Casascius 10BTC Silver Round /w Gold B

[zanzibar]

It's a nice coin, but I think there are issues with physical crypto coins in general.  The only way I could possibly make $ off of this coin is if the price of Bitcoin were to decrease significantly, I sell it (at basically a loss), collect say my 25 BTC, then the price of Bitcoin increases beyond the rate at which I bought this coin.  On the flip side, if the price of Bitcoin increases immensely, then I've just lost out on the price increase of the 10 extra BTC I sent you, plus no one will buy it now for 20BTC because of the higher value of BTC.   That is probably why you can't sell it for 20BTC.

Your opinion will change in a few years.

Don't forget about collector value.  These coins don't exist anymore. BTC is still in its infancy.

As Allen Greenspan once said: Revolutions are something you see only in retrospect.

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I invested in AAPL 8 years ago and it has come a very long way. My BTC investment is about 2 years old. We'll see what happens in the next 6. I believe in it.

I absolutely agree that Bitcoin will be successful, don't get me wrong, it's just a matter of perception and relation to Fiat value. 

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[Blazed]

I think USD does directly effect the premiums on these coins. The silver + gold singles easily go for 2-3 x face value when graded. It seems the higher the face value the less the premium on most coins (the 25's do not even fetch 30). This coin is special though, so it is hard to put an exact premium on it.

[Blazed]

My offer still stands 

[LitcoinCollector]

I realy is a beautifull coin! 

[bitmarket.io]

these coins will be worth a fortune one day and this one is the most gorgeous.

[Michail1]

I offer 16.5 or $4500

[Michail1]

And the idiot scammer tries with another new account....

I offer 16.5 or $4500

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813238.20

Hi,

Was hoping for hell of a lot more than 16.5BTC for this coin but at this moment in time the physical coin market seems quite slow so my loss is your gain.

Total inc. shipping is 16.5BTC

Payment address : 1BbzqWTrPNA6ece4sn3HmcvrERv1BcFRTJ

After payment drop me a pm with the transaction I.D and shipping info.

Coin will shipped fully insured and tracked within 1 working day.

Sad to see this special coin go at the price but needs must unfortunately

Thanks,

bitmarket.io

[Taras]

And the idiot scammer tries with another new account....

I offer 16.5 or $4500

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813238.20

Hi,

Was hoping for hell of a lot more than 16.5BTC for this coin but at this moment in time the physical coin market seems quite slow so my loss is your gain.

Total inc. shipping is 16.5BTC

Payment address : 1BbzqWTrPNA6ece4sn3HmcvrERv1BcFRTJ

After payment drop me a pm with the transaction I.D and shipping info.

Coin will shipped fully insured and tracked within 1 working day.

Sad to see this special coin go at the price but needs must unfortunately

Thanks,

bitmarket.io

This is a bit depressing. Someone out there is trying to get things, and knowingly causing other people to lose things as a result.

Whoever the scammer is, this is for you.

[Michail1]

This is a bit depressing. Someone out there is trying to get things, and knowingly causing other people to lose things as a result.

Whoever the scammer is, this is for you.

Ok, I have to admit.  I did look at the photo.   You're way too nice.
I got something far better for the idiot scammer.

To his/her defense, bitcointalk makes it FAR too easy to scam people by allowing such nicks to exist (with special characters).  ` and ' and . shouldn't even be allowed as part of the username.  And, once it is obvious as it is, the scammer/squatter nick should simply be blocked from use.

[bitmarket.io]

So sad. someone makes an offer and the scammers spring in action. fortunately the people making offers are no idiots.

[hedgy73]

To his/her defense, bitcointalk makes it FAR too easy to scam people by allowing such nicks to exist (with special characters).  ` and ' and . shouldn't even be allowed as part of the username.  And, once it is obvious as it is, the scammer/squatter nick should simply be blocked from use.

Agree 100%.

[SaltySpitoon]

To his/her defense, bitcointalk makes it FAR too easy to scam people by allowing such nicks to exist (with special characters).  ` and ' and . shouldn't even be allowed as part of the username.  And, once it is obvious as it is, the scammer/squatter nick should simply be blocked from use.

Agree 100%.

A lot of times they are banned. Just nuked the person in question. People who create accounts to scam by pretending to be another user are by extention PM spamming people, so even though moderators don't remove scams/scammers, oftentimes there is enough overlap that we can deal with them.

Sorry to interupt your sales thread, but report any other fake bitmarket.io accounts

[nubbins]

To his/her defense, bitcointalk makes it FAR too easy to scam people by allowing such nicks to exist (with special characters).  ` and ' and . shouldn't even be allowed as part of the username.  And, once it is obvious as it is, the scammer/squatter nick should simply be blocked from use.

Agree 100%.

To be honest, I/l and O/0 are way more of a problem. If you don't notice a ` at the end of someone's nick (true sign of a scammer, hey Michail? ), there's no amount of rules gonna help you.

Probably a good idea to start pgp-signing all OPs in marketplace threads.

[Blazed]

To his/her defense, bitcointalk makes it FAR too easy to scam people by allowing such nicks to exist (with special characters).  ` and ' and . shouldn't even be allowed as part of the username.  And, once it is obvious as it is, the scammer/squatter nick should simply be blocked from use.

Agree 100%.

To be honest, I/l and O/0 are way more of a problem. If you don't notice a ` at the end of someone's nick (true sign of a scammer, hey Michail? ), there's no amount of rules gonna help you.

Probably a good idea to start pgp-signing all OPs in marketplace threads.

PGP will not help any more than posting a btc address does. The issue is sloppy buyers, and no matter how much you try and help it is still on them to pay attention.

[nubbins]

Too true -- the root of the problem is personal responsibility.

That said, the more I can encourage the use of PGP, the better!

[Blazed]

Too true -- the root of the problem is personal responsibility.

That said, the more I can encourage the use of PGP, the better!

I agree it is a great way of being safe and secure!

[ezeminer]

Too true -- the root of the problem is personal responsibility.

That said, the more I can encourage the use of PGP, the better!

Maybe bold red messages saying "check that I am the real *user*, if you are PM'd"

[nubbins]

Too true -- the root of the problem is personal responsibility.

That said, the more I can encourage the use of PGP, the better!

Maybe bold red messages saying "check that I am the real *user*, if you are PM'd"

Plenty of threads with bold red "THIS IS THE ONLY PAYMENT ADDRESS" in the OP -- would be curious to know how many of those get targeted for scams.

[ezeminer]

Too true -- the root of the problem is personal responsibility.

That said, the more I can encourage the use of PGP, the better!

Maybe bold red messages saying "check that I am the real *user*, if you are PM'd"

Plenty of threads with bold red "THIS IS THE ONLY PAYMENT ADDRESS" in the OP -- would be curious to know how many of those get targeted for scams.

I had a smoothie impersonator try to get me when I saw something was fishy. one he didn't have the proper signature, two he tried collecting money before the auction was over and three the address didn't match...
I find it funny that people try to scam, but also sad that there is such a large scam-account base.

[Michail1]

Plenty of threads with bold red "THIS IS THE ONLY PAYMENT ADDRESS" in the OP -- would be curious to know how many of those get targeted for scams.

I think this is the best/easiest way to stop scammers.
Any idiot paying another address than listed clearly in bright red and the first line of an OP deserves to be scammed.

The potential buyer must realize you have an auction simply by the fact he got to the first post of a thread.   So, ummm, can't say he didn't know the payment address didn't match, even if the nick, PM, yada yada don't match.