Why is obama purging generals from the military?

[Rigon]

Have you been paying attention to all the changes that Obama has been making in the US Military? I mean beyond all the political grandstanding and doing stupid things like locking the chaplains out of their posts during the government shut down (for which a Catholic priest in now suing the president). It seems that Obama has been engaged in his own private ‘purge’ of generals and other leaders at the very top of the US Military.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-military-purge/

On October 12th, this story was even noticed by Dianne Sawyer of ABC News. You see, there have 9 top level military leaders and commanders fired or relieved of duty since April. Is Obama preparing things for some sort of big event? Nine top-level generals and commanders could definitely be considered a purge of sorts. Perhaps Obama is thinking about some options that the majority of Americans would be loathe to even consider? Several Pentagon Officials have been trying to warn the people to expect radical changes very soon. The Chinese are also thinking about getting out of the dollar and forming their own currency alliance. There is even the strong potential for 16 US States being shut down and handed over to the federal government due to such high levels of debt. Could martial law be coming?

There have also been reports that seem to indicate Obama has a litmus test for military officers these days. Apparently, he only wants officers who do not have trouble firing on US citizens. Several of these now retired officers have come forward and said that they think Obama is preparing for war against the US. We have also heard Obama himself talk about ‘My Military.’ Whatever you think might be happening, it is certainly clear that Obama is looking to change and move things in a different direction.

By the way, these 9 top military officers and commanders were this that Obama has fired or replaced or relieved from duty just in 2013. It does not include a rather long list of those who were also relieved of duty last year (and the year before that). Even Dianne Sawyer felt that this is bizarre and wanted to try and get to the bottom of it.

Take a look at some of the nine who have been fired or relived of duty. General Carter Hamm, US Army, served as the head of the US African Command and in charge during the Benghazzi incident. After being extremely critical of Obama (calling him a liar about reinforcements in the area), he was ‘resigned and retired’ in April. Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette, US Navy, Commander of Carrier Strike Group Three was in charge of aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean Sea on the night of September 11, 2012. He was fired and relieved of duty for ‘utterance of a racial slur.’ And there are plenty more examples, all within the year.

This is an incredibly alarming series of events. It is one of the largest and fastest purges of military commanders that has ever been recorded. These ‘purges’ even included two heads of nuclear strategic commands. This has even made veteran reporter Dianne Sawyer step up and public ask what is the next step that Obama is planning. This is something that every American should be asking themselves as we watch the evidence of what is happening.

What do YOU think? What is the reason for this purge of the military? Can the firing or relieving of duty of 9 top-level generals and admirals this quickly be considered a mere coincidence? What do you think Obama is planning? Why does he want to remake the military to HIS liking? Will the military some day be called upon to fire on US citizens?

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[arbitrage001]

The military is getting too bloated and too expensive to maintain.

If it is up to me, I will cut the military spending by half over the course of 8 years.

[Towlie]

I don't know but obviously there's got to be a massive conspiracy in this  . What does Alex Jones have to say about it?

[noviapriani]

because;  he gets to name their replacements.  There's been a buzz going around since 2012 that he's really afraid of a military coup

As a nation, we can afford bouts of economic downturns, civil strife and even some degree of political mistrust of our leaders. A nation can take definitive steps to recover these maladies. However, the one thing that America cannot tolerate is the compromising of our military, and since Obama has been president, the effectiveness of our military has been greatly compromised as witnessed by the firing of 200+ command level officers.

[Honeypot]

A coward hiding behind the rank and manipulating the laws and system for his own racial agenda. That's obama in a nut shell.

This fucker is public enemy #1.

[Honeypot]

The military is getting too bloated and too expensive to maintain.

If it is up to me, I will cut the military spending by half over the course of 8 years.

That's the excuse he gave. People were expected to buy the 'slimming down' the military line.

No one is fooled anymore. It was basically to hide the true agenda - that being obama wants to mess with the system and shape it to his liking, and his likings are strongly anti american, much of that from a racial bias. He hates the origins of america with racial attitude, and now everyone can't stand the little fool boy trying to play at being a leader at anything. As a minority, you can easily tell when he's lying or putting up a front. He thinks he can shuck and jive. No one is fooled.

He can 'fire' people. He can try all he wants to manipulate things and lie about not messing with people to everyone including in his own attitudes. No one will even lend a ear if people break into his hotel room next time.

