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Proof-of-Origin | Protoshare | Polymorphic ĐApps







We are the entrepreneurs and engineers of the third millennium
We believe that 1000x more efficient global economy is possible
We know how to make apps which will pay us
We have the technology to change everything
Together we can do more

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We define the Future of the Internet











We build industry of polymorphic ĐApps



                 



















We connect the dots



                     


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To be distributed to 40k professionals who invested in Ethereum, MaidSafe, NXT, Counterparty, BitShares. Ready for use crosschain infrastructure for intelligent shares distribution of your polymorphic ĐApps.








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10 cyber•Shares + 100 cyber•Talks shares for everybody who will introduce yourself to our community!!!
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Only 1 000 000 cyberShares ever existed

1 cyber•Share is divisible to 1 000 000 neurons





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We have long and interesting story that is partly described in our blog and at habrahabr.ru (sorry for Russian - we didn't think that we'll go so far and that all this stuff will happen in our country). As result the paper have been born. We wanted to make popular scientific paper that is accessible for a wide range of readers. So that is why some times paper is philosophical. Some time it give atomic level user cases for using in marketing. There is a lot of interesting there. Enjoy and please help to improve the quality because English is not our natural language. There is bounty. Paper is published as book in Gitbook format. There is bounties for translation.








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Everything about this seems like it's needlessly complicated with marketing buzzwords disguised as technobabble.

This is like a sci-fi reimagining of the Adam and Eve coin.


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September 20, 2014, 01:43:37 PM
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Everything about this seems like it's needlessly complicated with marketing buzzwords disguised as technobabble.

This is like a sci-fi reimagining of the Adam and Eve coin.

Thanks for feedback. Please read the paper, their you will find information about all innovation, and find links on the proofs.
cyber•Fund is product oriented. Core products on the seed stage are cyber•Wallet, cyber•Pie and cyber•Inceptor.

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September 20, 2014, 02:04:37 PM
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Everything about this seems like it's needlessly complicated with marketing buzzwords disguised as technobabble.

This is like a sci-fi reimagining of the Adam and Eve coin.

Thanks for feedback. Please read the paper, their you will find information about all innovation, and find links on the proofs.
cyber•Fund is product oriented. Core products on the seed stage are cyber•Wallet, cyber•Pie and cyber•Inceptor.

Konstantin

No, thanks. If your ANN is any indication of what I'll be reading, I'm sure there will be lots of words with black circles in them in order to rename existing concepts along your theme.


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September 20, 2014, 02:19:34 PM
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Everything about this seems like it's needlessly complicated with marketing buzzwords disguised as technobabble.

This is like a sci-fi reimagining of the Adam and Eve coin.

Thanks for feedback. Please read the paper, their you will find information about all innovation, and find links on the proofs.
cyber•Fund is product oriented. Core products on the seed stage are cyber•Wallet, cyber•Pie and cyber•Inceptor.

Konstantin

No, thanks. If your ANN is any indication of what I'll be reading, I'm sure there will be lots of words with black circles in them in order to rename existing concepts along your theme.

If you find any black circles i our paper we will be glad if you informs us about that. cyber•Fund is open for everebody to join it. We will be glad if you helps us to make our ideas stronger and better.

Artificial Intelligent Network or AIN or, simply, global brain - cybernetic system which follows 6 fundamental principles: existence of meaning, cryptographic proof, digital value, efficient communications, self-consciousness and equilibrium. First AIN ever existed is Bitcoin. For 5 years of Bitcoin existence was born 500 AINs only in visible part of Digital Universe.

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If you find any black circles i our paper we will be glad if you informs us about that. cyber•Fund is open for everebody to join it. We will be glad if you helps us to make our ideas stronger and better.

Artificial Intelligent Network or AIN or, simply, global brain - cybernetic system which follows 6 fundamental principles: existence of meaning, cryptographic proof, digital value, efficient communications, self-consciousness and equilibrium. First AIN ever existed is Bitcoin. For 5 years of Bitcoin existence was born 500 AINs only in visible part of Digital Universe.

Konstantin

The black circles I'm referring to are your words like cyber•Fund where you just take existing concepts and rename them for branding purposes to make them seem like innovation by inflating them with bullet points that are merely vague descriptors of general crypto project goals.

Just keep renaming those drink sizes. Your customers will never notice.

Maybe it sounds less crazy in Russian before you translate it.


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If you find any black circles i our paper we will be glad if you informs us about that. cyber•Fund is open for everebody to join it. We will be glad if you helps us to make our ideas stronger and better.

Artificial Intelligent Network or AIN or, simply, global brain - cybernetic system which follows 6 fundamental principles: existence of meaning, cryptographic proof, digital value, efficient communications, self-consciousness and equilibrium. First AIN ever existed is Bitcoin. For 5 years of Bitcoin existence was born 500 AINs only in visible part of Digital Universe.

