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October 07, 2014, 03:47:03 PM
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It wasn't just that though, was it?

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating

You were quite blatant in what you were attempting to do. As others have said previously, attempting to quickly gain or buy positive trust is something scammers do and the feedback you received is now there as a warning to others who may take any positive feedback you recieve as a mark of being trustworthy when you are clearly not.
i have done nothing wrong, nor am i untrustworthy. i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, so that automatically makes me a scammer, because i seek to have a positive trust on my profile? that doesn't' make any sense. you're just being another faggot ass internet bully, so fuck you.

What you did wrong was attempt to abuse the trust system and cheaply buy yourself some positive trust. How does that establish you as trustworthy? It doesn't. It makes you the exact opposite or at least arouses suspicion. You earn trust by being trustworthy, not trying to buy it. The feedback is completely valid because of this mindset. The fact that you think I'm bullying you for merely stating the truth and then call me a 'faggot ass' is laughable and yet again hypocritical.

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October 07, 2014, 03:50:27 PM
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It wasn't just that though, was it?

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating

You were quite blatant in what you were attempting to do. As others have said previously, attempting to quickly gain or buy positive trust is something scammers do and the feedback you received is now there as a warning to others who may take any positive feedback you recieve as a mark of being trustworthy when you are clearly not.
i have done nothing wrong, nor am i untrustworthy. i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, so that automatically makes me a scammer, because i seek to have a positive trust on my profile? that doesn't' make any sense. you're just being another faggot ass internet bully, so fuck you.

What you did wrong was attempt to abuse the trust system and cheaply buy yourself some positive trust. How does that establish you as trustworthy? It doesn't. It makes you the exact opposite or at least arouses suspicion. You earn trust by being trustworthy, not trying to buy it. The feedback is completely valid because of this mindset. The fact that you think I'm bullying you for merely stating the truth and then call me a 'faggot ass' is laughable and yet again hypocritical.

you are wrong. You are assuming i'm up to no good without giving me a chance to state my case. it is easy to setup on your pedestal and declare everything a scam. Also, you do not know my mindset. you don't know why i want to have a positive trust, and you do not know what my intention is. You are just assuming based on a prior precedence, which is not fair to me. But i concede the point. please show me how i can correct this and establish my reputation in what you deem as being "the right way", since ive broken some infallible sacred law of bitcointalk by attempting to establish a reputation of a trustworthy bitcointalk user. my only intention here is to sell my coding services, but no one will trust someone with zero feedback.

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October 07, 2014, 04:22:29 PM
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Just noticed that some retard left me a negative feedback because i posted the publicly available information about a registered domain's owner.

How the hell some random can leave me such feedback over a post, not even a trade....

Well I cannot even see it.

you're using multiple accounts to post information ?
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October 07, 2014, 04:34:05 PM
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you are wrong. You are assuming i'm up to no good without giving me a chance to state my case. it is easy to setup on your pedestal and declare everything a scam. Also, you do not know my mindset. you don't know why i want to have a positive trust, and you do not know what my intention is. You are just assuming based on a prior precedence, which is not fair to me. But i concede the point. please show me how i can correct this and establish my reputation in what you deem as being "the right way", since ive broken some infallible sacred law of bitcointalk by attempting to establish a reputation of a trustworthy bitcointalk user. my only intention here is to sell my coding services, but no one will trust someone with zero feedback.

I'm not wrong and I'm not assuming you're up to no good. You're probably not, but you are being really naive. I know your mindset because you have stated it several times - you wanted trust to appear trustworthy and that in itself makes any trust you may have recieved worthless. You wanted to buy trust thus making it untrustworthy and essentially fraudulent by your own admission. If you want to gain trust go about it the same way everyone else does: they build it over time via genuine trades, they don't just try quickly buy it for $5. Someone even with 100 positive feedbacks for a 100 $5 Paypal trades wouldn't exactly be 'trusted' either. All that proves is you can be trusted with $5, doesn't mean you want scam as soon as someone sends you $10.

Just noticed that some retard left me a negative feedback because i posted the publicly available information about a registered domain's owner.

How the hell some random can leave me such feedback over a post, not even a trade....


Well I cannot even see it.

you're using multiple accounts to post information ?

It's there if you go his profile.

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October 07, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
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you are wrong. You are assuming i'm up to no good without giving me a chance to state my case. it is easy to setup on your pedestal and declare everything a scam. Also, you do not know my mindset. you don't know why i want to have a positive trust, and you do not know what my intention is. You are just assuming based on a prior precedence, which is not fair to me. But i concede the point. please show me how i can correct this and establish my reputation in what you deem as being "the right way", since ive broken some infallible sacred law of bitcointalk by attempting to establish a reputation of a trustworthy bitcointalk user. my only intention here is to sell my coding services, but no one will trust someone with zero feedback.