Furthermore, his administration is slowly draining itself of real talents, if not already completely absent of any kind of competence. Obama basically throws tantrums disguised as authority or moral ground, and people are no longer taking him seriously. Foreign powers certainly do not - they know he is impotent when faced with people who couldn't give any less of a fuck about things he thinks are 'weapons' - racial moral hostage attitude, manipulation and word play on law, hiding behind the rank of oval office and trying to mess with people while thinking he's being clever. As if anyone doesn't know what he's doing.

[noviapriani]

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/130802
A Crisis of Military Leadership

The number of generals either drummed out of the service or forced into early retirement since Obama took office is growing by the month. Untruthful pretexts have been manufactured by the Obama administration to usher out many of our top military commanders. Many of these generals were among our most effective and experienced military leaders. Almost all of these generals are being replaced by men with less military experience and this fact alone leads to a less effective military.

This unprecedented parade of musical chairs, being played out against our military leaders, began when Obama demanded the resignation of General McKiernan. This marked the first time, since the time of the Korean War when General Douglas MacArthur was fired by President Truman in a disagreement over strategy, that a battlefield general was fired by a president. The strategy backfired in Korea and it backfired in Afghanistan as McKiernan was deemed to be to old school to suit Obama. He was old school to Obama because he wanted to kill the enemy while minimizing American losses. Obama wanted to adopt a policy which allowed the enemy to open fire first which, before Americans could return fire. This has surely caused the casualty rate to rise.

After he was fired, McKiernan challenged Obama’s impotent leadership by stating that “I don’t understand ever putting your men and women in harm’s way, without their having the full ability to protect themselves. That also means operating on actionable intelligence to defeat insurgents, and protect your forces.That’s how you keep your soldiers alive.” Obama apparently does not care how many soldiers get to come back home to their families.

Following McKiernan, Obama appointed Stanley McChrystal. But very soon, the new general grew weary of forcing his troops to accept fire before shooting back for fear of offending the Afghans. McChrystal later claimed that he had presented a plan to Obama for defeating the Afghan resistance, but Obama continued to promote rules of engagement which served to make the Americans a less effective fighting force. The relationship between McChrystal and Obama became strained and McChrystal was fired over a negative Rolling Stone article, written by Michael Hastings, that revealed that McChrystal had become disgusted with Obama. Petraeus replaced McChrystal who was in-turn quickly replaced by General Allen who then became entrapped in the same scandal, and the confirmation of General Dunford had to be rushed through and subsequently completed in record time. Count them, Obama has gone through four generals and is now on his fifth battlefield commander. His firing of two-four star generals is unprecedented in American History. This is what Stalin did when he assumed the dictatorship of Russia and it almost cost the Russians victory in WWII. The war in Afghanistan is lost thanks to Obama.

General Mattis, the Commander of Central Command offended several administration personnel and was fired on the spot. Admiral Gayoutte, the former commander of Carrier Task Force Three, operating in the Gulf, was fired last fall. General Hamm, the former commander of AFRICOM was fired last fall as well. Gayoutte and Hamm both tried to launch a coordinated rescue mission designed to save the life of Ambassador Stevens in Libya. Both leaders were refusing to follow a Presidential order, delivered through Leon Panetta, to stand down with regard to the Stevens affair. Both men were arrested prior to dispatching the rescue troops.

To this point, we may just have a case of gross incompetence. Yet, aren’t we supposed to fighting al-Qaeda? According to our government, did al-Qaeda plan and carry out the attacks of 9/11? Then why are we supporting al-Qaeda in Libya and Syria? Treason of stupidity?

When the leadership of the military is greatly compromised, it cannot help but to weaken the fighting effectiveness of our troops. There is more, but suffice it to say that Obama goes through senior military leaders more times than he changes his underwear.
The Air Force Crisis

Air Force combat pilots are leaving the Air Force at an alarming rate and, as such, this has constituted an emergency. The USAF is now offering bonuses that amount to several hundred thousand dollars in a desperate attempt to retain their services. The pilots cite the low pay (Obama just slashed Congressionally approved pay raises by over half), being overworked and the ability to find more lucrative employment in the private sector.

[umair127]

They don't make enough to begin with and he is slashing raises?

I've received a lot of emails about officers who believe they might need to stage a coup and take over omaba by force.  I would trust the military over omaba.  I don't believe they would keep the authority, only long enough for us to get a good replacement.  Which doesn't mean Biden.  I hope, even with the sacking of top officers, the military will end up taking charge if necessary.