Konstantin

The black circles I'm referring to are your words like cyber•Fund where you just take existing concepts and rename them for branding purposes to make them seem like innovation by inflating them with bullet points that are merely vague descriptors of general crypto project goals.

Just keep renaming those drink sizes. Your customers will never notice.

Maybe it sounds less crazy in Russian before you translate it.

Cybernetics as a science has began to evolve from Norbert Wiener defined it in 1948. There are thousands of researches that solve problems in closed systems in any aspect of existence, especially economic systems. In 1958  John von Neumann have supposed that computers programmable by peoples can solve any existing problem. Today we all understand that this is true. Computing system is everywhere helping people to solve problems. But stored-program concept still did not solve the problem of self-consciousness. In 2008 Satoshi Nakomoto have proposed Bitcoin. The first system that has inborn ability to form self-organized closed economy system that cryptographically prove existence of itself. Bitcoin solves problem of trustless communications in closed system. In 2013 year ago David R. Weinbaumin defined global brains in the paper A Framework for Scalable Cognition. He defined almost everything concerning global brains except one thing - implementation. This paper is effort to connecting all the dots moving cybernetics and global brains further to more applicable space: cryptocurrency networks, internet of money, of things and everything. We propose to evolve existing economic system to new generation cybernetic economic system by solving one of the most excited problem ever existed.

cyber Fund in the paper creates Cybernetic Business Framework or CBF or simply, cyberframework  - cybernetics method that uses mixed biological and artificial intelligent agents on top of existing crypto network infrastructure as global brains to solve problems significantly efficient.

Using the rules of Cybernetic Business Framework everybody can start corporation of your dream right now that could automagicaly begin to evolve.
Automagic - general intelligence i.e. the spontaneous discovery of problems in the environment and the emergence of specific problem solving capabilities without the guidance of a designer. Automagic works better the more network effect has been achieved.

So using steps of Cybernetic Business Framework we create cyber Fund and we will create our core products:

cyber•Wallet
Problem: There is no embeddable wallet for issuing and managing digital assets within core protocols: Colored coins, Counterparty, Next, Ripple, BitsharesX and Ethereum. Using this zoo is too complicated for your grandpa.
Solution: cyber•Wallet - easy to use trustless embeddable multisig wallet for any digital property with intelligent adaptive learning engine.
cyber•Wallet is core cyber•Fund product for everybody, for developers, for entrepreneurs, for marketers and any future cyber products. cyber•Walle acts as perception mechanism or eye and make possible for global brain to see what happens. Follow product status on Trello Board.

cyber•Pie
Problem: Too complicated to invest in crypto assets for everybody. Need expertise to make decisions, need knowledges to execute.
Solution: cyber•Pie - the most intelligent investment portfolio ever existed in one click.
Awesome investment opportunity for those who believe in global brains opportunities. Cyber•Pie investors certain about their future. Portfolio is designed to growth faster than Bitcoin! Cyber•Pie is core cyber•Fund product for generating revenues and growthing authority. Cyber•Pie acts as memory of global brain. Memory want to remember more and only the best values. Follow product status on Trello Board.

cyber•Inceptor
Problem: Local attention mechanisms of global brain into a collective attention of the group. The two problems involving the attention mechanism are of course strongly coupled. In fact they can be considered as two aspects of the same problem. The first aspect focuses on modeling the cognitive agents in functional terms without highlighting how the functional components are implemented. The second aspect is inspired by a connectionist approach that highlights the emergence of functionality, at any level, from the interactions of elements one level lower.
Solution: cyber•Inceptor - Focus and Inspiration of cyber•Fund global brain.
cyber•Inceptor is crowdfunding platform which help cybernetic companies to receive investments in exchange for shares. cyber•Inceptor is input of cybernetic economy, entrepreneurs just need to download the paper to the platform and all the community (global brain) will be Focused and Inspired. Cyber•Inceptor - Automagic evolving of any idea for inventors of 3 millenium. Follow product status on Trello Board.

In addition you can look at our value model. And you will understand why each of this products will be successful.

p.s. we didn't write this paper on Russian, if you read post you will find bounty for the translation on Russian.

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It's a huge chunk of text, but you're just further reinforcing my point. Sorry if your English skills are lacking, but your intent is transparent.


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I am very interesting but have couple questions.

1. Is there any escrow?
2. So far we can't see anything except a long piece of words, it looks ambitious, but god knows if it is realistic, some ideas are the same as  perpetual motion machine.Did you guys have done the research of feasibility.

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1. Is there any escrow?
There is no escrow except multisig wallet 3to5 for now. If you can suggest any mechanism that fits everybody - awesome - we wiil do it.

