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September 21, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
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    I've thought about this from many angles, and this has to be the basic interface because nothing else is simple enough for most people to use while also flexible enough to expand as a way to use any kind of tool by eventually using the simpler shapes and programming APIs for hooking shapes to external systems that it would be found useful on a global scale by those who lack the basic tools and would like to help build or organize them and for a variety of other things like the shapes of music wave amplitudes, shapes of scientific data, shapes of letters, words, and whole pages of text (very complicated shape but it can be slithered around like a branching arm to feel the letters if someone hooked in some kind of thinking for it to figure that out faster. Its not google or darpa or wolfram alpha or anything that far along, by design, because its a way to interact with any kind of system or data as a bendable shape and would add extra value to many existing systems in how people could get to them when needed in a way that tools can measure and act on as shapes built to bend and resist bending those ways.

    Any logic can be encoded on the surface of a near sphere simply like curved buttons, but most shapes will be more intuitive and designed for Human ways of thinking in the places we would put a collection of such tools for download. If you want a search engine for such tools, you'd have to build it from the more basic logic in available shapes or hooks to external code or systems if necessary and if you can get others to download your code, because nobody should trust anything that runs outside the system just because its in the system. Tools would have to be used to touch other tools in certain ways, or to use a special tool on them designed to ask certain kinds of questions in the form of shapes.

    If a good shape and bendable behaviors of it (when pushed on those places or places their boltzmann logic is hooked to) cant be found for something, it can of course be represented as the shape of bits or known letter shapes along the surface bumping up from a circle, which it would have to be taught how to both observe and push up those shapes from a part of its surface when that data should appear.

    The data structure of a shape is a 1d curve around a blob which can get ever smaller in each local part to grab smaller things, and larger flat or bell curve shaped sections when detail is not needed. Each of the points on the surface has a choice of 2 bits (or n bits for n dimensions later, but its still a stringlike curve there) which choose to move the surface onward from there up or down 1 pixel, and the other bit is left or right 1 pixel, which generates perfect circles and bell curves in the limit of many such back and forth moves in 2 dimensions. Shapes would normally be operated with lots of stretchyness left and smaller than necessary so there are lots of such choices at each point of where to move it and by what precise angle.

    Since it can handle angles, even before it has the mind to know what to do with complex shapes, it can be an interface for any kind of signal processing, manifolds, or virtual reality interface for your hands wrapped in this virtual material (cross sections of it, can expand to 3d or more if needed) to grab and use objects in the system, or earlier would use multitouch screens or mouse, and I hope to later hook into tech of the mind at the boltzmann statistics level and viewing itself as 2d shapes of cross sections of brainwaves or feature vectors or whatever people put into it.

    Its supposed to be a form of communication, not all the tech to do it internally but it will have a few necessary advanced pieces for basic ability to grab at the other shapes and store some data about them when learned, and to bring it back up somehow through what other shapes could access with controls on their surface. If you want a certain person in the network, the shape they are currently using could be made available if their network is set up to broadcast and could be attempted to bend their shape in certain locations designed by them or others who build shapes for them, which they may see and cause their shape to respond differently to such a push, by using the boltzmann variables as applying to the 2 bit variables per edge between points, and then their view of the system or their tools set up to watch for such a pattern could interact with the incoming call, maybe to set up a binary stream for any other system or to grab at some local shape or get a copy of it.

    First it would have to be taught how to play with squares, triangles, circles, things like that, and build up from there to bendable shapes containing boltzmann or other logic, and soon some practical systems would find representations in intuitive playdough-like tools which could be passed around the internet like text is today.