[Mr.Bitty]

perhaps they could line up those folks who gave us this disaster and like Obama's wet dream,  shoot them so this doesn't happen again.

[umair127]

A coward hiding behind the rank and manipulating the laws and system for his own racial agenda. That's obama in a nut shell.

This fucker is public enemy #1.

Obama is still disallowing troops on the ground except for training Iraqis and absolutely no combat.  But the new general in charge does say that if the US is threatened, he will go back to the pres and ask again for ground troops.  I believe we are already threatened, and so is the whole damn world.  From where I sit, it looks as though Obama is doing everything he can to let ISIS win.  I know he promised no more troops in the middle east, but he promised a lot of things that he has reneged on.  Why doesn't he renege on this?

[umair127]

perhaps they could line up those folks who gave us this disaster and like Obama's wet dream,  shoot them so this doesn't happen again.

Yes!  But only in our dreams.  I do wish someone or some unit of people had the guts to usurp the presidency for a period of time, until the peoples can vote for someone new.  Turkey used to anyway, when things got bad with the terrorists, go under martial law and when the threat diminished, gave it over to the regular government.  It was what the people wanted.  They wanted martial law.  It would only work if the military commanders were trustworthy enough to give command back to civilians. Do you think that our military would do that?

[Spendulus]

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/130802
A Crisis of Military Leadership

The number of generals either drummed out of the service or forced into early retirement since Obama took office is growing.......

...you mean they had the audacity to beat him at golf?

Why those cruel and heartless bastards!

What do they think they are doing, not being properly empathetic and sensitive to the feelings of a child?  He might throw tantrums. 

I'm shocked at this, shocked! 

[Mr.Bitty]

perhaps they could line up those folks who gave us this disaster and like Obama's wet dream,  shoot them so this doesn't happen again.

Yes!  But only in our dreams.  I do wish someone or some unit of people had the guts to usurp the presidency for a period of time, until the peoples can vote for someone new.  Turkey used to anyway, when things got bad with the terrorists, go under martial law and when the threat diminished, gave it over to the regular government.  It was what the people wanted.  They wanted martial law.  It would only work if the military commanders were trustworthy enough to give command back to civilians. Do you think that our military would do that?

No, I don't think our military would ever stage a coup, unless the Constitution were put aside and habeas corpus totally suspended-----  of course Lincoln got away with it, didn't he?  I sure as hell have more respect and trust in our military than the bunch of communists who are running things now.

[sana8410]

Taken alone, it would be easy to dismiss those stories as “coincidences”.  But when you put them together with the stories of dozens of other high ranking military officers that have been purged from the U.S. military in recent years, a very disturbing pattern emerges.
The following is a list of high ranking military officers that have been dismissed over the past few years that has been circulating all over the Internet.  I think that you will agree that this list is quite stunning…


Commanding Generals fired:

    General John R. Allen-U.S. Marines Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)
    Major General Ralph Baker (2 Star)-U.S. Army Commander of the Combined Joint Task Force Horn in Africa (April 2013)
    Major General Michael Carey (2 Star)-U.S. Air Force Commander of the 20th US Air Force in charge of 9,600 people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (Oct 2013)
    Colonel James Christmas-U.S. Marines Commander 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit & Commander Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit (July 2013)
    Major General Peter Fuller-U.S. Army Commander in Afghanistan (May 2011)
    Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus-U.S. Marine Corps Regional Commander of SW and I Marine Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan (Oct 2013)
    General Carter F. Ham-U.S. Army African Command (Oct 2013)
    Lieutenant General David H. Huntoon (3 Star), Jr.-U.S. Army 58th Superintendent of the US Military Academy at West Point, NY (2013)
    Command Sergeant Major Don B Jordan-U.S. Army 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command (suspended Oct 2013)
    General James Mattis-U.S. Marines Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
    Colonel Daren Margolin-U.S. Marine in charge of Quantico’s Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
    General Stanley McChrystal-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (June 2010)
    General David D. McKiernan-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
    General David Petraeus-Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012 & U.S. Army Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR-A] (Nov 2012)
    Brigadier General Bryan Roberts-U.S. Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
    Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant-U.S. Marine Corps Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for the U.S. Pacific Command & Commander of Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
    Colonel Eric Tilley-U.S. Army Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
    Brigadier General Bryan Wampler-U.S. Army Commanding General of 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command of the 1st Theater Sustainment Command [TSC] (suspended Oct 2013)

Commanding Admirals fired:

    Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette-U.S. Navy Commander John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
    Vice Admiral Tim Giardina(3 Star, demoted to 2 Star)-U.S. Navy Deputy Commander of the US Strategic Command, Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10 (Oct 2013)

Naval Officers fired: (All in 2011)

    Captain David Geisler-U.S. Navy Commander Task Force 53 in Bahrain (Oct 2011)
    Commander Laredo Bell-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Support Activity Saratoga Springs, NY (Aug 2011)
    Lieutenant Commander Kurt Boenisch-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
    Commander Nathan Borchers-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Stout (Mar 2011)
    Commander Robert Brown-U.S. Navy Commander Beachmaster Unit 2 Fort Story, VA (Aug 2011)
    Commander Andrew Crowe-Executive Officer Navy Region Center Singapore (Apr 2011)
    Captain Robert Gamberg-Executive Officer carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower (Jun 2011)
    Captain Rex Guinn-U.S. Navy Commander Navy Legal Service office Japan (Feb 2011)
    Commander Kevin Harms- U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 137 aboard the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln (Mar 2011)
    Lieutenant Commander Martin Holguin-U.S. Navy Commander mine countermeasures Fearless (Oct 2011)
    Captain Owen Honors-U.S. Navy Commander aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (Jan 2011)
    Captain Donald Hornbeck-U.S. Navy Commander Destroyer Squadron 1 San Diego (Apr 2011)
    Rear Admiral Ron Horton-U.S. Navy Commander Logistics Group, Western Pacific (Mar 2011)
    Commander Etta Jones-U.S. Navy Commander amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
    Commander Ralph Jones-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Green Bay (Jul 2011)
    Commander Jonathan Jackson-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 134, deployed aboard carrier Carl Vinson (Dec 2011)
    Captain Eric Merrill-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Emory S. Land (Jul 2011)
    Captain William Mosk-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Station Rota, U.S. Navy Commander Naval Activities Spain (Apr 2011)
    Commander Timothy Murphy-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 129 at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, WA (Apr 2011)
    Commander Joseph Nosse-U.S. Navy Commander ballistic-missile submarine Kentucky (Oct 2011)
    Commander Mark Olson-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer The Sullivans FL (Sep 2011)
    Commander John Pethel-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock New York (Dec 2011)
    Commander Karl Pugh-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 141 Whidbey Island, WA (Jul 2011)
    Commander Jason Strength-U.S. Navy Commander of Navy Recruiting District Nashville, TN (Jul 2011)
    Captain Greg Thomas-U.S. Navy Commander Norfolk Naval Shipyard (May 2011)
    Commander Mike Varney-U.S. Navy Commander attack submarine Connecticut (Jun 2011)
    Commander Jay Wylie-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Momsen (Apr 2011)

Naval Officers fired: (All in 2012):

    Commander Alan C. Aber-Executive Officer Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 71 (July 2012)
    Commander Derick Armstrong- U.S. Navy Commander missile destroyer USS The Sullivans (May 2012)
    Commander Martin Arriola- U.S. Navy Commander destroyer USS Porter (Aug 2012)
    Captain Antonio Cardoso- U.S. Navy Commander Training Support Center San Diego (Sep 2012)
    Captain James CoBell- U.S. Navy Commander Oceana Naval Air Station’s Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic (Sep 2012)
    Captain Joseph E. Darlak- U.S. Navy Commander frigate USS Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
    Captain Daniel Dusek-U.S. Navy Commander USS Bonhomme
    Commander David Faught-Executive Officer destroyer Chung-Hoon (Sep 2012)
    Commander Franklin Fernandez- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 24 (Aug 2012)
    Commander Ray Hartman- U.S. Navy Commander Amphibious dock-landing ship Fort McHenry (Nov 2012)
    Commander Shelly Hakspiel-Executive Officer Navy Drug Screening Lab San Diego (May 2012)
    Commander Jon Haydel- U.S. Navy Commander USS San Diego (Mar 2012)
    Commander Diego Hernandez- U.S. Navy Commander ballistic-missile submarine USS Wyoming (Feb 2012)
    Commander Lee Hoey- U.S. Navy Commander Drug Screening Laboratory, San Diego (May 2012)
    Commander Ivan Jimenez-Executive Officer frigate Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
    Commander Dennis Klein- U.S. Navy Commander submarine USS Columbia (May 2012)
    Captain Chuck Litchfield- U.S. Navy Commander assault ship USS Essex (Jun 2012)
    Captain Marcia Kim Lyons- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Health Clinic New England (Apr 2012)
    Captain Robert Marin- U.S. Navy Commander cruiser USS Cowpens (Feb 2012)
    Captain Sean McDonell- U.S. Navy Commander Seabee reserve unit Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 14 FL (Nov 2012)
    Commander Corrine Parker- U.S. Navy Commander Fleet Logistics Support Squadron 1 (Apr 2012)
    Captain Liza Raimondo- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Health Clinic Patuxent River, MD (Jun 2012)
    Captain Jeffrey Riedel- Program manager, Littoral Combat Ship program (Jan 2012)
    Commander Sara Santoski- U.S. Navy Commander Helicopter Mine Countermeasures Squadron 15 (Sep 2012)
    Commander Kyle G. Strudthoff-Executive Officer Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 25 (Sep 2012)
    Commander Sheryl Tannahill- U.S. Navy Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Nashville, TN (Sep 2012)
    Commander Michael Ward- U.S. Navy Commander submarine USS Pittsburgh (Aug 2012)
    Captain Michael Wiegand- U.S. Navy Commander Southwest Regional Maintenance Center (Nov 2012)
    Captain Ted Williams- U.S. Navy Commander amphibious command ship Mount Whitney (Nov 2012)
    Commander Jeffrey Wissel- U.S. Navy Commander of Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron 1 (Feb 2012)

