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January 02, 2016, 10:19:13 PM
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They don't care until they do care. if You are raking in $50K a month I guarantee you they will care. Stay off the radar, don't attach your name to a damn thing and they will not bother you b/c they can't confirm you are a US citizen. Make a half ass attempt to bar US players to placate them and you should be ok, at least for 3+ years.

Pay you gambling taxes winnings and you should be fine. at the end of the day that govt is on no moral crusade, they just want their taxes.
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January 02, 2016, 10:32:23 PM
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thats strange that moneypot had to move its website from one service provider to another, technically they are not a gambling website they just let other people create gambling websites there
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January 02, 2016, 11:17:41 PM
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The California attorney sent a letter coming after someone bc one of the ip's trace to SF. Epic fail right there. Now this guy is in the dreaded legal crosshairs. He's screwed for lack of better word.

Stay off ANY server located in north america and only go to Euro countries that are neutral , not in the EU / Nato. Switzerland is the perfect spot. Nobody will ever fuck with those guys, never have, never will.
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January 03, 2016, 01:13:07 AM
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yah some country dont allow hosting of gambling site or anything related to digital currency. so if you need, you must check which country support and you can carry on from there. otherwise you may need to close down or even get into courts.
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March 10, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
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I am bumping this thread up.

@cloverme: What makes you concerned about VPS services in regards to privacy? One thing I am actually wondering about is if a cloud-based setup would be somewhat risky because the site is mirrored on servers in various countries/ jurisdictions.

@auswalk: Switzerland just recently announced to ban online gambling related websites. I am not sure if this is a good place to host online gambling related websites anymore. As far as the EU is concerned, I believe the Netherlands might be a good choice. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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March 11, 2017, 01:47:40 AM
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I am bumping this thread up.

@cloverme: What makes you concerned about VPS services in regards to privacy? One thing I am actually wondering about is if a cloud-based setup would be somewhat risky because the site is mirrored on servers in various countries/ jurisdictions.


Sure, so in regards to VPS and privacy, it all boils down to ownership of the virtual server. Unless you go through a lot of due diligence for encryption at rest and in transit, including configuration through a secure encrypted shell to ensure that the host isn't snooping on your sessions, then I would consider using a VPS for managing cryptocurrency to be very risky. You have to remember that most system administrators take short cuts to get their systems online as fast as possible, especially with lamp stacks, so these shortcuts may lead to openings. Known vulnerabilities or malicious ones might be hiding in the images that the VPS was deployed from, so there might be a backdoor there waiting. It may not even be on the virtual guest end but on the physical host end as well. Low end service providers offering virtual servers might be compromised through system administration weaknesses on the host provider side. As an example, host management may not be secured to specific workstations and those workstations may not be a rigorously managed as one might think. As consumers, we're often led to believe that extensive security is in place because the word "secure" and graphic of a lock is in place when you're shopping for your VPS. However, the system admin staff might be accessing the systems from their home computers or the host systems might even be running from home-built datacenter in a shed or basement. Granted, these types of situation would be with smaller niche VPS providers. The popular hosting tiers 1-3 take due diligence a little more seriously, but you should still be wary. Anything online and in someone else's building is out of your control.

That being said, you should look for the following services as a customer to help mitigate your risk as compensating controls:
1) Two factor authentication. You should not be able to administer your VPS via web-console without providing two-factor authentication.
2) You should be able to restrict access to your VPS through a managed firewall outside of your VPS (not using the virtual guest OS as a firewall)
3) You want to make sure that no one can compromise your email account, reset your hosting password, get access to the VPS console, and steal your data. Lock down your own email account, move to a provider that offers secure encrypted email with multifactor authentication.
4) Add notes (if possible) to your VPS account telling them not to reset any passwords over the phone. Email the admins and ask them how to secure your account against identify theft to access your account. If they don't know, move to somewhere else.

If you're going to be managing large amounts of cryptocurrency on a VPS, you should consider doing the following:
1) Encrypt the entire file system of your virtual guest to a cipher that is supported under FIPS 140-2 (AES256 as an example)
2) Use SSH with a private key to access your system remotely.
3) Close all open ports inbound and outbound, only open ports to specific hosts by direct ip addresses. (for SSH restrict the local ip of your VPS to your wan ip/firewall)
3a) Don't access your system from any unknown networks like from a starbucks or your friends house.
4) Change all the passwords and don't use root/administrator for logins.
5) Turn on logging and limit unsuccessful logon attempts.
6) Qualys scan your VPS before putting any cryptocurrency on there at all, you want to patch and remediate any serious risk.
7) When taking backups, make sure your backups are encrypted as well to the FIPS 140-2 standard ciphers.
8.) Protect your own workstations, if possible, use a dedicated system that you don't use daily if you manage your VPS. Keep it updated, offline when not in use, and encrypted.
9) Protect all your strong passwords (recommend you use passphrases) and secure them in an encrypted vault that you keep offline.