    3d printers, including a circuit printer design at opensourceecology, and quadcopters, and lots of other interesting systems are coming up and accessible to ordinary people, but theres so far no way to get them to do anything interesting or to know what interesting things are possible. Wolfram Cloud seems to be a good place to hook in some early scientific tools as he's the guy who discovered Rule110 of computing theory and builds tools to understand the world and math, if you pay for his credits, but that would be between you and him as what I'm planning here is mainly a user interface with a hole to hook in pieces of simulated minds and other tools. Just for example. I'm going for something we could use to teach artificial intelligence design and science in elementary school by direct access, and following that level of being easy to use, to understand with better tools how to operate a grid of molecule printers and build some crystals of certain thermodynamic properties to grab the unified field using a network of tools grabbing eachother from our screens down to the shape of the field, and see what it is and what can be done with it.

    Its no joke that darpa funded research of a device designed to reach into hyperplanes of spacetime, even though their results were inconclusive. They also spent a half million dollars at least on people making proposals how to build a faster than light ship. So I am not the only one who thinks we are underusing what we have, even if its just a place to shape playdough-like blobs into interesting patterns and virtual worlds for some time.

    Theres a bunch of simulated minds out there which could explore such a space of using everything as shapes, because this paradigm of representing everything as text and other complexity is too much to imagine.

    I will be taking a break from these kind of things but will get to it when having more time to do it right instead of as I have been trying to get something on screen to prove the concept. It wasnt the right way to interact with the system, but there were valuable parts for the mind and shapes to hook in later.

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September 21, 2014, 09:02:46 PM
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Also I wrote in a response to... http://www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/we-cant-beat-the-government

You only have to beat governments and other paradigms currently holding progress back when there is nothing of clear or soon demonstratable at a basic level value to the world that most powers in the world would be to greedy to decline an offer of opensource tech to the world which could soon after going up small scale make every basic tool, piece of simple data, and advanced kind of research and infrastructure eventually, literally wrapped in tools used like playdough designed to use other such tools or hook into anything external an interface defined for, and anyone who doubts this please give 1 good example of something out there now which can not be better understood visually and with some form of grabbable reshapable tool to be designed. A standard interface with ability to grab and think, not the systems itself. I say most of them dont know what their tools are capable of, and anyone who does not find some kind of artificial intelligence (statistical) interface and tool based system able to expand, even if not this one, will eventually find out that Human intelligence is the big animal on this planet and its all around waiting for a place to grab at the world, like by building a plugin of any form they like to be used on screen by anyone anywhere (and security is everyones responsibility not the internet layer's, so build your own within, if they choose to download plugins more than boltzmann and shape tools)... Hard to get started, and thats why it will also be a massively multiplayer paint and pattern based shape system uniquely interesting and open ended as far as the shapes can be trained to understand other shapes and paint our space with them. I summarize this planned user interface layer for any kind of bendable shape with any kind of reactions to bending against it, that a billion people would use any system at all that was neutral, opensource, and believed to be a kind of user interface capable of representing the advanced things and simple things around the world, and I claim in this context only that shapes are definitely as flexible as language and visual thinking and any cross section of data, and from here I point out to everyone that it is coming from many places in various forms, and whichever goes up first will be the one that breaks this global deadlock.... the not on basic tech but still a deadlock on no one organization can get access to all the things they need to do big things, because the paradigm does not motivate everyone to be a tool builder of tools that grab other tools, instead it seeks to grab all the tools for each self and their friends in case we want to steal them from you. There are many who believe we are close to a few discoveries hard to yet imagine, and many of lesser practical value like robot operating systems for what could be a big profit to many who would be freed to find more interesting things to do. I dont think people want to be the robots anymore. We can learn to use our brains in the ways of first simulated tool building just for fun, and when the tech gets good at shapes that can grab and push on other shapes like playdough in simple curves in 2d, I wouldnt be surprised if spoken and written language became the secondary method of communication, as bendable shapes of any definable behaviors and statistical learning would be a far better way to grab at what we now live in an unmanageable ocean of complexity because words and symbols arent up to the task, and because this will be understood quickly and fun to use by most of those who try the first prototype and help develop the potential of shape based tools that use and build tools.

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