Naval Officers fired: (All in 2013):

    Lieutenant Commander Lauren Allen-Executive Officer submarine Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
    Reserve Captain Jay Bowman-U.S. Navy Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Fort Dix, NJ (Mar 2013)
    Captain William Cogar-U.S. Navy Commander hospital ship Mercy’s medical treatment facility (Sept 2013)
    Commander Steve Fuller-Executive Officer frigate Kauffman (Mar 2013)
    Captain Shawn Hendricks-Program Manager for naval enterprise IT networks (June 2013)
    Captain David Hunter-U.S. Navy Commander of Maritime Expeditionary Security Squadron 12 & Coastal Riverine Group 2 (Feb 2013)
    Captain Eric Johnson-U.S. Navy Chief of Military Entrance Processing Command at Great Lakes Naval Training Center, IL (2013)
    Captain Devon Jones-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Air Facility El Centro, CA (July 2013)
    Captain Kevin Knoop-U.S. Navy Commander hospital ship Comfort’s medical treatment facility (Aug 2013)
    Lieutenant Commander Jack O’Neill-U.S. Navy Commander Operational Support Center Rock Island, IL (Mar 2013)
    Commander Allen Maestas-Executive Officer Beachmaster Unit 1 (May 2013)
    Commander Luis Molina-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Pasadena (Jan 2013)
    Commander James Pickens-Executive Officer frigate Gary (Feb 2013)
    Lieutenant Commander Mark Rice-U.S. Navy Commander Mine Countermeasures ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
    Commander Michael Runkle-U.S. Navy Commander of Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit 2 (May 2013)
    Commander Jason Stapleton-Executive Office Patrol Squadron 4 in Hawaii (Mar 2013)
    Commander Nathan Sukols-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
    Lieutenant Daniel Tyler-Executive Officer Mine Countermeasures ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
    Commander Edward White-U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 106 (Aug 2013)
    Captain Jeffrey Winter-U.S. Navy Commander of Carrier Air Wing 17 (Sept 2013)
    Commander Thomas Winter-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Montpelier (Jan 2013)
    Commander Corey Wofford- U.S. Navy Commander frigate Kauffman (Feb 2013)

[Rigon]

Why?  Why all those top commanders?  To weaken our strength?  To let the radical muslim world consume us?

[sana8410]

Why?  Why all those top commanders?  To weaken our strength?  To let the radical muslim world consume us?

I've read articles that have talked about how some of the cuts are due to sequestration....meeting the bottom line meets cutting those who are paid more.

[Rigon]

Why?  Why all those top commanders?  To weaken our strength?  To let the radical muslim world consume us?

I've read articles that have talked about how some of the cuts are due to sequestration....meeting the bottom line meets cutting those who are paid more.

I'm pretty damned sure that there are enough pencil pushers that could be eliminated to make ends meet.

You do realize that the Iraqi army laid done their weapons and went home because they didn't have any combat officers-- just a bunch of political appointees from Malaiki that the military didn't trust in a fire fight.  We are headed to the same place.