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September 22, 2014, 06:15:10 PM
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Hi,

I live in Scarborough, ON, Canada. The fall and winter months are usually pretty cool/cold.

I wonder if anyone in Canada has moved their bitcoin/litecoin mining rigs to their balcony's for the folder months and what they encased them in?

I have a KNC Neptune miner which I want to put outside. My balcony faces west so I can sometimes get some pretty strong winds. I was thinking of using a rubbermaid container and drilling some holes; possible will need to build a down ward scoop on the intake side so that the snow and or rain doesn't get sucked into the container.

Does anyone have any pictures of stuff they have built they could share?

Thanks,
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September 22, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
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Why not keep them inside during the colder months and use them to heat your room/home?
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September 22, 2014, 07:27:19 PM
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Why not keep them inside during the colder months and use them to heat your room/home?

Because I live in 700 SQ condo and having them running keeps me up night and interferes with my TV and video game playing. Putting it outside would not along allow me to run the cubes at 500Mhz but it would allow me to keep them super cold. Smiley
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September 22, 2014, 08:07:29 PM
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Why not keep them inside during the colder months and use them to heat your room/home?

Never use the hot air for space heating.
This air is not good for breathing due to harmful chemicals from pcb and parts.
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September 23, 2014, 01:23:07 AM
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Why not keep them inside during the colder months and use them to heat your room/home?

Never use the hot air for space heating.
This air is not good for breathing due to harmful chemicals from pcb and parts.

How bad would the hot air be? I think there's a lot of people out there who has their gear indoor (like me).
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September 23, 2014, 01:31:11 AM
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I moved my Antminer S1 outside at the beginning of July, once I realized ot was throwing off too much heat.  I have had it running outside this entire time on a covered porch, no rain is able to get near it.  I am in Cornwall, Ontario.
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September 23, 2014, 05:25:16 AM
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I would build a temporary removable screen balcony, you can make one whole sub wall that runs the length of your balcony and just cover it with screens Smiley put the miners as close to the main wall as possible and watch the first storm to see if any of the dampness or water hits the minersif it does put plywood on the top 2 to 3 feet of your subwall to stop the elements from getting to the miners Smiley

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September 23, 2014, 07:10:56 AM
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Hi,

I live in Scarborough, ON, Canada. The fall and winter months are usually pretty cool/cold.

I wonder if anyone in Canada has moved their bitcoin/litecoin mining rigs to their balcony's for the folder months and what they encased them in?

I have a KNC Neptune miner which I want to put outside. My balcony faces west so I can sometimes get some pretty strong winds. I was thinking of using a rubbermaid container and drilling some holes; possible will need to build a down ward scoop on the intake side so that the snow and or rain doesn't get sucked into the container.

Does anyone have any pictures of stuff they have built they could share?

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Its dangerous putting in balcony, raining would kill it.

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September 23, 2014, 09:42:55 AM
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Hi,

I live in Scarborough, ON, Canada. The fall and winter months are usually pretty cool/cold.

I wonder if anyone in Canada has moved their bitcoin/litecoin mining rigs to their balcony's for the folder months and what they encased them in?

I have a KNC Neptune miner which I want to put outside. My balcony faces west so I can sometimes get some pretty strong winds. I was thinking of using a rubbermaid container and drilling some holes; possible will need to build a down ward scoop on the intake side so that the snow and or rain doesn't get sucked into the container.

Does anyone have any pictures of stuff they have built they could share?

Thanks,


Its dangerous putting in balcony, raining would kill it.

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September 23, 2014, 10:21:31 AM
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A container would definitely be a good idea just to keep stuff out like leaves maybe and such.

Also regarding the conditions in the winter, generally for electronics there is a minimum-maximum temperature and humidity range where they can be operated. I haven't seen anything mentioned about this at KNC website. I personally would send them an email asking whether or not running a miner outside in the winter could do any damage to it.

I would be worried about really cold weather for very low temperatures and maybe some heavy rains due to humidity issues. Wouldn't hurt to ask them as well, they should have the specs about these.
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September 23, 2014, 11:22:53 AM
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A container would definitely be a good idea just to keep stuff out like leaves maybe and such.

Also regarding the conditions in the winter, generally for electronics there is a minimum-maximum temperature and humidity range where they can be operated. I haven't seen anything mentioned about this at KNC website. I personally would send them an email asking whether or not running a miner outside in the winter could do any damage to it.

I would be worried about really cold weather for very low temperatures and maybe some heavy rains due to humidity issues. Wouldn't hurt to ask them as well, they should have the specs about these.

Back when I had my Avalon Mini I used to put it outside in the winter months on it's own, if it was going to snow or rain I would put it inside the door slightly opened.

So I was thinking of taking several containers and using them as parts to make one, I was thinking of putting a scoop on the front facing open down and maybe using some fans to pull the air in, this would certainly stop any rain or snow from getting in unless we get blizzard conditions. And any holes I'd make I would cover with screen mesh material to prevent anything from getting. I live 9 floors up (in a 40 floor condo) leaves don't make up this high.

