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September 25, 2014, 12:53:45 AM
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The production of too many useful things results in too many useless people.

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Social progress can be measured by the social position of the female sex.

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The rich will do anything for the poor but get off their backs.

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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.

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The only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain.


~Karl Marx - Famous atheist

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September 25, 2014, 12:59:33 AM
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The production of too many useful things results in too many useless people.

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Social progress can be measured by the social position of the female sex.

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The rich will do anything for the poor but get off their backs.

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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.

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The only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain.


~Karl Marx - Famous atheist

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Typical religious BS attack to atheism
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September 25, 2014, 01:00:19 AM
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The production of too many useful things results in too many useless people.

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Social progress can be measured by the social position of the female sex.

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The rich will do anything for the poor but get off their backs.

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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.

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The only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain.


~Karl Marx - Famous atheist

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Typical religious BS attack to atheism

Just to provide some balance.  Wink You mad?

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September 25, 2014, 01:24:54 AM
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This has nothing to do with atheism...

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September 25, 2014, 01:29:11 AM
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This has nothing to do with atheism...

Did I took things out of context? oh  Roll Eyes

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September 25, 2014, 01:35:14 AM
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This has nothing to do with atheism...

Did I took things out of context? oh  Roll Eyes

I don't know, did you?

But you clearly mislabeled your topic...

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September 25, 2014, 01:37:48 AM
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This has nothing to do with atheism...

Did I took things out of context? oh  Roll Eyes

I don't know, did you?

But you clearly mislabeled your topic...

But atheist people aren't truth by definition? Because that's how they are arguing...
So Karl Marx should be truth. Oh great atheist leader!

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September 25, 2014, 01:42:46 AM
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This has nothing to do with atheism...

Did I took things out of context? oh  Roll Eyes

I don't know, did you?

But you clearly mislabeled your topic...

But atheist people aren't truth by definition? Because that's how they are arguing...
So Karl Marx should be truth. Oh great atheist leader!

What the fuck are you talking about?

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September 25, 2014, 01:44:31 AM
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Like we should believe anything written in religious books  Roll Eyes

If you attack atheism at least tell something that's worth it, right now you,re just throwing sentences in a post trying to make it looks bad.

Had a bad day???

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September 25, 2014, 01:56:04 AM
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Like we should believe anything written in religious books  Roll Eyes

If you attack atheism at least tell something that's worth it, right now you,re just throwing sentences in a post trying to make it looks bad.

Had a bad day???

No no, I was just trying to re-balance some debate.

So let's get some food for though. Do you people think that Hitler and Karl Marx that was both atheists could have let their beliefs system influence their political decisions? I think it could be very hard to dissociate both. Maybe atheism in some form can be dangerous to humankind? Ex USSR was a nation wide atheism country. Still, we all know how they turned out.

I don't know

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September 25, 2014, 01:59:34 AM
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with all the holy wars that happened in the past and happening today, you can't really put atheism to that level. The number of crimes commited in the name of god (no matter which one), exceding by far the number of crime commited by atheist (not in the name of it).

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September 25, 2014, 02:03:48 AM
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Like we should believe anything written in religious books  Roll Eyes

If you attack atheism at least tell something that's worth it, right now you,re just throwing sentences in a post trying to make it looks bad.

Had a bad day???

No no, I was just trying to re-balance some debate.

So let's get some food for though. Do you people think that Hitler and Karl Marx that was both atheists could have let their beliefs system influence their political decisions? I think it could be very hard to dissociate both. Maybe atheism in some form can be dangerous to humankind? Ex USSR was a nation wide atheism country. Still, we all know how they turned out.

I don't know


Dude seriously?!

Atheism has no content, it is not a belief system, it is not a doctrine, it isn't even a thing!

BTW, Hitler was Roman Catholic.

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September 25, 2014, 02:05:04 AM
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with all the holy wars that happened in the past and happening today, you can't really put atheism to that level. The number of crimes commited in the name of god (no matter which one), exceding by far the number of crime commited by atheist (not in the name of it).

I think you should review your history. Crusade wars didn't count for 1% of all historic wars. Plus, it is well known that religion was only used as a front because the real motive was to find Salomon's gold hidden somewhere in Jerusalem. It is the same for today. Religion is always a front to hide true reason focused on money/power. But let religion debate aside. I want this topic to focus on atheism.

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September 25, 2014, 02:08:52 AM
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Like we should believe anything written in religious books  Roll Eyes

If you attack atheism at least tell something that's worth it, right now you,re just throwing sentences in a post trying to make it looks bad.

