[SCAM] BT user zolace

[KWH]

timz, can you explain this feedback left on my account?

I guess you have to ask zolace, not me.

I have sent zolace a PM to refute the charge. From that video, zolace claims he sent you the wrong address 35 minutes after the fact.
Please post your video here.

[KWH]

zolace  has logged on since I sent the PM. I will take it he isn't interested in refuting the accusation. In light of the video sent, I am tentative removing the negative until other verification is completed.

[Vod]

I sent zolace a PM asking when he would be repaying.  In this video, Zolace said it would take until Sep 21.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwr0uWMpK-k

timz - you should consider giving KWH or I access to your account, so we can prove those PM's exist and the video wasn't edited. 

[timz]

timz - you should consider giving KWH or I access to your account, so we can prove those PM's exist and the video wasn't edited. 

Do you know the easy way to edit such videos? Ok, I can give the access to my PMs for you, not a problem.

[noviapriani]

so video is true?    I removed my negative due to the proof you provided vod.  Since Vod confirmed it.  I guess there is a new way to combat scamming. 

[ForgottenPassword]

I've found out something interesting though I haven't looked into it too carefully. Checking both Zolace and latinna's profiles, I noticed both have set the same timezone on their account.

Not only that, there is a somewhat similar posting time activity for both users, see below screenshot, top is zolace and bottom is latinna - a clear peak can be seen around 11:00 to 18:00 UTC for both users. On top of that, the most popular board of both users is the Politics & Society board, with both off-topic and economics being popular too.

Quite a coincidence is it not? 

[noviapriani]

That dont prove anything as I checked activity is updating constantly, I even matched up with a few people as well.  Anyway Tim sorry I left u negative but I chat with that user and even bought cards from him and never had issues

[ForgottenPassword]

That dont prove anything as I checked activity is updating constantly, I even matched up with a few people as well.  Anyway Tim sorry I left u negative but I chat with that user and even bought cards from him and never had issues

Of course on its own it doesn't prove anything, but when the two users are also providing the same bitcoin address and posting in similar types of threads with similar writing style and at similar times and are both in the same timezone it does raise some questions.

I'm not accusing them of being sockpuppets, but I wouldn't be so surprised if they were...

[Fortify]

I also find it curious that sparkleboy left timz negative feedback, could this be another sockpuppet of zolace? Again, the posting times fit the profile of the above two accounts and post in mostly the same forum sub sections. Got to wonder if zolace has been buying up accounts to try and pull scams.

[timz]

I've received PM from zolace.

IF you work things out and call off the ops, then we can work something out and I can get u the funds back but if they neg me then u lost it for good, then later on ill just buy an alt account.  you should have tried to work it out with me in the beginning, I told you not to call me a scammer and you did that on day one.  so now how it proceeds is your choice, get this account negged then honestly I dont think ill pay you.  If you tell them we will work it out from here then I can get your funds back in a few weeks from now or the cards.

It is a evidence that zolace a scammer who buys accounts and cheats people.
So zolace, there is only one way to restore your reputation - immediately refund and make apology to community. It is not a big sum for me, and I will happy to stop scammer until other people suffered.

Seems also zolace has several accounts: latinna, umair127 and probably noviapriani. He sent me PM by mistake from umair127 instead of zolace and replied "Never mind ..." in 30 sec from zolace account.

[ForgottenPassword]

Seems also zolace has several accounts: latinna, umair127 and probably noviapriani. He sent me PM by mistake from umair127 instead of zolace and replied "Never mind ..." in 30 sec from zolace account.

They all fit the same profile too, hmm.....

[noviapriani]

Seems also zolace has several accounts: latinna, umair127 and probably noviapriani. He sent me PM by mistake from umair127 instead of zolace and replied "Never mind ..." in 30 sec from zolace account.

They all fit the same profile too, hmm.....

If Im a  possible zolace then so is KHW who was against you as well? right?  This is a big community to start finger pointing the fact is you need hard core proof to make all these accusations.    I understand you wanna ruin this guy but damn you have to blame others as well?

[ForgottenPassword]

If Im a  possible zolace then so is KHW who was against you as well? right?  This is a big community to start finger pointing the fact is you need hard core proof to make all these accusations.    I understand you wanna ruin this guy but damn you have to blame others as well?

I never made any accusations, care to quote where I did? I just pointed out those accounts all have similar posting times, writing style and the same timezone set in the profile. Do you agree?

KWH does not have a similar writing style, he has a different timezone set and posts at different times, but I'm sure there are probably other accounts here who fit it that are not sockpuppets. All I'm saying is there are similarities and it wouldn't surprise me if they were sockpuppets given each account is in some way connected to this accusation.

I honestly don't want to ruin anyone, I'm just pointing out what I see, I'll let others be the judge.

[noviapriani]

If Im a  possible zolace then so is KHW who was against you as well? right?  This is a big community to start finger pointing the fact is you need hard core proof to make all these accusations.    I understand you wanna ruin this guy but damn you have to blame others as well?

I never made any accusations, care to quote where I did? I just pointed out those accounts all have similar posting times, writing style and the same timezone set in the profile. Do you agree?

KWH does not have a similar writing style, he has a different timezone set and posts at different times, but I'm sure there are probably other accounts here who fit it that are not sockpuppets. All I'm saying is there are similarities and it wouldn't surprise me if they were sockpuppets given each account is in some way connected to this accusation.

I honestly don't want to ruin anyone, I'm just pointing out what I see, I'll let others be the judge.

I was referencing to timz, not you but now that you posted the same thing he should have posted I can point that your a sock puppet account since you been so focoused posting here the last few minutes, again this to show that assumptions dont mean anything.  like I said earlier I debate with this guy and done business with him.  so yeah I or others that had done business with him can all be sock puppets as well.  This is the point I am trying to make out.  

