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So let me get this straight. Zolace gave someone the wrong address for payment and he's now refusing to refund the buyer? Seems also zolace has several accounts: latinna, umair127 and probably noviapriani. He sent me PM by mistake from umair127 instead of zolace and replied "Never mind ..." in 30 sec from zolace account. Interesting. It's quite obvious just from mere observation that noviapriani, umair127, sana8410, Rigon and more recently Mr Bitty all belong to the same person and I guess it now makes sense that zolace is the guy behind them all. Edit: Confirmed alts: Zolace got greedy. No idea why he would try scam for such a relatively small amount when he must've been making some serious coin chatting away to himself. Also, called it earlier: When you eliminate a source of knowledge…You become an idiot…People behave the same today as they behaved than, strangely every things the same…Actually one of the best arguments against evolution is the fact that we haven't changed…Still full of greed, envy, all of the vices…Behaviors have remain the same.
My road to belief led to the point that god did not exist. If god doesn't exist, nothing matters. Loving, striving, doing the right thing are all purposeless. There is not enough in any one of them to keep going. Also, if god doesn't exist, how did everything come to be? Whatever rationale, god had to have come up with it. Either evolution, the big bang, no matter what, someone had to have designed it.
Otherwise, why bother. Let it all hang out. Anything goes. You only live once.
What does either of these have to do with what characterizes an atheist? Not to mention they're both pretty naive reasons for belief. Also, it always makes me laugh to see you two 'debating' when you're obviously the same person  .  WTF I am on the list?  ?? I just saw my neg rating and im being called zolace??? |
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Quickseller
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October 01, 2014, 07:18:37 PM |
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I have seen zolace and umar "discussing" the topics on many politics and society threads (both with paid sigs). I always thought he was just responding to himself to increase his post count. Maybe he scammed because of the lower income now that PD has closed its campaign and the DB campaign is finished.
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October 01, 2014, 07:19:49 PM |
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Due to the overwhelming amount of information provided here by Staff members, I have removed my post that was supportive of Zolace. I had good interactions with him on IRC, but it appears he has gone the way of the dark side.
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haploid23
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October 01, 2014, 09:10:06 PM |
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How sad zolace, you got called out by a newb, and worst of all you seem to think it's ok to scam because you were mad. Well all your accounts are gone now, do time to get a real job. And you were asking me for a 1btc+ loan |
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October 02, 2014, 01:58:52 AM |
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i can't believe it, Zolace did this.
What a shame you are...
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Vod
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October 02, 2014, 02:04:22 AM |
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Zolace did ask me to remove my negative trust for two weeks so he could pay off his debt. I would give him the benefit of the doubt (as long as he made daily payments) but I'm not the only person who has left him trust. I hope he was truthful when he says he is an honest person, and makes good on his debt even with the trust. That's what an honest person would do. If he does that, I'll remove my trust.  |
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haploid23
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October 02, 2014, 03:47:21 AM |
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Zolace did ask me to remove my negative trust for two weeks so he could pay off his debt.
What does a red profile have to do with the ability to pay off debt? I don't get the connection here. Normally you pay off debt to show good faith, THEN the negative trust gets removed. |
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Quickseller
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October 02, 2014, 03:52:01 AM |
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Zolace did ask me to remove my negative trust for two weeks so he could pay off his debt.
What does a red profile have to do with the ability to pay off debt? I don't get the connection here. Normally you pay off debt to show good faith, THEN the negative trust gets removed. If he can earn money via a signature campaign then he can pay back with those earnings, but if he has red trust then he effectively cannot earn via signature campaigns. The problem is that the BTC was apparently sent to an alt of his so there is no reason why he cannot issue a refund now. I also counted 4 alts of his that should have received payment today from the DB signature campaign so there is even less reason as to why zolace should not be able to refund the OP |
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BadBear
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October 02, 2014, 03:55:11 AM |
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I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt too, but after the way he defended himself using his sockpuppets, used his socks to attempt to discredit the OP, and now his threats via PM to me...it's getting hard.
Also, zolace, you can't bully me. Many have tried and failed.
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blumangroup
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October 02, 2014, 04:24:32 AM |
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I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt too, but after the way he defended himself using his sockpuppets, used his socks to attempt to discredit the OP, and now his threats via PM to me...it's getting hard.
Also, zolace, you can't bully me. Many have tried and failed.
IMO the irony here is that the OP would likely have not given VOD the proof nor would have been able to give proof of the scam if it was not for zolace's sockpuppets. One person legitimately (KWH) suggested the OP post a TXID of the trade in question and several of his sockpuppets chimed in saying that the OP should post this. Zolice was likely betting that the OP did not understand enough about bitcoin to be able to find the TXID (I would speculate that the OP had to learn how to find this after he posted the scam accusation). |
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October 02, 2014, 06:33:46 AM |
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Zolace did ask me to remove my negative trust for two weeks so he could pay off his debt.
Please don't do it before I receive money back. Actually 0.473 BTC is absolutely nothing for me. But I was very surprised how zolace tried to discredit me. Initially I didn't post any proofs here because I couldn't imagine that he don't plead the guilty and will try to blame me! I'm happy to help community to get rid of such persons and alt accounts. One person legitimately (KWH) suggested the OP post a TXID of the trade in question and several of his sockpuppets chimed in saying that the OP should post this. Zolice was likely betting that the OP did not understand enough about bitcoin to be able to find the TXID (I would speculate that the OP had to learn how to find this after he posted the scam accusation).
