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September 29, 2014, 03:04:56 PM
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How can a person go about investing in Coinbase, Circle etc? They are not on the stock market.


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September 29, 2014, 06:24:57 PM
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I guess they had some sort of IPO and now you are out of the possiblity to invest or something.
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If you have a lot of money, contact them directly with a proposal. Anything under $200k they may not listen to you or reply though.

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September 30, 2014, 02:32:43 PM
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I guess we have to wait for some of the early companies to IPO. Smiley


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September 30, 2014, 02:47:32 PM
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It's too hard to get into the bigger ones right now, but you can always invest in the smaller ones.

My current business is funded in pure BTC from outside investors. That's not an invitation / solicitation, and I am not taking any investments at this time, but is just to make the point.

If you want to invest in BTC businesses, you certainly can. Just go find some that you believe in, and make sure you do it all legally, to protect yourself from the feds and from scammers.
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September 30, 2014, 04:04:02 PM
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I guess we have to wait for some of the early companies to IPO. Smiley
But how do we get in? every single IPO in town seems like a scam to me.
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September 30, 2014, 05:40:24 PM
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I guess we have to wait for some of the early companies to IPO. Smiley
But how do we get in? every single IPO in town seems like a scam to me.

Check out the security section on bitcointalk subforum. Lots of bitcoin companies to "invest" in.
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September 30, 2014, 05:59:30 PM
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To be honest, you should be researching what you want to invest in extensively as many of these so called companies seem extremely shady.
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September 30, 2014, 08:32:02 PM
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I was going to invest in Moolah, other than that I haven't seen an IPO for a company that looks half legit. Everyone is trying to get your money for nothing.
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October 01, 2014, 02:11:21 AM
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How can a person go about investing in Coinbase, Circle etc? They are not on the stock market.
You would need to invest in them via VC (venture capital) funds. A VC fund is basically a hedge fund that invests in very new companies. The min to invest in one of these funds (you would not be investing directly in any specific company) would likely be well into 6 figures.

If you wanted to buy equity in one of these firms then you would likely need to invest 7 (but probably Cool figures into a company.

I am not sure if any of these companies are listed here, but you could also buy stock in many non-publicly listed company via second market
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October 01, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
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To be honest, you should be researching what you want to invest in extensively as many of these so called companies seem extremely shady.

Agreed. Some companies think that just because they are associated with bitcoins, people will be ready to invest in them.
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October 01, 2014, 03:23:30 PM
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In the US the companies are generally restricted by law to offer only to accredited investors:

 To qualify as an accredited investor, one must meet one of the three following criteria:
1.Have had an individual annual income of $200,000 for the past two years with an expectation that it will continue
2.Have had a household annual income of $300,000 for the past two years with an expectation that it will continue
3.Have a net worth of at least $1 million, excluding a primary residence

Then you have locate companies that need investors.  try https://angel.co/  and https://www.secondmarket.com/ to start looking.

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October 01, 2014, 05:25:43 PM
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Bitcoin "investments" are in general just scams. Scams or mining "companies" that, when are honest, aren't even profitable. We had an exception with Just Dice, but it was closed because of government interventionism.
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Bitcoin "investments" are in general just scams. Scams or mining "companies" that, when are honest, aren't even profitable. We had an exception with Just Dice, but it was closed because of government interventionism.

Yes, even if they are not scams they are extremely high risk.  You have some real idiot-savants in Bitcoin who know Bitcoin very well but do not have the slightest idea how to run a business or even basic common sense.

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October 01, 2014, 05:46:20 PM
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Investing is a risky business. Always do your homework, don't rush in to decisions and feel confident about your investment before pulling the trigger.
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October 01, 2014, 05:50:17 PM
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Investing is a risky business. Always do your homework, don't rush in to decisions and feel confident about your investment before pulling the trigger.

In the case of bitcoin "investments" it isn't just very risky, but it has a negative expected profit in the majority of cases. So why even risk anything?

Things will change a lot when some serious broker lets people deposit their bitcoins to invest in the real stock market.
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Investing is a risky business. Always do your homework, don't rush in to decisions and feel confident about your investment before pulling the trigger.

In the case of bitcoin "investments" it isn't just very risky, but it has a negative expected profit in the majority of cases. So why even risk anything?

Things will change a lot when some serious broker lets people deposit their bitcoins to invest in the real stock market.

That is what I thought too unless you hit a lucky winner.  Listen to the Bitpay in Dec 2012 talk about the fees and all the pushback from the audience.  It is hard to make a profit in Bitcoin if you just collect fees because everyone expects very low fees.  Bitpay investments probably went well but many other companies probably did not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH4rH6wu25U#t=2008

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October 03, 2014, 07:50:19 AM
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In the US the companies are generally restricted by law to offer only to accredited investors:

 To qualify as an accredited investor, one must meet one of the three following criteria:
1.Have had an individual annual income of $200,000 for the past two years with an expectation that it will continue
2.Have had a household annual income of $300,000 for the past two years with an expectation that it will continue
3.Have a net worth of at least $1 million, excluding a primary residence

Then you have locate companies that need investors.  try https://angel.co/  and https://www.secondmarket.com/ to start looking.

Yes. that is true. Some big names are always on the cover to put a large amount of  VC to some specific bitcoin business. The bitcoin startups are risky investment. The capital invested by them is just small fraction of their possessions. They are afford to lose them.   


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If you are an accredited investor get on a bitcoin angel list syndicate managed by good people. That's prob your best shot at getting exposure.

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Investing is a risky business. Always do your homework, don't rush in to decisions and feel confident about your investment before pulling the trigger.

In the case of bitcoin "investments" it isn't just very risky, but it has a negative expected profit in the majority of cases. So why even risk anything?

Things will change a lot when some serious broker lets people deposit their bitcoins to invest in the real stock market.

That is what I thought too unless you hit a lucky winner.  Listen to the Bitpay in Dec 2012 talk about the fees and all the pushback from the audience.  It is hard to make a profit in Bitcoin if you just collect fees because everyone expects very low fees.  Bitpay investments probably went well but many other companies probably did not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH4rH6wu25U#t=2008
You need to be able to do your due diligence and be able to spot companies that have a high likelihood of being successful. If a company is already successful then it is probably too late to invest in this fashion (unless you think the company will become even more successful)

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