contained, it is going to spread?  Potentially here?  There simply isn't time to "win hearts and minds" with a soft approach...Obviously as this story affirms..... so forced containment is the only option.

I believe that is what some of us have said from the beginning.  That also includes stopping people, even American citizens, from coming to the US from these African countries.  But, nobody wants to do that, so don't talk to me about containment when that is the first thing that should be done.  We've had people right here on this forum that have insisted this isn't a threat to the US...that it can be contained.  Which is it???

If you have supported us sending troops to help with containment from the beginning, then why do you appear to be opposing it now?   And yes, I agree that some on this forum have taken the opposite position of being far too dismissive as well. 

Here's a thought...how about not going to either extreme?

[sana8410]

The fact is that Ebola, by comparation, has not killed as many Africans as other factors during the same time period.  But the fact is that Ebola is still spreading and without proper containment current predictions are for exponential growth.   It is much less likely to do that here and it does not require the level of panic of airborne transmission, but that doesn't mean it can't come here or mutate.


I'm sorry, but I don't understand why it is not reasonable to both try to stop the spread and also not freak the hell out.   

[noviapriani]

I seriously do not understand why you wouldn't see a story like this only supports the need to send troops.  Do you not understand that if this is not contained, it is going to spread?  Potentially here?  There simply isn't time to "win hearts and minds" with a soft approach...Obviously as this story affirms..... so forced containment is the only option.

I believe that is what some of us have said from the beginning.  That also includes stopping people, even American citizens, from coming to the US from these African countries.  But, nobody wants to do that, so don't talk to me about containment when that is the first thing that should be done.  We've had people right here on this forum that have insisted this isn't a threat to the US...that it can be contained.  Which is it???

If you have supported us sending troops to help with containment from the beginning, then why do you appear to be opposing it now?   And yes, I agree that some on this forum have taken the opposite position of being far too dismissive as well. 

Here's a thought...how about not going to either extreme?

No, I don't support sending troops to Africa....that's not what our military is for.  Just as '41' should not have sent our troops to Somalia for 'humanitarian reasons.'  Remember Clinton's Blackhawk Down?

[RodeoX]

You have to get into the minds of the villagers to understand. They have absolutely no trust in government and fear being dragged away to some camp. The camps are seen as dying places where the interned are caged and sometimes starved. Civil order is beginning to break down in the hot zone and it's only going to get worse. The latest figure look awful. Something like 200K cases by December. We have already moved too slowly, containment has been lost and it's chaos on the ground among the NGOs. Just wait till it goes exponential in Lagos.  

[noviapriani]

The fact is that Ebola, by comparation, has not killed as many Africans as other factors during the same time period.  But the fact is that Ebola is still spreading and without proper containment current predictions are for exponential growth.   It is much less likely to do that here and it does not require the level of panic of airborne transmission, but that doesn't mean it can't come here or mutate.


I'm sorry, but I don't understand why it is not reasonable to both try to stop the spread and also not freak the hell out.   

I am more concerned about what's coming over our southern border.  Terrorists have been caught, even people from Africa.  What if one of them gets through and has a Ebola??? So, excuse me if I am more concerned about the southern border than what is going on in Africa.   And, let's not forget innocent Americans that are being murdered, raped, among other crimes on a daily basis....by freaking illegal aliens.

[iCEBREAKER]

The fact is that Ebola, by comparation, has not killed as many Africans as other factors during the same time period.  But the fact is that Ebola is still spreading and without proper containment current predictions are for exponential growth.   It is much less likely to do that here and it does not require the level of panic of airborne transmission, but that doesn't mean it can't come here or mutate.


I'm sorry, but I don't understand why it is not reasonable to both try to stop the spread and also not freak the hell out.   

This is just Mother Nature taking out her trash.  Seal them off and let them live deal with the consequences of rejecting science in favor of embracing superstition.

The rest of the world figured out that germs exist, and magic does not, hundreds of years ago.  There will be chaos, but that's predator/prey cycles for ya!

Good riddance to the 'Ebola Team' too.  They should know better than to try and fix stupid.  Gives new meaning to the phrase 'bleeding hearts.'   

[RodeoX]

P.S. the good news is that this is not much of a threat in the U.S. and Europe. Our infectious disease surveillance is effective at finding vector cases and isolating any contacts. Its Africa that is going to pay the price.

[sana8410]

Our military is for national security.  How is it not prudent to prevent ebola coming over the border or even innocently by air travel by eradicating it at the source?  Using 3000 troops in Africa is not going to prevent or take away troops from guarding the southern border if there was a even a will to do so...that is a separate issue.

Furthermore we pay a sizable chunk of the who so it only makes sense to not let this escalate.   Epidemics like this are actually a good reason for nations to come together for mutual aid.  

[RodeoX]

Our military is for national security.  How is it not prudent to prevent ebola coming over the border or even innocently by air travel by eradicating it at the source?  Using 3000 troops in Africa is not going to prevent or take away troops from guarding the southern border if there was a even a will to do so...that is a separate issue.

Furthermore we pay a sizable chunk of the who so it only makes sense to not let this escalate.   Epidemics like this are actually a good reason for nations to come together for mutual aid.  

I agree, although those troops are going to have a rough job. It's not clear what they will be in charge of. I doubt, for example, that they will be commanding the Chinese soldiers who just arrived there. The problem on the ground now is a lack of coordination between countries, NGOs, armies, hospitals. What a mess.