So far we can't see anything except a long piece of words, it looks ambitious, but god knows if it is realistic, some ideas are the same as  perpetual motion machine.Did you guys have done the research of feasibility.
3 products that we've announce seems feasible for us in aprx. 1 year timeframe (not alpha, not beta, but working products). Yes we will code a wallet, we already have some code of pie investments (it was written before become obvious Ethereum is superior for this purposes - so we decide to develop from the very beginning) and Inceptor in case of successfully development of embeddable wallet - is just some code. Other projects could be assumed as fantasy - better to dream than not. There will be no products before core will be developed.

some ideas are the same as  perpetual motion machine
Digital marketing is perpetual motion machine in case of effective funnels adjustment. We have awesome expertise within it. Bitcoin already has great feedback loop and it could be better more great products come. Cyber•Fund want to form community that will evolve industry focused on principles of external competing (fiat) instead of internal (crypto). That is more efficient in self organised environment. Everything we do should be reusable for those who compete with legacy economy. So that is the way to achieve better network effects.

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It's a huge chunk of text, but you're just further reinforcing my point. Sorry if your English skills are lacking, but your intent is transparent.
Nobody want to reinforce your point. You are absolutely right. But let me try to explain. We've tried to gather the best and add lacking in our work. Our goal is not to compete, for example, with Bitshares - they have awesome community and products and we do not want to growth only because we want to reinvent DAO concept. It is awesome concept for some tasks. But we add cybernetics, global brain theory and digital marketing practise to build systems that efficiently utilise both machines and peoples abilities. That is obvious that self-organising is cool but it works better with some simple tricks.

We see a lot of inefficient efforts within community. For example from product point of view new wallet for any new system is insanity. Nobody will use this zoo. Building apps combining system tokens (that utilise machines) and product level tokens (that utilise peoples) is clear and efficient model. For now hundreds of coins is just random brute force of meaningless parameters. Others competing for anonymity. And very few guys understand how to use product level tokens (newborn shares) to build efficient business models for new generation apps. We do not want to invent wheel. We want to make a good road.

Yes. Some our ideas are insane. That is it. But there is axiom: The code that works is the Science, otherwise - not. We have a chance to see.

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September 22, 2014, 01:59:17 PM
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Update

cyber•Fund Paper will be translated in Chinese soon!

You can check the updates at the link below:
https://docs.google.com/a/cyberfund.io/document/d/103fUq_jncQLjIkHZbC_2ATB2XOO7DD3pn6Cf5flvm18/edit#heading=h.l4s3a2qo6zf

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We add more structure to our forum. Hope that it will be convenient place for everybody who interested in industry but cannot check thousand of threads.

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Our paper is published in Gitbook format.
Fork requests are highly appreciated in public repo

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I think this is an ambitious project, but why there are so less guys interesting in it, it's weird.

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September 24, 2014, 12:09:25 PM
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I think this is an ambitious project, but why there are so less guys interesting in it, it's weird.
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Thanks for awesome feedback! We are not using bots or tweaks - maybe that is why :-)

Another reason is that everybody flow with the flow with algorithms within proof-of-work instead of using groundbreaking tech to build products with features that doesn't exist before. Very few guys think about digital marketing just because they do not understand its power. There is a lot of reasons... I remember Next with 76 bitcoins or so funded while another stupid coins get thousands.

One more reason: everybody like to click and check that something works. It will but we need time. We now setting up and testing funnels. After this work will be finished we will switch to dev.

We really want to form strong and true community to deliver the meaning of innovations described by the paper. I think it needs time for community to awake. Regards for any help and involvement.

Please send us your Coinprism public key, then we will send you 5 cyber share, and you will be part of our us :-)

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what;s the price per share?

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September 24, 2014, 12:24:26 PM
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MARK,COME HERE LATER  Grin
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September 24, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
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what;s the price per share?

We have self-motivation funding mechanism so it possible to calculate exact price of share only after finish of Genesis Sale Race.
Simple case: Will be rised 1000 btc. Pool of purchaser 31% (do not forget about reserve and seed investments - that is also your money). So 1 Share (1000 btc / 310000 shares) = 0,003225806 btc

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September 24, 2014, 12:38:51 PM
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MARK,COME HERE LATER  Grin


Thanks for trolling ) You can get 1 cyber•Share :-)
If serious: We also lost almost 200 btc from this stupidness. That is the reason why we decide to start without code before Ethereum came.

Could you be so kind and explain risks of fraud and scam within fully trustless environment with open peoples? Our team has high trust level within Russian business and government circles. Appreciation for due diligence of our project. Bounty - 300 cyber•Shares. Any make sense proposals will be implemented.

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