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September 21, 2014, 01:34:07 AM
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Starting from 20th September, most Chinese couldn't get access to bitcointalk.org.
8btc was the first to report the situation and weibo. Initial guess was that the GFW found a new target.




Later other website claimed that bitcointalk purposely block Chinese IP because
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由于中国国内的杠杆和期货业务对比特币价格造成巨大波动,严重损害了比特币的价值。现国际比特币社区bitcointalk和比特币基金会下的节点网站getaddr.bitnodes.io均已屏蔽国内大部分IP。从国内大部分地方访问 getaddr.bitnodes.io 页面已经被禁止访问。明显是管理员设置了IP禁止,在国外访问正常。
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Bitcoin's value has been greatly compromised by the margin trade and futures in Chinese exchange, now bitcointalk and getaddr.bitnodes.io are inaccessible from many places in China. It's obvious that the administrator blocked  Chinese IP. Visit from abroad is normal.



Somehow this has become the topic of the day among Chinese btcers. People blame this to the Chinese exchange that provides margin trade and futures like 796.com. Another new exchange announce yesterday that they will provide 50X margin.

A thread propose to change the Hosts file to visit bitcointalk, another thread here got response that Shanghai visit normal but many people are blocked and the Chinese subforum has become very quiet.

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September 21, 2014, 01:43:42 AM
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50X margin trade sounds nice,

if they cant reach here they can use bitcointa.lk

Its a mirror site with different people running the show

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September 21, 2014, 02:48:54 AM
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I guess maybe there is something wrong with the internet.
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September 21, 2014, 02:54:11 AM
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I don't think it is good decision. There are many people in China, who are really crazy about the bitcoin technology. It is not fair for them. Bitcoin belongs to the whole world and cant be decided by any single institution. Never mind. They will find a way to get in touch with it.

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September 21, 2014, 02:57:08 AM
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They will use proxy if they really need access it, although limiting this is against what bitcoin is supposed to be for.

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September 21, 2014, 03:52:25 AM
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Bitcointalk blocked IP's or China blocked Bitcointalk? How to know that?

I've already tried access BTCTalk with chinese proxies, and I got the site is blocked.
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September 21, 2014, 03:58:39 AM
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Does anyone find it weird that bitcointalk is resolving to different IPs? Seems like the ISPs and by extension, the government is behind it.

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September 21, 2014, 05:05:45 AM
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The IP in your first screenshot shows an IP in Azerbaijan yet BitcoinTalk is actually hosted in the Netherlands and your second screenshot shows different servers all resolving different IP's for BitcoinTalk.

This doesn't look good at all. Perhaps BitcoinTalk has been targeted by the great firewall of china. I sincerely hope this is not the case but this doesn't look good at all.

Can someone in China try connecting directly to the actual IP:
https://109.201.133.195 (ignore SSL warning)

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September 21, 2014, 07:04:29 AM
Last edit: September 21, 2014, 07:15:53 AM by theymos
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Your DNS is broken. That's not the forum's IP address. Adding the correct IP (109.201.133.195) to your hosts file is a good idea. Tor will also work.

I don't completely block huge IP ranges like that.

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now bitcointalk and getaddr.bitnodes.io are inaccessible from many places in China. It's obvious that the administrator blocked  Chinese IP. Visit from abroad is normal.

He knows that he's behind the world's largest censorship system, but yet he immediately assumes that two unrelated sites going down at the same time is a conspiracy by their operators to block Chinese users?? That's really stupid.

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September 21, 2014, 07:29:05 AM
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Are people in China still able to connect to the Bitcoin network using Bitcoin Core, MultiBit, etc.?

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September 21, 2014, 08:12:34 AM
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Rumor travels fast. Now it has become the headline of btc38, which is the major altcoin exchange.

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September 21, 2014, 10:16:31 AM
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Chinese gov are like the worse ever i swear.  We need bitcoin to succeed to put them in their place. Feel bad for the people and confused why this nation actually functions.
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September 21, 2014, 11:00:52 AM
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Are people in China still able to connect to the Bitcoin network using Bitcoin Core, MultiBit, etc.?
Bitcoin Core works fine with me.

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September 21, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
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He knows that he's behind the world's largest censorship system, but yet he immediately assumes that two unrelated sites going down at the same time is a conspiracy by their operators to block Chinese users?? That's really stupid.
nah its because if they accuse the goverment theyll get sent to labor camps for life  Cheesy
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September 21, 2014, 10:53:19 PM
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Are people in China still able to connect to the Bitcoin network using Bitcoin Core, MultiBit, etc.?

How can they stop Bitcoin Core from connecting to Bitcoin network ? If they could do, wont it defeat the whole concept of P2P ? I think, by barring a certain IP range, a P2P cant be broken...
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September 21, 2014, 11:14:41 PM
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How can they stop Bitcoin Core from connecting to Bitcoin network ? If they could do, wont it defeat the whole concept of P2P ? I think, by barring a certain IP range, a P2P cant be broken...

Bitcoin Core is pretty easy to block. I think that just blocking port 8333 would cause serious problems for Chinese users. (There are some nodes on the network that don't use port 8333, but they're rare.) Bitcoin isn't designed to be difficult to block -- that's what Tor is for. It's been possible to run Bitcoin through Tor since version 0.1 AFAIK.

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September 22, 2014, 02:58:20 AM
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Clarification and solution posted. Now people blames the GFW.

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September 22, 2014, 05:22:38 AM
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China! the day you blocked bitcointalk is also the day where the richest person in china just opened his IPO and raised billions in New York..

and he said he was influenced by the ideals of silicon valley and Forrest gump an American movie... these are the foundations for his success..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGqXkW2vMZs&feature=player_detailpage#t=260

blindly blocking innovation is no good for anybody.. bitcoin is the next generation of internet.. instead of being like a bully, look at silicon valley and learn.

That alone will save your ghost Towns and your people who live in 10 sq.foot apartments..
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September 22, 2014, 05:33:06 AM
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I had no idea that china blocked bitcoin talk... When did this happen?
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September 22, 2014, 05:41:37 AM
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The Great Firewall Wall is absurd.
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