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September 24, 2014, 10:32:59 PM |
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thats a good question...
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September 24, 2014, 10:40:59 PM |
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I get that everyone wants to promote their coins, but can we not fly the whole front page of each coin with intense graphics? Put it in writing. ill read it if its written, but I hate scrolling through huge pages of graphics. Its hard to read and digest... If you make a good argument ill look at your coin, but it comes off as spam when you throw up the entire white page of your coin onto the thread.
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September 24, 2014, 10:42:24 PM |
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The most important thing about alts is the devs. Great to see stealth getting its recognition it deserves.
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Cyberlight
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September 24, 2014, 10:42:37 PM |
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Aerocoin.
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September 24, 2014, 10:45:55 PM |
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There is no doubt XST coin.
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September 24, 2014, 10:50:09 PM |
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AeroCoin has some of the best hidden potential, i like that its not well known yet...lol Trying to load up on coins.
my second vote would of been shadowcoin another coin with alot of potential.
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September 24, 2014, 10:53:15 PM |
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I get that everyone wants to promote their coins, but can we not fly the whole front page of each coin with intense graphics? Put it in writing. ill read it if its written, but I hate scrolling through huge pages of graphics. Its hard to read and digest... If you make a good argument ill look at your coin, but it comes off as spam when you throw up the entire white page of your coin onto the thread.
I kinda like it to be honest.. shows how much effort some coins and their communities put into it.
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September 24, 2014, 10:56:25 PM |
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I get that everyone wants to promote their coins, but can we not fly the whole front page of each coin with intense graphics? Put it in writing. ill read it if its written, but I hate scrolling through huge pages of graphics. Its hard to read and digest... If you make a good argument ill look at your coin, but it comes off as spam when you throw up the entire white page of your coin onto the thread.
I kinda like it to be honest.. shows how much effort some coins and their communities put into it. yea youre probably right. it shows effort for the coin, its just hard to read compared to text.
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September 24, 2014, 11:01:35 PM |
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I get that everyone wants to promote their coins, but can we not fly the whole front page of each coin with intense graphics? Put it in writing. ill read it if its written, but I hate scrolling through huge pages of graphics. Its hard to read and digest... If you make a good argument ill look at your coin, but it comes off as spam when you throw up the entire white page of your coin onto the thread.
I kinda like it to be honest.. shows how much effort some coins and their communities put into it. yea youre probably right. it shows effort for the coin, its just hard to read compared to text. Yeah.. additional text details would probably be a benefit
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September 24, 2014, 11:13:09 PM Last edit: September 24, 2014, 11:31:53 PM by Coolstoryteller |
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ShadowCash zk-snarks is one of the biggest advancements in cryptography at the moment, especially in relation to anonymity and blockchain compression. Adoption of zk-snarks will finally put the anon debate to rest once and for all. It's even acknowledged as superior by Maurice P, one of the founders of cryptonote. "[Maurice P]Zerocoin, Zerocash. This is the most advanced technology, I must admit. Yes, the quote above [from the white paper] is from the analysis of the previous version of the protocol. To my knowledge, its not 288, but 384 bytes, but anyway this is good news [the latest trimming of sizes]. They used a brand new technique [sic] called SNARK, which has certain downsides: for example, large initial database of public parameters required to create a signature (more than 1 GB) and significant time required to create a transaction (more than a minute). Finally, they're using a young crypto, which I've mentioned to be an arguable idea: https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19#p55" -Maurice P. "Now, notice that since we are still pushing information through a function (our random oracle function), and not using a zero-knowledge system, our system is still not fully zero-knowledge anonymous." http://monero.cc/downloads/whitepaper_review.pdfShadow already has a working Simplified Payment Verification (SPV) system in place with the latest ShadowLite release, that addresses some of the concerns about the signature; In addition, the proof sizes are even smaller than the ones quoted by Maurice. ShadowCash's approach is quite different to Zerocoin/ZeroCash. All in all the coming weeks will be very interesting for the anon space with Shadow. No doubt the only real investment right now in the anon space is Shadow. Investing in anything else in the anon space right now is pointless, as Shadow will wrapping up the anon debate. List of 1sts:
Open sourced dual key stealth addresses (ShadowSend) Android wallet for Proof of Stake (ShadowGo) iOS wallet for Proof of Stake (ShadowGo) Simplified Payment Verification (SPV) system for Proof of Stake (ShadowLite) Modular HTML5 wallet Anonymous contact discovery for Encrypted Messaging System (ShadowChat) The list grows and it's clear that the only coin on that list actually progressing crypto forward by original innovation in ShadowCash. Invest in hype or invest in actual development the choice is yours. The only real PoD is Proof of Development and Shadow eclipses every other coin on the list in that department.