While not in-expensive, the major hosts (aws, azure, etc) offer high-end cyber-security which is typically reserved for unclassified technical information using high standards to manage and monitor the infrastructure. You would use this type of infrastructure to manage large amounts of cryptocurrency to ensure the host has extra taken steps around due diligence to manage systems and access. This will be branded under ISO 27001 or NIST 800-53 and typically not available without exchanging emails or phone calls with them, it's not going to be a "next, next, buy" option.


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March 11, 2017, 06:52:28 AM
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U may like to use http ://BestHostFree.com VPS for hosting gambling sites. Website Hosting services. Try them out. Sign up with Gambling Site Hosting. A point and click web hosting CP.
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March 12, 2017, 07:38:06 PM
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@cloverme: Thanks a ton for your very detailed input! That is a lot more than I was expecting. There are many excellent points that I will consider when choosing my host.

Running a dedicated server is most certainly the safest option, but unless a person is hosting it themselves, there will be people who need to be trusted as well.

Kudos to you!





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March 12, 2017, 08:21:35 PM
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I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license).

What other sites are using to host their services?

Probably any off shore webhost. Only usa really cares about internet gambling. Usa gov wants to keep gambling profit for themselves.  Sad
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March 12, 2017, 09:16:18 PM
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@0xfff Only USA? I believe you have not looked at the online gambling laws abroad. There are different laws and restrictions in each country.
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March 12, 2017, 09:27:39 PM
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@0xfff Only USA? I believe you have not looked at the online gambling laws abroad. There are different laws and restrictions in each country.

Are there any that are more strict that USA?
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March 12, 2017, 09:59:19 PM
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France, Italy, Russia, China, UK, Portugal, Denmark and many other countries all have very strict laws against online gambling. Some of them block domains and financial transactions just like the U.S.
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March 13, 2017, 02:36:30 AM
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I don't think any of the cheap gaming license countries really have the net infrastructure to do casino hosting in volume
What are the cheap gaming license countries?

Question is if it is required by the license to have the gaming server within the licensing country?

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March 13, 2017, 10:59:16 AM
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@game-protect: It is usually the countries where the bananas grow. Particularly, Costa Rica, Curacao or Panama. These countries do not have a good hosting infrastructure though and are far away from the main markets. For this reason Switzerland or the Netherlands would be a good solution. Perhaps also other European/ Eastern European countries, but I am not aware of a particular one that would be suitable for hosting online gambling related websites.
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March 13, 2017, 02:32:39 PM
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France, Italy, Russia, China, UK, Portugal, Denmark and many other countries all have very strict laws against online gambling. Some of them block domains and financial transactions just like the U.S.
Yes but in all countries, we can access online gambling, especially in China and UK. and if you are looking for strict less countries means you can try in Asian countries. They don't have many restrictions against online gambling. The countries are Sri Lanka, India, Bangladesh, etc. here the governament will not put many restrictions on online gambling. I heard that in India they allowed A Rummy game site to make business legally in india. That site is paying tax to government.
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March 13, 2017, 08:49:35 PM
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@roadbits: Yes, anyone can play unregistered online casinos in any country, but that is a different subject. What I am trying to find is a suitable country to host a gambling affiliate website.
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March 13, 2017, 09:08:30 PM
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I tend to use expensive or private hosting for diverse content properties or those with functions in which users interact across databases with extensive data amounts. For the most part the casino industry takes lots of bandwidth so the use of full servers instead of shared plans may be more suitable.

In almost all cases with lots of traffic the hosting provider may force upgrades, so my strong suggestion would be to just set it up at the beginning.

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March 13, 2017, 11:48:42 PM
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It's a profitable business to host own gambling website, because people used to invest into gambling websites for profit. For the same with the investment they made if they start a gambling site sure based on the features will get benefited. Because bitcoin is getting turned to be the only possibility to gamble in future.

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March 14, 2017, 04:35:16 AM
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@game-protect: It is usually the countries where the bananas grow. Particularly, Costa Rica, Curacao or Panama. These countries do not have a good hosting infrastructure though and are far away from the main markets. For this reason Switzerland or the Netherlands would be a good solution. Perhaps also other European/ Eastern European countries, but I am not aware of a particular one that would be suitable for hosting online gambling related websites.
1) Curacao has a very good hosting infrastructure.

2) The Netherlands has a regulated gambling market

3) Costa Rica might have a bad infrastructur but license cost only $3,500 per year?
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March 14, 2017, 07:30:44 AM
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I would prefer big companies like Amazon but certainly will check out!
Amazon is a big company and actually renting their cloud would cost high and they would ask you to provide proper documents about your casino which you might not be able to provide given you have a bitcoin casino. I guess sites can be hosted on hundreds of providers and actually Moneypot is a enormous site under which a lot of sites run and hence they decided to switch knowing the terms of heroku.

will take a look at the list of potential other hosting services
If your host is safe enough than there is no need to go for big names, being safe is the biggest priority apart from host being online all the time. Just google and find the one that suits your needs beyond the suggested services.

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