I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2012. I didn't post many, but read forum a lot. I deeply understand how the network works at all levels. As I said I was surprised that someone can try to cheat 'newbie' such brazen way. |
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October 02, 2014, 08:45:46 AM |
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Looks like zolace deleted this post: I contacted you and try this work this out long ago, but you labeled me scammer the first day of the mistake. No excuse for what I did. I even pm you to work it out that day as well but you did it anyway right? Post all my PMs Tim to show that I wanted to work it out? Timz I remember who you are, you bought from me once I believe if not then your name does sound familiar as I erase most of my messages I cant recall if I sold you before or not. I dont care if im paid for posting or now, Im still gonna keep posting, Its chump change you all can keep your negatives, all you did tim was stopped my one sale at this website, I have other sites I sell from and yes I dont use the same user name so go ahead and try to look for them. by the way most of those accounts up there are not mine, Thank god you didnt get my other 30 accounts I was smart to keep them hidden try harder bear, now Ill go back to posting, see ya |
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hilariousandco
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October 02, 2014, 09:58:43 AM |
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Do you have proof? Those accounts belonged to an account farmer (or at least used to - could be zolace I suppose) but I think the umairsaleem010 one was sold to someone and it got banned for 60 days soon after: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=730320.0@zolace get your spam off my thread.
And im still banned. Also I didnt participate in the same sig campaign.
forsakenpnut is the alt account of umairsaleem010 so the above would suggest it wasn't, unless it was a double bluff. well if you bought an account for sig purposes then your abusing them anyway cause only one person can participate in the sig campaign one time, thus, the op of the sig should be warned
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October 02, 2014, 10:09:57 AM |
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Do you have proof? Those accounts belonged to an account farmer (or at least used to - could be zolace I suppose) but I think the umairsaleem010 one was sold to someone and it got banned for 60 days soon after: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=730320.0@zolace get your spam off my thread.
And im still banned. Also I didnt participate in the same sig campaign.
forsakenpnut is the alt account of umairsaleem010 so the above would suggest it wasn't, unless it was a double bluff. well if you bought an account for sig purposes then your abusing them anyway cause only one person can participate in the sig campaign one time, thus, the op of the sig should be warned
lol. I should have mentioned, umairsaleem010 appears to have been sold to forsakenpnut. I do not think forsakenpnut is zolace, but I am fairly confident that both umairsaleem010 and umair9829 once belonged to zolace. |
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October 02, 2014, 10:11:14 AM |
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Do you have proof? Those accounts belonged to an account farmer (or at least used to - could be zolace I suppose) but I think the umairsaleem010 one was sold to someone and it got banned for 60 days soon after: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=730320.0@zolace get your spam off my thread.
And im still banned. Also I didnt participate in the same sig campaign.
forsakenpnut is the alt account of umairsaleem010 so the above would suggest it wasn't, unless it was a double bluff. well if you bought an account for sig purposes then your abusing them anyway cause only one person can participate in the sig campaign one time, thus, the op of the sig should be warned
lol. lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc. Keep going!!! hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected. some accounts you wont even think there alts of me. Damn time to get to work forgotten password. how much they paying you? Ill give you a clue on 5 on that list is right. most are wrongly accussed, oh wait bad bear is depending on a shared IP right? now I know to becareful with the rest of them. good luck. Ill continue to post to aid my other alt accounts. |
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October 02, 2014, 10:15:51 AM |
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lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc. Keep going!!!
hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected. some accounts you wont even think there alts of me. Damn time to get to work forgotten password. how much they paying you?
Dude, just ignore the comments and pay off your debt as an honest person would. Then you can go on your way and damn whatever people say about you. |
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October 02, 2014, 10:18:42 AM |
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lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc. Keep going!!!
hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected. some accounts you wont even think there alts of me. Damn time to get to work forgotten password. how much they paying you?
Those two accounts were not identified because they have similar names or because they log in at similar times. And I don't care enough to actually go and find your alts and list them out. Why would I waste my time on a bottom-feeder. |
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October 02, 2014, 10:25:06 AM |
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lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc. Keep going!!!
hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected. some accounts you wont even think there alts of me. Damn time to get to work forgotten password. how much they paying you?
Dude, just ignore the comments and pay off your debt as an honest person would. Then you can go on your way and damn whatever people say about you. I agree, I am better then most of the people can say about me. Timz even though you think you know who and I am and saying I have alt accounts, Im still going to give your bitcoins back. I wanted to keep this private fixed between me and you like before but again you pressed to call me a scammer. Still I feel that this went out of hand and once I get those btc, im going to refund you with the address you gave me in private, Thank you vod for your support. |
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October 02, 2014, 01:34:07 PM |
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Do you have proof? Those accounts belonged to an account farmer (or at least used to - could be zolace I suppose) but I think the umairsaleem010 one was sold to someone and it got banned for 60 days soon after: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=730320.0@zolace get your spam off my thread.
And im still banned. Also I didnt participate in the same sig campaign.
forsakenpnut is the alt account of umairsaleem010 so the above would suggest it wasn't, unless it was a double bluff. well if you bought an account for sig purposes then your abusing them anyway cause only one person can participate in the sig campaign one time, thus, the op of the sig should be warned
lol. lol is funny how you guys try to connect me by names and post activity, etc. Keep going!!! hows this I have over 50 alt accounts, via hero accounts, but most you cant proove there connected. some accounts you wont even think there alts of me. Damn time to get to work forgotten password. how much they paying you? Ill give you a clue on 5 on that list is right. most are wrongly accussed, oh wait bad bear is depending on a shared IP right? now I know to becareful with the rest of them. good luck. Ill continue to post to aid my other alt accounts. I hope you realize that you could have sold your account for more then you scammed for, you would just had to wait for good signature campaigns to come around for prices to go up. You said above that you will pay timz back but there is no reason why you would need to wait as you had control of the Btc the entire time. Also are you going to pay back stunna and DB from you scamming them my inflating your post count by responding to your own posts? |
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