I'm not wrong and I'm not assuming you're up to no good. You're probably not, but you are being really naive. I know your mindset because you have stated it several times - you wanted trust to appear trustworthy and that in itself makes any trust you may have recieved worthless. You wanted to buy trust thus making it untrustworthy and essentially fraudulent by your own admission. If you want to gain trust go about it the same way everyone else does: they build it over time via genuine trades, they don't just try quickly buy it for $5.

Just noticed that some retard left me a negative feedback because i posted the publicly available information about a registered domain's owner.

How the hell some random can leave me such feedback over a post, not even a trade....


Well I cannot even see it.

you're using multiple accounts to post information ?

It's there if you go his profile.
once again you are wrong. i sought to make a trade to prove myself trustworthy, not to buy trust. you are just twisting my words to fit your agenda.

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October 07, 2014, 04:42:41 PM
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you are wrong. You are assuming i'm up to no good without giving me a chance to state my case. it is easy to setup on your pedestal and declare everything a scam. Also, you do not know my mindset. you don't know why i want to have a positive trust, and you do not know what my intention is. You are just assuming based on a prior precedence, which is not fair to me. But i concede the point. please show me how i can correct this and establish my reputation in what you deem as being "the right way", since ive broken some infallible sacred law of bitcointalk by attempting to establish a reputation of a trustworthy bitcointalk user. my only intention here is to sell my coding services, but no one will trust someone with zero feedback.

I'm not wrong and I'm not assuming you're up to no good. You're probably not, but you are being really naive. I know your mindset because you have stated it several times - you wanted trust to appear trustworthy and that in itself makes any trust you may have recieved worthless. You wanted to buy trust thus making it untrustworthy and essentially fraudulent by your own admission. If you want to gain trust go about it the same way everyone else does: they build it over time via genuine trades, they don't just try quickly buy it for $5.

Just noticed that some retard left me a negative feedback because i posted the publicly available information about a registered domain's owner.

How the hell some random can leave me such feedback over a post, not even a trade....


Well I cannot even see it.

you're using multiple accounts to post information ?

It's there if you go his profile.
once again you are wrong. i sought to make a trade to prove myself trustworthy, not to buy trust. you are just twisting my words to fit your agenda.

Making a trade to prove yourself trustworthy is buying trust.
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October 07, 2014, 04:44:01 PM
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once again you are wrong. i sought to make a trade to prove myself trustworthy, not to buy trust. you are just twisting my words to fit your agenda.

Dude, seriously, how are you not getting this? I'm not twisting your words because you stated exactly why you wanted the feedback for several times. How the hell does making a $5 trade make you trustworthy? It doesn't. It means you traded $5. You specifically wanted to trade with trusted hero members and nobody else, thus you wanted 'green' reputable feedback for your five dollars aka you were trying to buy feedback and trust quickly and at minimal cost.

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October 07, 2014, 04:48:40 PM
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once again you are wrong. i sought to make a trade to prove myself trustworthy, not to buy trust. you are just twisting my words to fit your agenda.

Dude, seriously, how are you not getting this? I'm not twisting your words because you stated exactly why you wanted the feedback for several times. How the hell does making a $5 trade make you trustworthy? It doesn't. It means you traded $5. You specifically wanted to trade with trusted hero members and nobody else, thus you wanted 'green' reputable feedback for your five dollars aka you were trying to buy feedback and trust quickly and at minimal cost.

i wanted trusted hero members because they are the most reputable, and it limits my risk of being scammed. actually, i wanted the btc legitimately too, but for fucks sakes, whatever you say. i'm done arguing. you fucking win, ok?

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October 07, 2014, 05:05:04 PM
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once again you are wrong. i sought to make a trade to prove myself trustworthy, not to buy trust. you are just twisting my words to fit your agenda.

Dude, seriously, how are you not getting this? I'm not twisting your words because you stated exactly why you wanted the feedback for several times. How the hell does making a $5 trade make you trustworthy? It doesn't. It means you traded $5. You specifically wanted to trade with trusted hero members and nobody else, thus you wanted 'green' reputable feedback for your five dollars aka you were trying to buy feedback and trust quickly and at minimal cost.

i wanted trusted hero members because they are the most reputable, and it limits my risk of being scammed. actually, i wanted the btc legitimately too, but for fucks sakes, whatever you say. i'm done arguing. you fucking win, ok?

But you're still not getting it. This isn't about winning an argument but making you see where you went wrong and why having feedback doesn't make you reputable or trustworthy. Doing deals with reputable members merely for their trust does not make you reputable or trustworthy, especially when this is all you wanted their feedback for. If you had've got a few green trust from Hero members would that then make you more reputable or trustworthy than me for example (who currently has zero 'green' feedback)? No. If I went and got 5 green trust feedbacks right now from five different members for buying $1 worth of PayPal would that make me very trustable? No. The argument and logic here is simple regardless of whether you are a genuine person or not, you just went about getting feedback the very wrong way and it backfired.

