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September 17, 2012, 09:52:58 PM
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The domain mybitcointrade.com and the code has been sold to Viktor (Skype: viktor.nachajew ).
The transfer of the domain is still in progress, until this is finished, the page will stay in mainteance.
Account-data for the forum has been sold too (this is my personal last post).
The old team of mybitcointrade wasn't able to keep the project running under this circumstances (loosing users, bad reputation, etc.).
We're not very happy to do this step, but that many withdrawals in the last time and the replies in the forum didn't give us the power and the engagement to work on.


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September 17, 2012, 09:57:29 PM
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do we loose our bitcoin on the bankbooks?
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September 17, 2012, 09:59:38 PM
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The domain mybitcointrade.com and the code has been sold to Viktor (Skype: viktor.nachajew ).
The transfer of the domain is still in progress, until this is finished, the page will stay in mainteance.
Account-data for the forum has been sold too (this is my personal last post).
I didn't know you could sell a debt. That's awesome. Maybe I can find some homeless guy who will buy my $15,000 in credit card debt for a beer. Then when the bank asks me where my payment is, I'll say, "Sorry, I sold all my debt to some homeless guy. Maybe he will pay you back."

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September 17, 2012, 10:03:51 PM
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The bankbooks and the saving options remain the same.
Page should be back in the next days.

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September 17, 2012, 10:30:17 PM
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Saw some interesting stuff in the german forum. My german isnt quite up to snuff, so someone correct me if Im wrong, but if you look in this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78684.0

You will see ziggy uses/used "toteviper" as Skypename. The same skypename also appears in this old thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37782.0;all

Where someone claims to be scammed by "OPSCHINKEN/stammed/Viper/Skype:Toteviper" over a videocard.

It gets better; If I understood correctly, later the alleged wife of OPSCHINKEN (ie, Ziggy) comes to the forum posting  with the name "Deadly":
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37782.msg465942#msg465942

Claiming her husband, ie Ziggy :drumroll:


died.


Yep, and his wife registered the next day with the name "deadly". Sounds legit. So Ziggy is dead. He died last year Smiley.  

Good luck to everyone who invested in this scam. Your coins should be safe, Patrick triple A rated it.



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September 17, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
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your "translation" of the german board is right Cheesy

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September 17, 2012, 10:47:28 PM
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your "translation" of the german board is right Cheesy

Thanks for confirming!
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September 18, 2012, 07:42:06 AM
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If anyone wonders why he suddenly "sold" the site to "viktor nachajew " (someone completely unknown to google and with a blank Skype profile), its rather obvious his ponzi was collapsing and he will try to shift blame for the payouts that arent going to happen to this viktor guy.

I did a little more digging for those that cant read german.

The skypename pretty much proves Ziggy == Opschinken.
Opshinken is also known as Slammed (aka Viper aka Crazy and safe to assume, aka his own widow, Deadly):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27585.msg354016#msg354016

Slammed has a scammer tag.

Contact info from mybitcointrade  saved here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37320.msg1198577#msg1198577

Rene Engfer.
Wakendorferstr. 36
24211 Preetz, SH Germany
Mobil : 015144549378

That contact info may of course be completely fictitious (though AFAIK, under German law that by itself would be illegal).  If so, to find his actual address, Xer0 might have it, though its a long time ago, he sent him a PCIe cable:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25213.msg322447#msg322447


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September 18, 2012, 09:35:09 AM
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LKTechnik should also have the correct address, he was/is the hoster from mybitcointrade.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37320.msg1198736#msg1198736

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September 18, 2012, 08:37:21 PM
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Site is back this weekend
sry for problems, more infos to come

sry for bad english customers, but please do not worry

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September 19, 2012, 03:48:13 AM
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Site is back this weekend
sry for problems, more infos to come

sry for bad english customers, but please do not worry

viktor
Do not worry?
I tried to withdraw several days ago. It got delayed and delayed. And suddenly the site is sold.....

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September 19, 2012, 06:36:22 AM
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Site is back this weekend
sry for problems, more infos to come

sry for bad english customers, but please do not worry

viktor
Could you please accept my skype invite or give me a email that I can send a email to?
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September 19, 2012, 07:33:21 AM
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Admins pleas check IP. Is it really different region/provider ... Or same person?
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September 19, 2012, 08:25:10 AM
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Wow, didnt take this one long to fold.


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September 19, 2012, 09:52:44 AM
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Site is back this weekend
sry for problems, more infos to come

sry for bad english customers, but please do not worry

viktor

lolz.  

As each Ponzi falls, the end-stall gets better and better.  Wouldn't shock me if some of these were done by the same guy.

Shout to Puppet +1 on basically everything you said / huge research.  

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September 19, 2012, 09:55:45 AM
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Site is back this weekend
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viktor

lolz.  

As each Ponzi falls, the end-stall gets better and better.  Wouldn't shock me if some of these were done by the same guy.

Shout to Puppet +1 on basically everything you said / huge research.  

None of them have used the "my wallet was hacked" excuse yet.

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September 19, 2012, 12:16:19 PM
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I wasnt worried while I thought this biz was in GER / CH hands and running for more than a year. Not even when I read about "delays" in the payment. But now ... how are we not supposed to be worried. An anonymous "Russian" (This is no racism, but Russians have not the best reputation) jumps in after 4 days and "buys" the site. Even if the rest of the story is true, so no ponzi / no payment problems just mtgox limits ... selling your customers to a Russian after 4 days is betrayal on your customer base. If this thing doesnt work out you can be sure to get sued...