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September 24, 2014, 11:29:15 PM |
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ShadowCash zk-snarks is one of the biggest advancements in cryptography at the moment, especially in relation to anonymity and blockchain compression. Adoption of zk-snarks will finally put the anon debate to rest once and for all. It's even acknowledged as superior by Maurice P, one of the founders of cryptonote. "[Maurice P]Zerocoin, Zerocash. This is the most advanced technology, I must admit. Yes, the quote above [from the white paper] is from the analysis of the previous version of the protocol. To my knowledge, its not 288, but 384 bytes, but anyway this is good news [the latest trimming of sizes]. They used a brand new technique [sic] called SNARK, which has certain downsides: for example, large initial database of public parameters required to create a signature (more than 1 GB) and significant time required to create a transaction (more than a minute). Finally, they're using a young crypto, which I've mentioned to be an arguable idea: https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19#p55" -Maurice P. "Now, notice that since we are still pushing information through a function (our random oracle function), and not using a zero-knowledge system, our system is still not fully zero-knowledge anonymous." http://monero.cc/downloads/whitepaper_review.pdfShadow already has a working Simplified Payment Verification (SPV) system in place with the latest ShadowLite release, that addresses some of the concerns about the signature; In addition, the proof sizes are even smaller than the ones quoted by Maurice. ShadowCash's approach is quite different to Zerocoin/ZeroCash. All in all the coming weeks will be very interesting for the anon space with Shadow. No doubt the only real investment right now in the anon space is Shadow. Investing in anything else in the anon space right now is pointless, as Shadow will wrapping up the anon debate. List of 1sts:
Open sourced dual key stealth addresses (ShadowSend) Android wallet for Proof of Stake iOS wallet for Proof of Stake Simplified Payment System (SPV) for Proof of Stake (ShadowLite) Modular HTML5 wallet Anonymous contact Discovery for Encrypted Messaging System (ShadowChat) The list grows and it's clear that the only coin on that list actually progressing crypto forward by original innovation in ShadowCash. Invest in hype or invest in actual development the choice is yours. The only real PoD is Proof of Development and Shadow eclipses every other coin on the list in that department. +1
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September 24, 2014, 11:31:47 PM |
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Coolstoryteller,
I dont disagree with you... Shadowcash might be the best inovation in crypto. But Aerocoin isnt competing with anon innovation. Its my belief that AeroME is going to end up as a platform for coins like shadow or stealth or dark or monero. "Aerocoins" could turn into "aeroshares" representing the platform...So you may have the best coin, but why wouldnt you want something that represents the best of the alts as a platform? The best coin and many others could be used on AeroMe. Its is a service that all alt coins will need. Theres a lot of companies for Bitcoin that have merchant service capabilities, and are making millions. AeroMe can be that platform for Alts (with many other features).
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September 24, 2014, 11:34:59 PM |
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Coolstoryteller,
I dont disagree with you... Shadowcash might be the best inovation in crypto. But Aerocoin isnt competing with anon innovation. Its my belief that AeroME is going to end up as a platform for coins like shadow or stealth or dark or monero. "Aerocoins" could turn into "aeroshares" representing the platform...So you may have the best coin, but why wouldnt you want something that represents the best of the alts as a platform? The best coin and many others could be used on AeroMe. Its is a service that all alt coins will need. Theres a lot of companies for Bitcoin that have merchant service capabilities, and are making millions. AeroMe can be that platform for Alts (with many other features).
Bitcoin tried and tested services wont embrace alts one day?
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September 24, 2014, 11:35:46 PM |
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Coolstoryteller,
I dont disagree with you... Shadowcash might be the best inovation in crypto. But Aerocoin isnt competing with anon innovation. Its my belief that AeroME is going to end up as a platform for coins like shadow or stealth or dark or monero. "Aerocoins" could turn into "aeroshares" representing the platform...So you may have the best coin, but why wouldnt you want something that represents the best of the alts as a platform? The best coin and many others could be used on AeroMe. Its is a service that all alt coins will need. Theres a lot of companies for Bitcoin that have merchant service capabilities, and are making millions. AeroMe can be that platform for Alts (with many other features).
Bitcoin tried and tested services wont embrace alts one day? AeroMe drops in october. And if you read the white paper youll see that the platform will provide services that im not seeing a lot of in even bitcoin (payroll service, smartloans, decentralized exchange, auctions). Even if they do compete, theres room for a lot of companies. Coinbase, Bitpay, circle... theyre all raising millions in funding, and currently making money. I can buy a coin, and if the price goes up...then i make money. But with these companies, Theyre making a lot of money regardless of what bitcoin costs.
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September 24, 2014, 11:43:53 PM |
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Im sure youre thinking that Aerocoin is a risk, and it may not work out as ive said... but what a fucking reward if it becomes the bitpay or coinbase of Alts.... Youre looking at a massive market, and a giant profit with this coin trading around 5k. These other coins are just as much a risk. youre counting on continuing to have your coin lead in tech inovation, the competition is massive, and growing. How risky is Aerocoin in comparison?
