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September 22, 2014, 06:01:58 AM
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Oh my god your so poor on fictions, you trying to do to blame other people at all people understood that it was you, Iam do exchange for one person who contact me by icq I cant dentify who it was, also on your picture I see that you erased ticket number, why you do that? maybe because ticket not exist? no have idea why you scare to show number

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I have 1 idea how you can do that, gaza-shop.com your shop right?, in Prepaid cards section we can find that you are selling perfect money vouchers right? http://gaza-shop.com/PrePaid-Cards, we start disscussing deal 3:40 pm and you send me voucher 11:10 pm. You have 7 hours to sell Perfectmoney e-voucher, how many custumers you have 300 or 500 or 1000? Easy for you. You made big delay between getting info which volume I need for exchange and time when did you send me e-voucher. I think that this 7 hrs you was continuously looking for person who need Perfect money same amount. Not so diffcult to find person who need perfect money, 80% use it for Internet payments.

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 15:51)
4000$ I need

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 15:51)
Ok lemme check my pm balance

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 15:51)
ok

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 16:07)
what do you do

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 16:08)
Ok available

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 16:08)
Plz send your WMz here : Z214221457815




30 minutes later  you said me that you have to go, but I insisted on completing deal, anyway you went




Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:11)
your skype hacked?

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:12)
what about icq


Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:14)
what going on, reply me faster please


Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:14)
What's your problem

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:14)
I told you ok

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:14)
I don't have all the time for you

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:15)
I find your skype got hacked

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:15)
So you do what are you doing and finish

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:15)
Yes

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:15)
I already warned all about that

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:20)
ok i need electronic voucher, can you do?

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:20)
No

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
I will send directly only

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
Anyway its 2 hours passed

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:21)
Iam need voucher because my pm fee 2%
 comment:  I dont have confirmed Perfectmoney account, Aim not an exchanger, Iam not use Webmoney, paypal, only perfect money and bitcoint time to time, my Trust level very low, thats why my transfer fee 2% I can show it by video conference

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
Have to go now

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
Ok when i'm back i will do vouchers for you

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
BRB

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:22)
how long should I wait? i ready to do it now

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:22)
Will text you when im back

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:29)
pm sent when you back reply me in private message

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:49)
text me when you back

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 18:40)
back?

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 18:49)
I need now

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 19:47)
have person who need 10/12 bitcoins what your rate

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 19:47)
I mean he want sold it

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 19:47)
not buy

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 19:51)
Hi

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 19:51)
I will be back after 1 hour











Time you gave it to me

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 23:10)
Here is your voucher

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 23:10)
e-Voucher #   8042010501
Activation code   1255099259180210
Amount   4000.00 USD

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 23:13)
Got it ?






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September 22, 2014, 08:05:44 AM
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you read conversation first then ask your questions

I just read all this thread and Dr-exchanger reply back here

and willing to mention here that Dr-Exchanger is very legit very honest old exchanger and there never scam anyone

I strongly believed that topic starter must be liar and scammer

as many facts to proof it
1. First of all its very suspecious that why this bullshit scammer asking provide e-voucher?Huh while Dr was clearly offered him send directly pm funds to his pm id??

off couse they was already planned to scam Dr and try to destory Dr-Exchanger reputations

and they just got e-voucher which was I storngly believed that was 100% valid and this scammer just used it and they also open fake claim on wmz too

I traded many many times with Dr-exchanger and still never got any problem so far even we traded around 8000 US Dollars

I always ask Dr to pay back me via directly transfer perfect money and never ask them to provide e-voucher

and they always pay back honestly so I must want to said here that Dr-exchanger is very legit very honest guy
and this thread starter must be bullshit scammer

this scammer Etlase2 must need to be got BIG read color negative feed back

Etlase2 you must be poor Russian bullshit scammer and you must need to banned here

you totally lair and scammer whose try scam 4000 USD amount and destroy Dr-exchanger reputation


 

Now you are suspicious, Yesterday Dr. Exchanger got accused for Scam and you suddenly active after 1 month and defending Dr. Excanger. And again you are here to defend him. It's not your duty to defend him if you are not Shill of Dr. Exchanger.