[timz]

I'm sorry noviapriani if I'm wrong.
I can explain why I think noviapriani affiliated with zolace.

First, they have the same timezone, similar interests and timeframe activity:



They both posted not only in the same popular topics, but also in exotic, like this one, and their posts are very similar.

Second. noviapriani and zolace started talk about photoshop BEFORE I've put evidence in this topic or elsewhere:



The point is they posted this before any pics from me. They expected PMs screenshots and they were ready to blame me in photoshop. They didn't expect video!

So I have some questions to noviapriani.
You are from India, right?

I bought from zolace before and never had any issues, this is not the first time I seen false accusation against him.  The last user photoshop the message.  Let me see if I can find that thread.

Did you find this thread? Let us see, please. I hope it was not your fantasy to cover zolace.

Anyway Tim sorry I left u negative but I chat with that user and even bought cards from him and never had issues

I can't find your conversation with zolace in the thread. So I guess you contacted via PM? We know you can make even fake ID, not only screenshot in photoshop. So could you please make a short screencast video showing your conversation with zolace about cards you've purchased? And prove your payment?
In the video you must go to PM from another page (this thread for example), and we must see the address bitcointalk.org in the browser.

I hope I'm wrong and I would happy to apologize.

[noviapriani]

Its ok I understand the situation man, I been there and done that, that like I said I do post responses as I am very active on these forums.  I do tend to back people I think I know.  I would have backed up Vod if you had accused him.  I can take screen shots of other users who post on the political forums and have same similar stats for each category. as well and like I said I bought cards from him.  I bought two and if I can find the invoices he sent me for them, then I can pm you that info as well.  As for now im staying away from you man cause is like your on that Vendetta on who turned on you, even from the beginning you did it to KHW cause he left you a negative and so did others including me.   lol for now on im going to mind my own business.  Good luck with getting your money back.  

FYI I said I have no certs lol, difference buddy.

ok found the link where the guy had a bounty on him,  nor did i back him up here. Case closed now leave me alone and attack the one responsible. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652533.msg7316193#msg7316193

[Vod]

Well, Zolace sent me a PM back...   

Vod I told him to give me time to pay for the mistake I did and he didnt he outright called me a scammer, the truth is when he did that I got pissed and decided the btc I make I wont give him back.  I copied my btc address and gave him the wrong one, you can neg me all you want, but I can just buy another senior account or he can get his btc back slowly.  If you checked  he wasnnt willing to work with me.  I was going to get him the cards out of my pocket.  I can sell the account and recover some of the funds. or just pay him from the campaign

Zolace, being pissed off at someone is not a legit reason for not paying your debts. 

I urge you to repay him as soon as you can, and I for one will remove my negative trust.

[Fortify]

Well, Zolace sent me a PM back...  

Vod I told him to give me time to pay for the mistake I did and he didnt he outright called me a scammer, the truth is when he did that I got pissed and decided the btc I make I wont give him back.  I copied my btc address and gave him the wrong one, you can neg me all you want, but I can just buy another senior account or he can get his btc back slowly.  If you checked  he wasnnt willing to work with me.  I was going to get him the cards out of my pocket.  I can sell the account and recover some of the funds. or just pay him from the campaign

Zolace, being pissed off at someone is not a legit reason for not paying your debts.  

I urge you to repay him as soon as you can, and I for one will remove my negative trust.

Wow that is low, it's like he tries to justify the scam every other sentence. Zolace, here's a tip, the money doesn't come out of your pocket if it was stolen by you in the first place. I expect he'll try to sell those sockpuppet accounts now that they have been compromised here.

[Tomatocage]

What?? Zolace reveals himself as a bottom feeding douche? I'm SHOCKED!

[hilariousandco]

So let me get this straight. Zolace gave someone the wrong address for payment and he's now refusing to refund the buyer?

Seems also zolace has several accounts: latinna, umair127 and probably noviapriani. He sent me PM by mistake from umair127 instead of zolace and replied "Never mind ..." in 30 sec from zolace account.

Interesting. It's quite obvious just from mere observation that noviapriani, umair127, sana8410, Rigon and more recently
Mr Bitty all belong to the same person and I guess it now makes sense that zolace is the guy behind them all.

Edit: Confirmed alts:

Zolace        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154943
Rigon         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119419
umair127   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=78972
noviapriani https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=141222
vevo           https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=319158    
BBQcopter   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=317173
Peanutcoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=315754
hackjack     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=319125
sparkleboy  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=319153
bitcointurn   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=319129
gheckobrothers  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=319174
latinna        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=319145
furiousjack  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=319173
Mr.Bitty       https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232439

Zolace got greedy. No idea why he would try scam for such a relatively small amount when he must've been making some serious coin chatting away to himself.

Also, called it earlier:

When you eliminate a source of knowledge…You become an idiot…People behave the same today as they behaved than, strangely every things the same…Actually one of the best arguments against evolution is the fact that we haven't changed…Still full of greed, envy, all of the vices…Behaviors have remain the same.

My road to belief led to the point that god did not exist.  If god doesn't exist, nothing matters.  Loving, striving, doing the right thing are all purposeless.  There is not enough in any one of them to keep going.  Also, if god doesn't exist, how did everything come to be?  Whatever rationale, god had to have come up with it.  Either evolution, the big bang, no matter what, someone had to have designed it.

Otherwise, why bother.  Let it all hang out.  Anything goes.  You only live once.

What does either of these have to do with what characterizes an atheist? Not to mention they're both pretty naive reasons for belief. Also, it always makes me laugh to see you two 'debating' when you're obviously the same person .