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September 20, 2014, 03:44:38 PM
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/17/hello-cheap-energy-hello-brave-new-world/

Please comment , what do you think about it ?
ecat.com - official website.
Lets do revolution !!!
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September 20, 2014, 05:39:38 PM
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It's probably a scam. The inventor has kept the details secret so there is no way to independently verify that it is legitimate.

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September 20, 2014, 05:42:26 PM
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It's probably a scam. The inventor has kept the details secret so there is no way to independently verify that it is legitimate.

It's a scam

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Demonstrations and experiments[edit]

Invited guests attended several demonstrations in Bologna in 2011.[34][35][36] The device has not been not independently verified. Of a January demonstration, Discovery Channel analyst Benjamin Radford wrote that "If this all sounds fishy to you, it should," and that "In many ways cold fusion is similar to perpetual motion machines. The principles defy the laws of physics, but that doesn't stop people from periodically claiming to have invented or discovered one."[37] According to PhysOrg (11 August 2011), the demonstrations held from January to April 2011 had several flaws that compromised their credibility and Rossi had refused to perform tests that could verify his claims.[2]

University of Bologna researchers have attended some E-Cat experiments, but only as observers. On 5 November 2011, the University of Bologna clarified that its researchers had not been involved in the demonstrations and that none of the experiments took place at the university. Rossi had signed a contract with the university, but the contract was terminated and no research was done because Rossi didn't make the first payment.[38][39][40][41][42]

Skeptic Ian Bryce believes that the E-cat is misconnected during demonstrations, and that the power attributed to fusion is supplied to the device through the earth wire.[43][44] Dick Smith offered Rossi one million dollars to demonstrate that the E-Cat system worked as claimed, while the power through the earth wire was also being measured, which Rossi refused.[45][46] Peter Thieberger, a senior physicist at Brookhaven National Laboratory, said it would be very difficult for this misconnection to happen by accident and that the issue could only be cleared with a fully independent test.[43]

Another demonstration on 6 October 2011 reportedly lasted for about eight hours.[47][48][49] Roland Pettersson, retired Associate Professor from the University of Uppsala, who witnessed it said "I'm convinced that this works, but there is still room for more measurements".[19]

On 28 October 2011 the unit was "customer tested" and was said to release 2,635 kWh during five and a half hours of self-sustained mode, an average power of 479 kilowatts – just under half the promised power of one megawatt. Independent observers were not allowed to watch the measurements or make their own, and the plant remained connected to a power supply during the test allegedly to supply power to the fans and the water pumps.[50][51][52][53]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer

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September 20, 2014, 08:26:59 PM
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Uhm, and what if not ?
Banks are telling that Bitcoin is scam.. If you were able to get energy THAT cheap, you can get rid off some goverment control, right?
Maybe we can risk and make a crowd-buy cheapest position, and if it really works...
Or it has 0% chance to be reality ?
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September 20, 2014, 08:36:08 PM
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Uhm, and what if not ?
Banks are telling that Bitcoin is scam..
Something that helps you tell that Bitcoin itself is not a scam is that it's fully open. Anyone can analyse how it works. So while we can politely disagree about whether Bitcoin has the right approach, we can't say that it is scamming anyone.

It's the "but what if it's not a scam!?" reaction that they're trying to exploit, and that coupled with the secrecy tells you that it is a scam. They've been trying to invite people to these closed stage-managed demonstrations for years.
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September 20, 2014, 08:46:43 PM
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Nickel Hydrogen? I'd be very wary of any title that screams about cheap and infinite sources of electricity especially if they keep it a secret, anyone who had actually invented that would probably pull a Satoshi Nakamoto and release it open source to the world so that you wouldn't have any groups trying to monopolise the technology for themselves. I'll research it a bit but I'm very doubtful, it also says you need heat to start it which means that you'll be burning something and that will be some kind of fuel, so realistically unless they have somehow managed to make a candle produce several hundred kilowatts It isn't going to be that revolutionary.

The only kind of technology I've heard of regarding hydrogen that sounds promising is hydrogen fuel cells and that's a process that has a by-product of water which truly is revolutionary, there are already companies working on that stuff now though and they just need to get the infrastructure sorted out but they have working prototypes.
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September 20, 2014, 09:36:15 PM
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Big commercial miners, like digitalBTC will be looking for cheap renewables and driving innovation.
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