Dr. Exchanger will defend himself. Leave this him and Etlase2.

We saw here people who were very trusted long time, but suddenly they decided to scam and they did scammed.
So don't defend Dr. Exchanger.

You absolutely right, this person post only positive feedbacks to Dr.Exchanger, seems like he doing feedbacks for yourself , you can find here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=214455;sa=showPosts  5 positive feedbacks for Dr.Exchanger for last 60 days looks like very stupid way of promoting his business

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=214455  2 feedbacks in Trust

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September 22, 2014, 08:11:37 AM
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Gamblesoon: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=732361.0

Is this him? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=65661 - Interesting because Etlase2 left him trust less then a month ago. Could this be his "client"?

Yes, He is
and if you noticed, you will find that Etlase2 the only feedback he has is from Gamblesoon

and please notice that he did't reply on my Proof ... He just posted like 4 or 5 posts to make my proof not visible for all I think, but i will reply on him and will post my proofs again


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September 22, 2014, 08:16:28 AM
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Oh my god your so poor on fictions, you trying to do to blame other people at all people understood that it was you, Iam do exchange for one person who contact me by icq I cant dentify who it was, also on your picture I see that you erased ticket number, why you do that? maybe because ticket not exist? no have idea why you scare to show number

!!!!!!!!!
as you ignored my proofs and keeped claiming that I have scammed you
so I think that you are Gamblesoon
Same provocation and same Bloody Way of talk

what you need from the ticket Number ?!!
you need it to login to the ticket and contact the support instead of me ?!! Cheesy
That's why I have erased it

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September 22, 2014, 08:25:19 AM
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Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:20)
ok i need electronic voucher, can you do?

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:20)
No

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
I will send directly only

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
Anyway its 2 hours passed

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:21)
Iam need voucher because my pm fee 2%



That's for all, If I'm scammer I would welcome with the idea of giving him Voucher instead of sending directly for it
I was insisting to send him directly, so there would be proof of transaction
But he told me to save the 2% fees ( for me that only means that he will not load on his account, cause if he load in his account he won't save that 2% fees ) The fees is applied on Sending money on Perfectmoney
and its 0.5% fees for sending from verified account and 2% fees for sending from unverified account


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September 22, 2014, 08:32:09 AM
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I'm repeating my post again to be visible for all
cause he just replied with many posts have no any relations with the proof not to make it visible for all
and Please all read all my posts and my proofs and you will know the truth

Here is my proof that I didn't scam anyone
please Read all very carefully


I have contacted the perfectmoney support that I have been scammed for the 4000 usd PM voucher to know who loaded it and if that possible to be refunded and they Replied that its been loaded on that account : U5422026 ... which username there is : Exchangehere
That account is for a Bloody Russian Guy who work as exchanger also, Hi is called : Gamblesoon

I know that cause I was buying from him moneypak before and stopped business with him cause he accused me that I have scammed him for 300 usd moneypak

so, there is 2 possibilities here :
You are that guy Gamblesoon and trying to spoil my reputation again for a reason I don't know it
OR You were selling that PM voucher to Gamblesoon and he scammed you on it and you thought that I gave you an invalid voucher

I hope you are the second possibility

and I hope the Truth are evident for you all now  Sad






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September 22, 2014, 08:57:17 AM
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I'm repeating for talk wth my customer I used jabber, for talk with you I use icq, you not change your skype long time so this thing make us belive that you scammer

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I'm repeating for talk wth my customer I used jabber, for talk with you I use icq, you not change your skype long time so this thing make us belive that you scammer

you have time to resell voucher so I'm think you resell to that guy, anyway you gave me used code, I dont care who you sell It, I have my PM account that i showed in first posts of this scam thread, my account not verified, if you need I can show you online