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September 24, 2014, 11:45:32 PM Last edit: September 25, 2014, 03:01:14 AM by Coolstoryteller |
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Coolstoryteller,
I dont disagree with you... Shadowcash might be the best inovation in crypto. But Aerocoin isnt competing with anon innovation. Its my belief that AeroME is going to end up as a platform for coins like shadow or stealth or dark or monero. "Aerocoins" could turn into "aeroshares" representing the platform...So you may have the best coin, but why wouldnt you want something that represents the best of the alts as a platform? The best coin and many others could be used on AeroMe. Its is a service that all alt coins will need. Theres a lot of companies for Bitcoin that have merchant service capabilities, and are making millions. AeroMe can be that platform for Alts (with many other features).
Hi Mitch, I like the concept of AeroME. However, I believe Shadow's modular HTML wallet will introduce a new paradigm into the crypto ecosystem where developers can design and develop zero knowledge apps in HTML5 that benefit from Shadow's privacy technology i.e. apps, games, markets, exchanges etc.. When the API is documented we could see something like a ShadowStore similar to GooglePlay, Chrome Web Store or Apple's App store. Community developed applications focused on privacy where devs could possibly sell their apps for Shadow or introduce in-app purchases using Shadow. We'll end up seeing core Shadow apps like ShadowChat and developer apps like a casino game. Developers apps would benefit from Shadow core functionality like ShadowChat's upcoming video, voice and file support. I'm not opposed to Aero, it looks like a great project and I wish it success in the future. I just believe a modular development platform decentralizes development away from the core team and opens up new opportunities for entrepreneurs and developers.
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September 24, 2014, 11:47:41 PM |
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Coolstoryteller,
I dont disagree with you... Shadowcash might be the best inovation in crypto. But Aerocoin isnt competing with anon innovation. Its my belief that AeroME is going to end up as a platform for coins like shadow or stealth or dark or monero. "Aerocoins" could turn into "aeroshares" representing the platform...So you may have the best coin, but why wouldnt you want something that represents the best of the alts as a platform? The best coin and many others could be used on AeroMe. Its is a service that all alt coins will need. Theres a lot of companies for Bitcoin that have merchant service capabilities, and are making millions. AeroMe can be that platform for Alts (with many other features).
Hi Mitch, I like the concept of AeroME. However, I believe Shadow's Modular HTML wallet will introduce a new paradigm into the crypto ecosystem where developers can design and develop zero knowledge apps in HTML5 that benefit from Shadow's privacy technology i.e. apps, games, markets, exchanges etc.. When the API is documented we could see something like a ShadowStore similar to GooglePlay, Chrome Web Store or Apple's App store. Community developed applications focused on privacy where devs could possibly sell their apps for Shadow or introduce in-app purchases using Shadow. We'll end up seeing core Shadow apps like ShadowChat and developer apps like a casino game. Developers apps would benefit from Shadow core functionality like ShadowChat's upcoming video, voice and file support. I'm not opposed to Aero, it looks like a great project and I wish it success in the future. I just believe a modular development platform decentralizes development away from the core team and opens up new opportunities for entrepreneurs and developers. Both are great investments imho..
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September 24, 2014, 11:51:21 PM |
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Coolstoryteller,
I dont disagree with you... Shadowcash might be the best inovation in crypto. But Aerocoin isnt competing with anon innovation. Its my belief that AeroME is going to end up as a platform for coins like shadow or stealth or dark or monero. "Aerocoins" could turn into "aeroshares" representing the platform...So you may have the best coin, but why wouldnt you want something that represents the best of the alts as a platform? The best coin and many others could be used on AeroMe. Its is a service that all alt coins will need. Theres a lot of companies for Bitcoin that have merchant service capabilities, and are making millions. AeroMe can be that platform for Alts (with many other features).
Hi Mitch, I like the concept of AeroME. However, I believe Shadow's Modular HTML wallet will introduce a new paradigm into the crypto ecosystem where developers can design and develop zero knowledge apps in HTML5 that benefit from Shadow's privacy technology i.e. apps, games, markets, exchanges etc.. When the API is documented we could see something like a ShadowStore similar to GooglePlay, Chrome Web Store or Apple's App store. Community developed applications focused on privacy where devs could possibly sell their apps for Shadow or introduce in-app purchases using Shadow. We'll end up seeing core Shadow apps like ShadowChat and developer apps like a casino game. Developers apps would benefit from Shadow core functionality like ShadowChat's upcoming video, voice and file support. I'm not opposed to Aero, it looks like a great project and I wish it success in the future. I just believe a modular development platform decentralizes development away from the core team and opens up new opportunities for entrepreneurs and developers. Both are great investments imho.. +1
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