Whois mybitcointrade.com

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ISP:                     InterNetworX Ltd. & Co. KG
URL:                     www.inwx.de

domain:                  mybitcointrade.com

created-date:            2012-07-22
updated-date:            2012-09-17
expiration-date:         2013-09-10

owner-id:                90537
owner-name:              Rene Engfer
owner-street:            Wakendorferstr 36
owner-city:              Preetz
owner-zip:               24211
owner-country:           DE
owner-phone:             +49.15144549378
owner-email:             admin@mybitcointrade.com

admin-id:                90537
admin-name:              Rene Engfer
admin-street:            Wakendorferstr 36
admin-city:              Preetz
admin-zip:               24211
admin-country:           DE
admin-phone:             +49.15144549378
admin-email:             admin@mybitcointrade.com

tech-id:                 66800
tech-name:               Joel Kuder
tech-street:             Bodenmattstrasse 23
tech-city:               Reinach
tech-zip:                4153
tech-country:            CH
tech-phone:              +41.797302094
tech-email:              support@paid-4.ch

billing-id:              66800
billing-name:            Joel Kuder
billing-street:          Bodenmattstrasse 23
billing-city:            Reinach
billing-zip:             4153
billing-country:         CH
billing-phone:           +41.797302094
billing-email:           support@paid-4.ch

nameserver:              ns1.cyon.ch
nameserver:              ns2.cyon.ch

whois paid-4.ch

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Domain name:
paid-4.ch

Holder of domain name:
Kuder Joel
Bodenmattstrasse 23
CH-4153 Reinach BL
Switzerland
Contractual Language: German

Technical contact:
Kuder Joel
Bodenmattstrasse 23
CH-4153 Reinach BL
Switzerland

DNSSEC:N

Name servers:
ns1.cyon.ch        [194.126.200.5]
ns2.cyon.ch        [82.197.166.234]

According to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=11432.0;all

paypal of Rene Engfer ebayerschinken@yahoo.de
Joel Kuderer http://www.lktechnik.ch/impressum

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        Joel Kuder
        Bodenmattstrasse 23
        4153 Reinach BL CH

    Telefon
        +41 79 730 20 94

    Elektronisch
        Mail: support@paid-4.ch
        Skype: Lokutos.ch
        klamm.de: 298414/Lokutos

Hotline LKTechnik

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Hotline
Telefon-Kantakt 079 730 20 94
oder +41 (0)79 730 20 94

Joel Kuderer Twitter: http://twitter.com/LKTechnik

Pictures of Joel Kuderer:
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Joel Kuderer Facebook http://www.facebook.com/joel.kuder

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Arbeit und Ausbildung //Work and education

    WMC IT Solutions AG
    Network Engineer · November 2011 bis heute · Basilea, Basel-Stadt, Switzerland

    LKTechnik
    Inhaber und Geschäftsführer · 1. Januar 2010 bis heute · Basilea, Basel-Stadt, Switzerland
    CEO

    Berufschule
    Abschlussklasse 2010 · Dachau

    Fiechten
    Abschlussklasse 2006 · Basel

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    Wohnt in Basel
    Spricht Deutsch, Englisch
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2011
    Hat begonnen bei WMC IT Solutions AG zu arbeiten

2010
    Hat begonnen bei LKTechnik zu arbeiten
    Hat einen Hochschulabschluss von Berufschule

2006
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designerscripte.net Rene Engfer, offline now with the same error message:

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https://designerscripte.net/index.php?content=/intern/impressum
Impressum von Bitcoin Börse.

Rene Engfer.
Tel:015144549378
Wakendorferstr.36
24211 Preetz, SH
Germany
Betreiber: admin [~at~] mybitcointrade.com

snippis.de Rene Engfer, offline now with the same error message:

Code:
https://snippis.de/index.php?content=/intern/impressum
Impressum von Bitcoin Börse.
Rene Engfer
Holstenweg 13b
24211 Preetz, SH
Germany
Betreiber: admin [~at~] mybitcointrade.com
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September 20, 2012, 07:50:00 AM
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If this thing doesnt work out you can be sure to get sued...
Best of luck suing them. As I've pointed out over and over until I'm blue in the face, they never claimed your investment couldn't become worthless overnight simply because they decided to drop its value to zero. This is a Stock Generation style scam where the value of your investment is purely up to their whim. They raise the price arbitrarily to induce you to keep investing and reserve the right to reduce the price to zero any time they choose and keep all your money. This is what they *say* they'll do. And you guys still give them your money.

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September 20, 2012, 08:18:24 AM
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If this thing doesnt work out you can be sure to get sued...
Best of luck suing them. As I've pointed out over and over until I'm blue in the face, they never claimed your investment couldn't become worthless overnight simply because they decided to drop its value to zero.

This isnt true for all their "projects". Read the first post, their so called bankbook was guaranteed. Most of the other projects have buyback guarantees. Of course, at much lower than face value so investors can still expect to lose most of their investment, but they should get  back more than zero.
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September 20, 2012, 08:23:39 AM
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No !
Do you refer to savings - books, when speaking of stockgeneration?
Do you talk about freezers, when you mean canalisation ?
Did you only one time in your live take responsiblity or consequences, when having given wrong advice, because of your limited ability to percieve facts??
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