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November 13, 2014, 07:36:07 AM |
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There are also people that do cash in the mail on Localbitcoins, but they either use escrow (which requires total trust with the person doing the escrow) or you have to send the cash first and hope they send you the bitcoins later. This is wrong; the sellers on localbitcoins use the site escrow, so you only need to trust the exchange escrow and arbitration system. Wrong again. If you are sending cash in the mail then you need to trust the person you are buying from as there will be very little evidence for either party to give to the LBC escrow service so they can essentially rule either way I am sure you can find a reputable seller who can make the exchange easy on you. However, you should not send large amounts of cash through the mail... First, you should trade sensibly by choosing reputable exchangers. Second, if the seller lies and you protest, then basically the exchange support cannot rule against you. Third, for cash in mail it is highly suggested that you require video evidence of the pick up of the package, opening of package, counting of the money, and validating the legitimacy of the notes. How will somebody fake the pickup of a package of cash at USPS? If you also make a coinvincing video then support cannot rule against you. Ask any reputable cash by mail seller for more tips. Someone could mail you an empty envelope or something You won't know it's empty until after its delivered The usps tracking number will show its been delivered Very old scam was common on eBay in the early days The topic is about buying btc with cash. Anyway, If you are the seller and you take some video footage of the pick-up and show that you received the box empty then support will rule in your favor unless there is video footage of comparable proof from the counterparty.
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November 13, 2014, 07:46:21 AM |
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So open the envelope carefully, take out the cash, seal it again and start the camera rolling Make video of opening empty envelope
Claim you been scammed Only do business with escrow, insurance or in person at a police station etc , there's too many ways to be robbed with other options
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November 13, 2014, 08:00:21 AM |
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There are also people that do cash in the mail on Localbitcoins, but they either use escrow (which requires total trust with the person doing the escrow) or you have to send the cash first and hope they send you the bitcoins later. This is wrong; the sellers on localbitcoins use the site escrow, so you only need to trust the exchange escrow and arbitration system. Wrong again. If you are sending cash in the mail then you need to trust the person you are buying from as there will be very little evidence for either party to give to the LBC escrow service so they can essentially rule either way I am sure you can find a reputable seller who can make the exchange easy on you. However, you should not send large amounts of cash through the mail... First, you should trade sensibly by choosing reputable exchangers. Second, if the seller lies and you protest, then basically the exchange support cannot rule against you. Third, for cash in mail it is highly suggested that you require video evidence of the pick up of the package, opening of package, counting of the money, and validating the legitimacy of the notes. How will somebody fake the pickup of a package of cash at USPS? If you also make a coinvincing video then support cannot rule against you. Ask any reputable cash by mail seller for more tips. The exchange/escrow can very well rule against you if you protest. It would be very possible for you to send an empty envelope (as suggested above) and it would be very possible for the seller to claim the envelope was empty when it was in fact not.
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November 13, 2014, 09:04:24 AM Last edit: November 13, 2014, 09:16:07 AM by bl4kjaguar |
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The exchange/escrow can very well rule against you if you protest. It happened to you? And what was the evidence like on both sides? In my experience if the evidence is of equal weight then it stays in dispute. It would be very possible for you to send an empty envelope (as suggested above) and it would be very possible for the seller to claim the envelope was empty when it was in fact not.
For less hassle, you can pick a reputable seller, like a pro trader, but it is not required since you only need to be responsible. Demand video from seller (before you send anything) and require seller to include footage of all aspects of the delivery and inspection (for seller's protection). Take video footage of your-self sealing cash and handing package to USPS clerk; you can use this to resolve dispute in your favor if seller does not produce video proof. What you negotiate in a trade before you mark payment complete is a verbal contract that becomes part of the terms of the trade and seller is bound thereby.it is highly suggested that you require nonstop video footage evidence of 1) the pick up of the package from USPS clerk, 2) opening of package, 3) counting of the money, and 4) validating the legitimacy of the notes, optionally 5) any reference number that you included with your package or proof that the seller was at a USPS facility and picked up the package from a real clerk. Make sure that the seller picks this up at the post office and links you to that video footage as part of the trade; if seller fails then you get the escrow. I hope this helps!
