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September 25, 2014, 07:43:25 PM
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I Kings 7:23 And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

II Chron 4:2 Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

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September 25, 2014, 07:47:53 PM
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I Kings 7:23 And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

II Chron 4:2 Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
Ok, so it does not tell us if they were measuring from inside or outside the brim (which would have a thickness).  Do you know anywhere where it might?

If the brim has some thickness (and would it not?), why do you assume that these folks (which engineered such interesting feats such as tunnel under Hezekiah) would get something this simple wrong?

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September 25, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
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I see, so the inside of the brim was the measurement of the diameter but the outside of said brim was the measurement of the circumference?

Why the change?  And why was this difference exactly equal to pi?

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September 27, 2014, 02:24:00 PM
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The change was to introduce pi once it was invented.. just to make everything appear to fit..

As for molten sea from brim to brim, molten is hot and melted whatever.. I'll use lava as an example, being molten rock.

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September 27, 2014, 02:41:28 PM
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I see, so the inside of the brim was the measurement of the diameter but the outside of said brim was the measurement of the circumference?

Why the change?  And why was this difference exactly equal to pi?
Why not?  Why do people in my wife's country do things one way, and us another?

Why do women do things one way (often) and men another.

Not knowing does not mean having to put the worse spin on this - especially one that makes no sense (given again that these folks - Jews and their neighbors - engineered some pretty cool stuff).

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September 27, 2014, 02:44:20 PM
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I believe the New Testament has a clearer depiction of history than the old testament...
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September 27, 2014, 02:51:11 PM
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I see, so the inside of the brim was the measurement of the diameter but the outside of said brim was the measurement of the circumference?

Why the change?  And why was this difference exactly equal to pi?
Why not?  Why do people in my wife's country do things one way, and us another?

Why do women do things one way (often) and men another.

Not knowing does not mean having to put the worse spin on this - especially one that makes no sense (given again that these folks - Jews and their neighbors - engineered some pretty cool stuff).
Does lying on behalf of god make you feel powerful?

I have asked questions concerning the sun stopping in the sky.  You reply god can do anything.

What sorts of things would god have to do to achieve this?

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September 27, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
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I see, so the inside of the brim was the measurement of the diameter but the outside of said brim was the measurement of the circumference?

Why the change?  And why was this difference exactly equal to pi?
Why not?  Why do people in my wife's country do things one way, and us another?

Why do women do things one way (often) and men another.

Not knowing does not mean having to put the worse spin on this - especially one that makes no sense (given again that these folks - Jews and their neighbors - engineered some pretty cool stuff).
Does lying on behalf of god make you feel powerful?

I have asked questions concerning the sun stopping in the sky.  You reply god can do anything.

What sorts of things would god have to do to achieve this?

Sit a short distance from a big hill, with a hill in the backround behind it to the right. As the sun set's, and sit's in the kappa valley (where the image of both hills appear as one where they meet) it does so for an hour against all scientific knowledge. Nothing more than an optical illusion of light Wink

We could be more elaborate, and point out that on the 22nd of december, the sun is at it's lowest point, and stays there for three days, then starts to rise again on christmas day, in effect, the sun 'stops' just below the horizon, every year, before it rises again for next summer. In effect, Jesus is reborn, welcome to the TRUTH.

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September 27, 2014, 03:17:38 PM
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of course not

the bible is a book which tries to teach people on how to act

not to represent things that really happened
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September 27, 2014, 03:22:50 PM
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The earth spins and rotates around the sun.  The bible rather suggests that the sun moved across the sky daily which we know does not happen. (unless you are saying that god changed these matters since the events described?)  Now the spinning of the earth entails certain physical phenomena.  The sudden stop of the rotation would mean the contents of the earth would keep moving.  This would have to be taken care of by god.  Especially water in the seas and lakes.  (This came after the flood).

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September 27, 2014, 03:23:40 PM
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of course not

the bible is a book which tries to teach people on how to act

not to represent things that really happened

I can get with the morality, but when will the likes of BADecker realise, that continually spoutin shite from the bible is moraly wrong and offensive?

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September 27, 2014, 04:08:07 PM
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It's obviously not strictly true, part allegorical, part moral treatise part history
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September 27, 2014, 04:12:03 PM
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The earth spins and rotates around the sun.  The bible rather suggests that the sun moved across the sky daily which we know does not happen. (unless you are saying that god changed these matters since the events described?)  Now the spinning of the earth entails certain physical phenomena.  The sudden stop of the rotation would mean the contents of the earth would keep moving.  This would have to be taken care of by god.  Especially water in the seas and lakes.  (This came after the flood).
Actually the Earth rotates on it's axis, and orbits the Sun in an elliptical orbit.Please, Rigon!  You need not further confuse Zolace. He has enough on his plate as it is!

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September 27, 2014, 04:49:50 PM
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10 Reasons to Believe In The Bible

  • Its Honesty
    Its Preservation
    Its Claims For Itself
    Its Miracles
    Its Unity
    Its Historical And Geographical Accuracy
    Its Endorsement By Christ
    Its Prophetic Accuracy
    Its Survival
    Its Power To Change Lives
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September 28, 2014, 12:14:32 AM
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of course not

the bible is a book which tries to teach people on how to act

not to represent things that really happened

I can get with the morality, but when will the likes of BADecker realise, that continually spoutin shite from the bible is moraly wrong and offensive?

don't really know

we're just going to have to accept that a lot of people aren't smart enough to realise the bible isn't a history book

it's a disability

btw I think this is more for politcs&society

the OP should move it there
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September 28, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
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The earth spins and rotates around the sun.  The bible rather suggests that the sun moved across the sky daily which we know does not happen. (unless you are saying that god changed these matters since the events described?)  Now the spinning of the earth entails certain physical phenomena.  The sudden stop of the rotation would mean the contents of the earth would keep moving.  This would have to be taken care of by god.  Especially water in the seas and lakes.  (This came after the flood).
Actually the Earth rotates on it's axis, and orbits the Sun in an elliptical orbit.Please, Rigon!  You need not further confuse Zolace. He has enough on his plate as it is!

I plead guilty to using the term spin when I should have used "rotates on its own axis - with degrees of wobble)"

I feel I might give something to Zolace that agrees with his odd beliefs.

   http://chronicle.com/free/v55/i31/31b00601.htm

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September 28, 2014, 05:21:23 PM
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I see, so the inside of the brim was the measurement of the diameter but the outside of said brim was the measurement of the circumference?

Why the change?  And why was this difference exactly equal to pi?
Why not?  Why do people in my wife's country do things one way, and us another?

Why do women do things one way (often) and men another.

Not knowing does not mean having to put the worse spin on this - especially one that makes no sense (given again that these folks - Jews and their neighbors - engineered some pretty cool stuff).
Does lying on behalf of god make you feel powerful?

I have asked questions concerning the sun stopping in the sky.  You reply god can do anything.

What sorts of things would god have to do to achieve this?
what part of All Powerful, all wise Creator do you not understand.

Your objection is like that of a kid who cannot understand how an adult does what he does.  And that to explain to the kid, it would be beyond his understanding.

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September 28, 2014, 05:52:09 PM
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There are things many of us adults cannot understand, that some adults can do.  Do you understand how to put together a Cray computer?

And, we are all dust before Him who created the World by his Word.  It really is a silly objection, if one thinks about it.

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These types of questions...


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September 28, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
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Do you believe  Dr. Seuss' "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" is historically accurate? Does it matter to you if it's not?
I fixed your typos for you. You're welcome. Wink

Oh, and no, it doesn't matter to me. I still like the story.  Cheesy

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