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September 28, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
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Initially, what DuckDuckGo claims to do, sounds great. Ie. the search engine that does not track you.

To the best of my understanding, this is an american company though, and all american companies are subject to pressure from any 3-letter agency above them in rank, think the FBI, CIA, NSA etc...

It seems like that DuckDuckGo is completely unsafe. If they were serious about personal privacy, they wouldn't have based themselves in the US. If some govt. thugs come to their offices and basically say, install these black boxes in your server farms, or you'll be considered a threat to national security, do you really think they would not bend over backwards? Of course they would.

Perhaps this would be some food for thought?
http://www.alexanderhanff.com/duckduckgone

Is it even possible a search engine company can exist in the US without violating user privacy en masse? I don't think so. In fact, I would not at all be surprised if DuckDuckGo is a NSA funded company. And if they really really is serious about the privacy of the users, a big question mark is why at all they chose to incorporate in America.

Small companies might go under the radar, but once you become an interesting target, or big enough - which DuckDuckGo probably is at this point, there will be intereference, backroom deals and surveilance and breach of customers privacy. Regarding the link above, it seems like they already lied about their cookie policy, which is already a red sign.

From a deceptive intel agency, what would be better than launching a search engine that claims to respect your privacy, what a great idea to push to the masses, while actually being the completely opposite. While people become more sceptical of google, why not lure them into an alternative which they think is safe in regards to privacy, but really is not..

For anyone trying to launch anything at all that claims to protect customers privacy, they should not base themselves out of the US. Afaik, there's laws that basically could be used to hold you indefinitely, if you're considered a threat to national security, and I would think that the officials could dub you such a threat if you were uncoperative.

So for anyone being serious about personal privacy, do not incorporate in the US, or do not expect anyone to believe your claims when you're US based. The only way to actually uphold your promises about customer privacy if you're US based is if you're willing to spend the rest of your life locked down behind bars. This means giving up the great life you currently have. I don't think many people are willing to do this, then I think more CEO's just accepts the black boxes in their server rooms as a necessary evil.

Another option could of course be to just shut down the complete operations if you start being hassled. But if you do that, what was the point in starting the enterprise to begin with, and why not incorporate somewhere where such a scenario would be less likely?

Thoughts?

PS: While I do applaud the initiative of DuckDuckGo, you cannot believe in unicorns and think you'll never be targeted or harmed. If they're not compromzed yet and there's no intrusive surveilance going on, it's only a matter of time before it does happen.
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September 28, 2014, 10:38:47 PM
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DuckDuckGo DOES seem to offer sites that Google and Bing miss. If you want better privacy, you could browse with TOR (the Onion Router). Tor is configured to use DuckDuckGo as its main search engine.

What about Startpage?

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September 28, 2014, 10:43:17 PM
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what does he want?  drugs?  cause i got a site for that.  silkroad.com

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September 28, 2014, 10:51:36 PM
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what does he want?  drugs?  cause i got a site for that.  silkroad.com

Haha - no drugs is something I don't need. I was more interested in discussing the privacy concerns in regards to DuckDuckGo. Of course there are options for more privacy, like TOR.
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December 03, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
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Yeah, but I don't actually use it. Their logo looks cool.

I still use Google

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December 03, 2014, 04:48:14 PM
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I would like to use them more. Trouble is google's search results are far superior. Maybe that will change over time

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December 03, 2014, 04:53:54 PM
Last edit: December 03, 2014, 05:32:32 PM by BiTJack
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Same thing i have used it before heard they offer far more privacy than google but google search results are far more accurate.
I use google and bing mostly but whenever i wanna search something else i fire up TOR works as best.
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December 03, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
Last edit: December 03, 2014, 05:24:07 PM by alani123
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Why not just use TOR as an anonymizer if you don't trust a web search engine tracking your searches? Search engines are used by so many individuals around the globe. I believe it would be resource intensive and meaningless for them to use this data for anything else than propriatery reasons like targeted advertising. Which isn't really all that harmfull. If you don't like ads after all, you can virtually force a universal opt out from tracking by installing ad blocking and tracker management software like adblock and ghostery.

Unless of course you're being prosecuted... You shouldn't trust anything or anyone with personal information if something you're doing might be illegal. If you're interested, here's the standard procedure Google claims to be following in the course of a criminal investigation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeKKHxcJfh0

Edit: What the hell is wrong with the link you posted? IP tracking? This joke is geting old.

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December 03, 2014, 05:20:57 PM
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i don't use duckduckgo,most people prefer Google or bing .if you want to browse anonymously use vpn.
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December 03, 2014, 07:15:39 PM
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I don't mind duckduckgo.

I also use startpage, privateLee, and metaGer.

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December 03, 2014, 10:32:01 PM
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No, the results are terrible.
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December 04, 2014, 11:11:05 AM
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duckduckgo was created by the NSA.. duh ...
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December 04, 2014, 12:48:39 PM
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Wouldn't trust any search engine, normally use Startpage but I still have to use google when I'm searching for images etc

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December 04, 2014, 05:54:58 PM
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I wouldn't trust it with my information anymore than I would trust Google.
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December 04, 2014, 06:07:30 PM
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I think DuckDuckGo is good search engine, if you are concerning privacy - there is another search engine ixquick.com - but I think privacy over Internet is not existing in fact.
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December 05, 2014, 01:50:25 AM
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duckduckgo was created by the NSA.. duh ...

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December 06, 2014, 06:28:38 AM
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I've tried using other search engines and TOR but they all suck, IMO. They're too slow and give inferior search results. So, I'm stuck with using evil Google.  Angry

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December 07, 2014, 11:09:27 PM
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I prefer Startpage, but I use DDG here and there.
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December 07, 2014, 11:23:07 PM
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i don't use duckduckgo,most people prefer Google or bing .if you want to browse anonymously use vpn.

startpage is more anonymous but for some reason i cant find much compared to google.
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