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November 13, 2014, 09:19:06 AM |
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Here's a magic trick for you, seal an empty envelope and write the receiver name on it, place another envelope on top, turn on the camera and video yourself putting the money in the envelope, writing the address and giving the bottom envelope to usps and get a mailing receipt
Now you have video evidence that you paid when you haven't because the envelope usps got was empty
We could argue all day but there is a million ways to scam from both sides
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bl4kjaguar
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November 13, 2014, 09:22:32 AM |
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Here's a magic trick for you, seal an empty envelope and write the receiver name on it, place another envelope on top, turn on the camera and video yourself putting the money in the envelope, writing the address and giving the bottom envelope to usps and get a mailing receipt
Now you have video evidence that you paid when you haven't because the envelope usps got was empty
We could argue all day but there is a million ways to scam from both sides That's not correct; when seller gets it then his video footage will show that you scammed him. That is even assuming that this can be done coinvincingly... Any questions?
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November 13, 2014, 09:26:10 AM |
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I have a question
My mail gets delivered to my home I don't get it at the usps office I have opportunity to tamper with the mail after I receive it just as much as the sender had to tamper with it before he sent it
Can you really not see how a scam is waiting to happen from 1 party?
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November 13, 2014, 11:26:52 AM |
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I have a question
My mail gets delivered to my home I don't get it at the usps office I have opportunity to tamper with the mail after I receive it just as much as the sender had to tamper with it before he sent it
Can you really not see how a scam is waiting to happen from 1 party?
Totally agree. Sending money in an envelope is dumb.
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November 13, 2014, 11:50:07 AM |
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I would like to buy Bitcoin with cash, but I don't know anyone irl, who has Bitcoin and could sell me some. Bitinstant would let you buy it for cash through Walmart/CVS/other stores cash deposit, but it doesn't exist anymore. And Bitcoin price on eBay is just ridiculous.
Any remittances services (WU or MG) via a trusted trader will do it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649248.0
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bl4kjaguar
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November 14, 2014, 12:32:01 AM |
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I have a question
My mail gets delivered to my home I don't get it at the usps office I have opportunity to tamper with the mail after I receive it just as much as the sender had to tamper with it before he sent it
Can you really not see how a scam is waiting to happen from 1 party?
Totally agree. Sending money in an envelope is dumb. Can you see how signature confirmation and an appropriate demand for the correct video footage would remedy this? You can do safe deals if you want to, it is your responsibility. If you act responsibly, the exchange will rule in your favor.
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November 14, 2014, 12:49:16 AM |
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I have a question
My mail gets delivered to my home I don't get it at the usps office I have opportunity to tamper with the mail after I receive it just as much as the sender had to tamper with it before he sent it
Can you really not see how a scam is waiting to happen from 1 party?
Totally agree. Sending money in an envelope is dumb. Can you see how signature confirmation and an appropriate demand for the correct video footage would remedy this? You can do safe deals if you want to, it is your responsibility. If you act responsibly, the exchange will rule in your favor. who would listen to a scammer with a a negative trust rating of -12 advising people to post cash lol why are we even having this conversation ?? you should repay the people you robbed and shut up at least until then
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November 14, 2014, 12:12:10 PM |
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I have a question
My mail gets delivered to my home I don't get it at the usps office I have opportunity to tamper with the mail after I receive it just as much as the sender had to tamper with it before he sent it
Can you really not see how a scam is waiting to happen from 1 party?
Totally agree. Sending money in an envelope is dumb. Can you see how signature confirmation and an appropriate demand for the correct video footage would remedy this? You can do safe deals if you want to, it is your responsibility. If you act responsibly, the exchange will rule in your favor. who would listen to a scammer with a a negative trust rating of -12 advising people to post cash lol why are we even having this conversation ?? you should repay the people you robbed and shut up at least until then Your rank Sir is a Sr. Troll
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November 14, 2014, 12:14:35 PM |
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LocalBitcoins.com is a marketplace for trading bitcoins locally for cash or online payments of your choice.
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November 14, 2014, 12:50:50 PM |
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LocalBitcoins.com is a marketplace for trading bitcoins locally for cash or online payments of your choice.
LBC is full of scammers that abuse its escrow service. Be careful.
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