For the back I was thinking of making the power/network connection port higher off the ground. And putting slots or holes in the back or the other option would be to put them in the top and put another scoop on facing the back. The problem I have is figuring out the best air flow from front to back or out the top.

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September 23, 2014, 01:09:27 PM
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I once though of that idea but I am too afraid to put in balcony, mainly afraid of thief..
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September 23, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
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I once though of that idea but I am too afraid to put in balcony, mainly afraid of thief..

You must live close to the ground. It's very hard to steal stuff when you are high off the ground. Smiley
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September 23, 2014, 06:12:38 PM
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Back when I had my Avalon Mini I used to put it outside in the winter months on it's own, if it was going to snow or rain I would put it inside the door slightly opened.

So I was thinking of taking several containers and using them as parts to make one, I was thinking of putting a scoop on the front facing open down and maybe using some fans to pull the air in, this would certainly stop any rain or snow from getting in unless we get blizzard conditions. And any holes I'd make I would cover with screen mesh material to prevent anything from getting. I live 9 floors up (in a 40 floor condo) leaves don't make up this high.

For the back I was thinking of making the power/network connection port higher off the ground. And putting slots or holes in the back or the other option would be to put them in the top and put another scoop on facing the back. The problem I have is figuring out the best air flow from front to back or out the top.

Thanks,

I think if you leave sufficient ventilation gap on the containers, an additional fan may not be necessary. Maybe you could even have a "half-sheltered" setup where you only cover one side (facing outwards) and the top of the miners? If the wind/rain facing side and top is covered, it may be sufficient.

If you want to enclose them however, the direction of air flow could be based on how you position the miners. If the miner is blowing out the warm air to the sides, I wouldn't go for top ventilation (also I'm not sure if your balcony has a roof) I would try blowing the air towards my balcony door, taking in air from the opposing side. Maybe north-south alignment of the miner.
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September 23, 2014, 08:33:44 PM
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I would advise against leaving your ASIC miners on your balcony because moisture does not fare well for ASIC chips and PCB components. It would cut down the life span of your mining equipment.

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September 23, 2014, 08:42:07 PM
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I would advise against leaving your ASIC miners on your balcony because moisture does not fare well for ASIC chips and PCB components. It would cut down the life span of your mining equipment.

Is there any hard evidence this or is it just a theory?

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September 23, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
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I would advise against leaving your ASIC miners on your balcony because moisture does not fare well for ASIC chips and PCB components. It would cut down the life span of your mining equipment.
Is there any hard evidence this or is it just a theory?
High humidity can increase rate of corrosion (esp. if your area tends to have rain with high acidity). This probably isn't much of an issue since mining equipment isn't expected to last more than 2-4 years, anyway. Relative humidity >95% is likely to cause a short circuit IF your electronics are off and you turn it on in high-humidity environment. If it's hot inside the case (and it's likely much more hot), relative humidity will be significantly different inside the case than outside since hot air can carry more water vapor. I don't mean to say it's safe, though... I ain't never been much of a science-man, myself.
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September 24, 2014, 07:39:16 AM
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OP, I don't have the time to explain everything, but so long as you are confident your operation won't go down, the only thing that may have a problem with temperature delta is the PSU.  The heat generated from the miners will be more than enough to keep condensation off, though... So I'd say go for it, just have a spare Psu in case...  But I have all of my miners outsideand I've never had a problem, two of them reside on my balcony, in fact.     

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September 24, 2014, 11:27:09 AM
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OP, I don't have the time to explain everything, but so long as you are confident your operation won't go down, the only thing that may have a problem with temperature delta is the PSU.  The heat generated from the miners will be more than enough to keep condensation off, though... So I'd say go for it, just have a spare Psu in case...  But I have all of my miners outsideand I've never had a problem, two of them reside on my balcony, in fact.     
I've had a similar experience. I kept a few in garage last Winter with a door open and had no problems. The garage is slightly warmer than outside, while area around mining rigs is warm, and of course inside the cases is quite hot, so as long as humidity isn't 100% and we just recovered from a long power outage, chance of critical failure is pretty damn low. I suppose a power outage with a large operation and a low-R ceiling/roof with certain other conditions could actually form rain clouds in a building (or maybe at least fog)... that'd be really cool. It'd ruin a lot of stuff, but I'd be tickled to see it raining inside the garage.

Err - anyway - I'm not sure I'd like the idea of wind going directly into the mining rig enclosure, though.
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September 24, 2014, 02:30:23 PM
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Why not keep them inside during the colder months and use them to heat your room/home?

Never use the hot air for space heating.
This air is not good for breathing due to harmful chemicals from pcb and parts.
If you have a lot of gear in you can get an air purification machine and run it indoors.














 

 

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