Had a bad day???

No no, I was just trying to re-balance some debate.

So let's get some food for though. Do you people think that Hitler and Karl Marx that was both atheists could have let their beliefs system influence their political decisions? I think it could be very hard to dissociate both. Maybe atheism in some form can be dangerous to humankind? Ex USSR was a nation wide atheism country. Still, we all know how they turned out.

I don't know


Dude seriously?!

Atheism has no content, it is not a belief system, it is not a doctrine, it isn't even a thing!

BTW, Hitler was Roman Catholic.

Which he was born not his adulthood belief system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#Religion_under_Hitler

You think atheism is not a belief system? Let me tell you that it is, like any other. It means you believe in nothing. It is still beliefs as it can't be proven.
Atheism is more profound that you might think.

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September 25, 2014, 02:11:18 AM
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Karl Marx is the reason you have a two day weekend, and the reason why your children won't be working at factories at age 12

Why don't you prove that these quotes are, indeed, "BS"

"Social progress can be measured by the social position of the female sex."

Look at Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and red state conservative America.

Republicans love treating women like shit, and for the past decade have been the most backwards, least progressive political party.

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September 25, 2014, 02:12:02 AM
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with all the holy wars that happened in the past and happening today, you can't really put atheism to that level. The number of crimes commited in the name of god (no matter which one), exceding by far the number of crime commited by atheist (not in the name of it).

I think you should review your history. Crusade wars didn't count for 1% of all historic wars. Plus, it is well known that religion was only used as a front because the real motive was to find Salomon's gold hidden somewhere in Jerusalem. It is the same for today. Religion is always a front to hide true reason focused on money/power. But let religion debate aside. I want this topic to focus on atheism.

No wars were created in the name of atheism but in the name of god yes.

And you can't start a thread on atheism and hope no one will talk about religion. If you start by bashing atheism, you don't want to discuss you want people approving your point, which shows that its worthless.

No christians were massively killed by jews.
Christians didn't killed native american because they didn't believe in the same god as them
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yep we need to focus on atheism because it's bad

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September 25, 2014, 02:24:57 AM
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Which he was born not his adulthood belief system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#Religion_under_Hitler

You think atheism is not a belief system? Let me tell you that it is, like any other. It means you believe in nothing. It is still beliefs as it can't be proven.
Atheism is more profound that you might think.

There's no content in not believing in bigfoot, in unicorns, in fairies, it is not a doctrine not believing in these things the same way there's no content in not believing in gods, same thing.

What you seem to be referring there is called Nihilism.

Here are a few quotes from Mein Kampf:

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night, drunk and brutal, but always parted from his last cent, such scenes often occur that God
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that a large part of the people moved blindly through the manifestations of decay showed only
that the gods had willed Austria's destruction.

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The struggle of the year 1914 was not forced on the masses- no, by the living God-it was desired by the whole people.

Well, just read the book.

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September 25, 2014, 02:28:46 AM
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No wars were created in the name of atheism but in the name of god yes.

True but atheist countries have shown they can easily start wars anyway. So saying stopping religion will stop wars isn't quite correct.

And you can't start a thread on atheism and hope no one will talk about religion. If you start by bashing atheism, you don't want to discuss you want people approving your point, which shows that its worthless.

I'm not stopping you for criticizing religions on other threads. This one is for atheism.

No christians were massively killed by jews.
Christians didn't killed native american because they didn't believe in the same god as them

Those are real example of religious act of violence (I wouldn't call the first one war though) but I can bring much more historical wars that were also not religious.

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I'm not focusing on atheism because it's bad.
Criticism is good for everything no?  I think philosopher Plato would agree with me on this one.

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September 25, 2014, 02:39:13 AM
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Karl Marx is the reason you have a two day weekend, and the reason why your children won't be working at factories at age 12

Why don't you prove that these quotes are, indeed, "BS"

"Social progress can be measured by the social position of the female sex."

Look at Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and red state conservative America.

Republicans love treating women like shit, and for the past decade have been the most backwards, least progressive political party.
I heard all that liberal buzz about a "Republican War on Women" was all made up.    Probably to distract people from real issues.   What do you think?

Oh, and Karl Marx and factories and child labor?  I kind of think automation had a lot to do with that.

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September 25, 2014, 03:21:33 AM
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~Karl Marx - Famous atheist

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Um... Yes? Do you disagree with this or something?
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