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October 07, 2014, 05:12:42 PM
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once again you are wrong. i sought to make a trade to prove myself trustworthy, not to buy trust. you are just twisting my words to fit your agenda.

Dude, seriously, how are you not getting this? I'm not twisting your words because you stated exactly why you wanted the feedback for several times. How the hell does making a $5 trade make you trustworthy? It doesn't. It means you traded $5. You specifically wanted to trade with trusted hero members and nobody else, thus you wanted 'green' reputable feedback for your five dollars aka you were trying to buy feedback and trust quickly and at minimal cost.

i wanted trusted hero members because they are the most reputable, and it limits my risk of being scammed. actually, i wanted the btc legitimately too, but for fucks sakes, whatever you say. i'm done arguing. you fucking win, ok?

But you're still not getting it. This isn't about winning an argument but making you see where you went wrong and why having feedback doesn't make you reputable or trustworthy. Doing deals with reputable members merely for their trust does not make you reputable or trustworthy, especially when this is all you wanted their feedback for. If you had've got a few green trust from Hero members would that then make you more reputable or trustworthy than me for example (who currently has zero 'green' feedback)? No. If I went and got 5 green trust feedbacks right now from five different members for buying $1 worth of PayPal would that make me very trustable? No. The argument and logic here is simple regardless of whether you are a genuine person or not, you just went about getting feedback the very wrong way and it backfired.

Yeah, the logic is simple and flawed. i did nothing wrong, and thats all there is to it. i stated my intentions transparently. Judas of Iscariot ass nigga

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October 07, 2014, 05:36:27 PM
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Yeah, the logic is simple and flawed. i did nothing wrong, and thats all there is to it. i stated my intentions transparently. Judas of Iscariot ass nigga.

Lol. Where is my thirty pieces of silver? You doing nothing wrong is arguable. What you did wrong has been established: you tried to cheaply buy feedback to bolster your rep and some people see this behaviour as making you untrustworthy and warranting a warning via the feedback system. You must realise what you did wrong because it's in your own logic. You wanted that feedback to appear trustworthy, but any feedback you may have received this way wouldn't have made you trustworthy at all because of the very fact that you just bought it for $5 so people were warning others of that because they see it as unscrupulous or untrustworthy behaviour.

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October 07, 2014, 05:47:50 PM
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Yeah, the logic is simple and flawed. i did nothing wrong, and thats all there is to it. i stated my intentions transparently. Judas of Iscariot ass nigga.

Lol. Where is my thirty pieces of silver? You doing nothing wrong is arguable. What you did wrong has been established: you tried to cheaply buy feedback to bolster your rep and some people see this behaviour as making you untrustworthy and warranting a warning via the feedback system. You must realise what you did wrong because it's in your own logic. You wanted that feedback to appear trustworthy, but any feedback you may have received this way wouldn't have made you trustworthy at all because of the very fact that you just bought it for $5 so people were warning others of that because they see it as unscrupulous or untrustworthy behaviour.

I disagree.

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October 07, 2014, 06:04:51 PM
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You disagree with what exactly (not that it really matters at this point)?

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October 07, 2014, 06:08:01 PM
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You disagree with what exactly (not that it really matters at this point)?

I don't think it was untrustworthy. not when i offered to wait months until the coin is sent. i fucked up, i know it. i just want to be trusted damn fuck leave me alone

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October 07, 2014, 06:23:05 PM
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Attempting to gain trust quickly so you can appear trusted or trustworthy whether you want to admit it or not makes you untrustworthy. People aren't saying you attempted to gain the feedback for untrustworthy or scammy reasons but the way you went about it makes you seem untrustworthy and is the common behaviour a lot of scammers employ. If you want people to leave you alone I suggest you just drop it and the matter will soon be forgotten.

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October 08, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
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Does anyone know if the trust system will function in the same way in the new forum software?

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October 08, 2014, 02:01:03 PM
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Does anyone know if the trust system will function in the same way in the new forum software?

All the current features of this forum are going to be carried over to the new one, so probably yes. I haven't read anything about a new or revised system.

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October 08, 2014, 04:54:04 PM
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Does anyone know if the trust system will function in the same way in the new forum software?

All the current features of this forum are going to be carried over to the new one, so probably yes. I haven't read anything about a new or revised system.

I remember a discussion arising about it last july when i joined up here. I think one poster had requested a revision to the trust system. I'm pretty sure theymos shot it down, but can't remember. there's a thread where its discussed somewhere.

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