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September 22, 2014, 09:31:07 AM
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I have 1 idea how you can do that, gaza-shop.com your shop right?, in Prepaid cards section we can find that you are selling perfect money vouchers right? http://gaza-shop.com/PrePaid-Cards, we start disscussing deal 3:40 pm and you send me voucher 11:10 pm. You have 7 hours to sell Perfectmoney e-voucher, how many custumers you have 300 or 500 or 1000? Easy for you. You made big delay between getting info which volume I need for exchange and time when did you send me e-voucher. I think that this 7 hrs you was continuously looking for person who need Perfect money same amount. Not so diffcult to find person who need perfect money, 80% use it for Internet payments.

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 15:51)
4000$ I need

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 15:51)
Ok lemme check my pm balance

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 15:51)
ok

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 16:07)
what do you do

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 16:08)
Ok available

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 16:08)
Plz send your WMz here : Z214221457815




30 minutes later  you said me that you have to go, but I insisted on completing deal, anyway you went




Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:11)
your skype hacked?

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:12)
what about icq


Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:14)
what going on, reply me faster please


Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:14)
What's your problem

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:14)
I told you ok

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:14)
I don't have all the time for you

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:15)
I find your skype got hacked

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:15)
So you do what are you doing and finish

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:15)
Yes

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:15)
I already warned all about that

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:20)
ok i need electronic voucher, can you do?

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:20)
No

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
I will send directly only

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
Anyway its 2 hours passed

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:21)
Iam need voucher because my pm fee 2%
 comment:  I dont have confirmed Perfectmoney account, Aim not an exchanger, Iam not use Webmoney, paypal, only perfect money and bitcoint time to time, my Trust level very low, thats why my transfer fee 2% I can show it by video conference

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
Have to go now

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
Ok when i'm back i will do vouchers for you

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:21)
BRB

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:22)
how long should I wait? i ready to do it now

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 17:22)
Will text you when im back

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:29)
pm sent when you back reply me in private message

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 17:49)
text me when you back

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 18:40)
back?

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 18:49)
I need now

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 19:47)
have person who need 10/12 bitcoins what your rate

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 19:47)
I mean he want sold it

Etlase 2 (19.09.2014 19:47)
not buy

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 19:51)
Hi

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 19:51)
I will be back after 1 hour











Time you gave it to me

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 23:10)
Here is your voucher

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 23:10)
e-Voucher #   8042010501
Activation code   1255099259180210
Amount   4000.00 USD

Dr-Exchanger (19.09.2014 23:13)
Got it ?







Same you, I repeat, through your shop you can sell it too anyone

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September 22, 2014, 09:38:58 AM
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I dont want stop to repeat, I not care who you sold it or maybe you gave it for free, I told you I got invalid info, it wasnt loaded to my account and you gave proofs which show us that I didnt, of course if this proofs not fakes

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September 22, 2014, 10:34:29 AM
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Here is my WMz Account Screenshot :



which shows I didn't transfer any funds from there !


Do you use 2 yahoo accounts at one time? I see on your photo proofs

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Do you use 2 yahoo accounts at one time? I see on your photo proofs

Yes i do
And i use 2 skypes also
I use 1 yahoo & 1 skype account for arab clients in arabic forums
And i use 1 yahoo & 1 skype for English clients in English forums
And that's not your business

You are just repeating your words and the only thing i will do with you is to ignore you and repeating my proofs Wink

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September 22, 2014, 01:37:02 PM
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Again !!
I'm repeating my post again to be visible for all
cause he just replied with many posts have no any relations with the proof not to make it visible for all
and Please all read all my posts and my proofs and you will know the truth

Here is my proof that I didn't scam anyone
please Read all very carefully


I have contacted the perfectmoney support that I have been scammed for the 4000 usd PM voucher to know who loaded it and if that possible to be refunded and they Replied that its been loaded on that account : U5422026 ... which username there is : Exchangehere
That account is for a Bloody Russian Guy who work as exchanger also, Hi is called : Gamblesoon

I know that cause I was buying from him moneypak before and stopped business with him cause he accused me that I have scammed him for 300 usd moneypak

so, there is 2 possibilities here :
You are that guy Gamblesoon and trying to spoil my reputation again for a reason I don't know it
OR You were selling that PM voucher to Gamblesoon and he scammed you on it and you thought that I gave you an invalid voucher

I hope you are the second possibility

and I hope the Truth are evident for you all now  Sad






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September 22, 2014, 02:12:47 PM
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Again !!
I'm repeating my post again to be visible for all
cause he just replied with many posts have no any relations with the proof not to make it visible for all
and Please all read all my posts and my proofs and you will know the truth

Here is my proof that I didn't scam anyone
please Read all very carefully


I have contacted the perfectmoney support that I have been scammed for the 4000 usd PM voucher to know who loaded it and if that possible to be refunded and they Replied that its been loaded on that account : U5422026 ... which username there is : Exchangehere
That account is for a Bloody Russian Guy who work as exchanger also, Hi is called : Gamblesoon

I know that cause I was buying from him moneypak before and stopped business with him cause he accused me that I have scammed him for 300 usd moneypak

so, there is 2 possibilities here :
You are that guy Gamblesoon and trying to spoil my reputation again for a reason I don't know it
OR You were selling that PM voucher to Gamblesoon and he scammed you on it and you thought that I gave you an invalid voucher

I hope you are the second possibility

and I hope the Truth are evident for you all now  Sad







yes from your words I'm understand that you resell second hands

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yes from your words I'm understand that you resell second hands

No, you understand from my words that you provided that code to that guy Gamblesoon
or you are the same him

and I vouch for the second possibilty cause same way of talk ... same way of haterd .. same way of spoiling reputation Smiley

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yes from your words I'm understand that you resell second hands

No, you understand from my words that you provided that code to that guy Gamblesoon
or you are the same him

and I vouch for the second possibilty cause same way of talk ... same way of haterd .. same way of spoiling reputation Smiley

Oh my god! Are you really think that you will win if you will blame the fictional characters, you are really crippled, and you very dangerous for society, your persecution complex will lead you to a mental hospital, I can't understand how you've worked so long time and you still didn't banned

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You guys, all you are doing is arguing back and forth. There is no way you are going to resolve this in this matter. The only advice I can give is to contact the exchanger, perfect money I think is their name.. If they cant resolve it and you both stick to your guns, all your going to do is waste bandwidth.. I dont know either one of you so I cant so who is in the right. but maybe you should communicate via pm or skype... this argument is going no where..
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You guys, all you are doing is arguing back and forth. There is no way you are going to resolve this in this matter. The only advice I can give is to contact the exchanger, perfect money I think is their name.. If they cant resolve it and you both stick to your guns, all your going to do is waste bandwidth.. I dont know either one of you so I cant so who is in the right. but maybe you should communicate via pm or skype... this argument is going no where..

Thank you for that advice
and that's exactly what i'm doing
im already communicating with the PM support trying to charge back this funds
But im not arguing here at all, I'm providing my strict proofs That I never used that voucher
and if there is any intention to use it i would'nt say to him at first that I will send the PM funds directly to his account
If I insisted at that, all these problems would never happen
But I'm continuing learning however the long time I have spent at this business

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September 23, 2014, 06:06:13 PM
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Here is a new surprise about etlase2
after all this shit happened, I have discovered now that's hacked account
and the owner of this account tried to get it back long time ago without a result !!
here is the link of the thread of the original owner of the account - PLEASE TAKE A LOOK :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412480.msg8942329#msg8942329

also here is screenshot of His Trust Rating about reporting his account hacked !!



you can find that in his Trust page also

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